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JayYoon 03-27-2011 09:30 PM

Shift Knob
 
So hopefully we all know that our shift knob kinda vibrates when we are driving. I heard from a friend that your not suppose to hold on to shift knobs that are vibrating or shaking. Now anyone got any opinions on this?

wdkwang 03-28-2011 12:17 AM

:confused:

Corona370z 03-28-2011 01:01 AM

Mine doesn't really vibrate or at least I don't notice it vibrating. So what's the reasoning on not touching the shift knob if it's vibrating?

djpathfinder 03-28-2011 01:11 AM

Cuz, both hands are supposed to be on the wheel when driving?

The shifter shakes at or close to the clutch point, especially when it's about to stall or when the shift isn't smooth...don't get me wrong, I'm not saying anything about your driving, it's just an observation. But touching the shifter during a shake won't change anything.

SkyZ 03-28-2011 01:19 AM

the reason i heard for that, is that if the car jostles and jerks around while ur driving and ur hand is on the shift knob you could move it out of place and cause grinding to the transmission. so you dont hold onto the knob unless you shift. but that has nothing to do with the knob shaking. Just you yanking on the gearstick

gpolak 03-28-2011 01:36 AM

You're not supposed to hang your hand on the shift knob, vibrating or not, since you're putting minor strain on the shift forks. That being said, I love the slight vibration coming out of this car's shift knob. It feels like the car is alive whenever I touch it. :-)

wdkwang 03-28-2011 02:11 AM

i dont think it'll be a prob on the z. it doesn't let you push it into gear without the clutch in.

JayYoon 03-28-2011 04:27 AM

not like vibrating... but compared to regular shift knob you can def noticed the difference?

spearfish25 03-28-2011 08:01 AM

By resting your hand/arm/whatever on the shift knob, you can be pressuring the linkage into partial disengagement causing excessive synchro wear.

IDZRVIT 03-28-2011 08:44 AM

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Originally Posted by spearfish25 (Post 1016156)
By resting your hand/arm/whatever on the shift knob, you can be pressuring the linkage into partial disengagement causing excessive synchro wear.

No. Resting your hand on the gear shift will not cause excessive wear. Now, if you were constantly pushing or pulling on the shifter while in gear, you may get wear but it's unlikely anyone would do this in day to day driving.

spearfish25 03-28-2011 08:55 AM

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Originally Posted by IDZRVIT (Post 1016208)
No. Resting your hand on the gear shift will not cause excessive wear. Now, if you were constantly pushing or pulling on the shifter while in gear, you may get wear but it's unlikely anyone would do this in day to day driving.

I suppose it depends on what you call 'resting'. I'm not interested in playing a game of semantics with you. However, pushing, pulling, resting, forcing, prying, coaxing, or tweaking the shift knob while driving along can lead to accelerated syncho wear. The wear is proportional to the amount of leaning, shoving, twisting, etc of the knob and how fat the person's arm is.

kenchan 03-28-2011 08:56 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by JayYoon (Post 1015615)
So hopefully we all know that our shift knob kinda vibrates when we are driving. I heard from a friend that your not suppose to hold on to shift knobs that are vibrating or shaking. Now anyone got any opinions on this?

This is normal. Just use the knob when you need to shift. Best not to place ur hand on the shifter while driving as it can put stress on the gearbox but I've not seen scientific data showing worn parts from doing this.


Also agree to wat spearfish said.

shadoquad 03-28-2011 09:15 AM

I "handle my knob" a lot while driving.

TypeOne 03-28-2011 10:34 AM

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Originally Posted by shadoquad (Post 1016302)
I "handle my knob" a lot while driving.

:iagree:

onzedge 03-28-2011 10:48 AM

Is gentle caressing of the shift knob OK? I hope so.

sonic370 03-28-2011 10:48 AM

I bought an AT. So my wife can take care of all the
knob grabbing.......

TheGreatOne 03-28-2011 10:59 AM

I'm guilty of leaving my hand on the shifter

Thats one of the thing I loved about the 370Z when I got it, the fact that the shifter is vibrating just while at idle...power :)

onzedge 03-28-2011 11:08 AM

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Originally Posted by sonic370 (Post 1016535)
I bought an AT. So my wife can take care of all the
knob grabbing.......

Nice move -- very forward-thinking.

Mt Tam I am 03-28-2011 11:09 AM

I sure do not notice a difference from other cars, regarding shaking or vibrating.

JayYoon 03-28-2011 01:41 PM

So its not recommended to rest your hand on the shift knob while driving??? grr!!!

onzedge 03-28-2011 02:03 PM

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Originally Posted by JayYoon (Post 1016885)
So its not recommended to rest your hand on the shift knob while driving??? grr!!!

I do not think it matters -- as long as you are just resting it there and not applying any sort of downward or lateral pressure. Almost every one of the cars I have owned in my 35+ years of legal driving experience has had a manual transmission. I rest my hand on the shifter out of habit and without any unusual transmission issues.

This is my experience and opinion only and I make no warranties either expressed or implied.

Liquid_G 03-28-2011 03:09 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by JayYoon (Post 1016885)
So its not recommended to rest your hand on the shift knob while driving??? grr!!!

no, don't touch it, don't even look at it in a mean way. Holding on to the shift knob can turn your vdc off and cause your oil to overheat.

6MT 03-28-2011 04:18 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by JayYoon (Post 1015615)
So hopefully we all know that our shift knob kinda vibrates when we are driving. I heard from a friend that your not suppose to hold on to shift knobs that are vibrating or shaking. Now anyone got any opinions on this?

Pure Bovine Scatology.

jaedub 03-28-2011 04:25 PM

again.....people over reacting. Its NOTHING to worry about.

IDZRVIT 03-28-2011 04:44 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by spearfish25 (Post 1016233)
The wear is proportional to the amount of leaning, shoving, twisting, etc of the knob and how fat the person's arm is.

Fine. Show us the proof seeing you're so adamant about this wearing of the synchros.

TypeOne 03-28-2011 05:00 PM

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Originally Posted by IDZRVIT (Post 1017326)
Fine. Show us the proof seeing you're so adamant about this wearing of the synchros.

:drama:

Red__Zed 03-28-2011 05:00 PM

You can definitely bend the shift fork. The Sentra's were famous for developing a popout in 5th gear from owners resting their hand on the shift knob while cruising.

I don't think it is in the Z's manual, but the owner's manual for my subaru warns that resting your hand on the knob can prematurely wear out synchro's.

6MT 03-28-2011 05:04 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Red__Zed (Post 1017360)
You can definitely bend the shift fork. The Sentra's were famous for developing a popout in 5th gear from owners resting their hand on the shift knob while cruising.

I don't think it is in the Z's manual, but the owner's manual for my subaru warns that resting your hand on the knob can prematurely wear out synchro's.

:bowrofl::inoutroflpuke::ugh2::bowrofl::bowrofl::b owrofl:

karotZ 03-28-2011 05:14 PM

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Originally Posted by wdkwang (Post 1016081)
i dont think it'll be a prob on the z. it doesn't let you push it into gear without the clutch in.

Off topic reply, yes, you can shift w/o the clutch which is extremly dumb, but I've tried it and it works. You dont wanna know how it sounded the first time I tried :facepalm: ... But anyway, its called perfect shifting. Some people say its :bs:

Red__Zed 03-28-2011 05:17 PM

Does anybody happen to know the specs on the shift rail spacing on our cars, vs the gears? I know on the Subaru's it's pretty tight, which is why there is such a risk. BMW's also have a really tight clearance, and you can actually ruin the gears by resting your hand on the shifter. On my Civic, I think the only thing it would do was eff up the bushings, since the clearances weren't that tight.

Red__Zed 03-28-2011 05:18 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 6MT (Post 1017367)
:bowrofl::inoutroflpuke::ugh2::bowrofl::bowrofl::b owrofl:

Constructive reply. I'm curious on your take on the SE-R trans problems, or why the Subaru and BMW's owner's manuals recommend against it.

KillerBee370 03-28-2011 05:39 PM

Vibrating and shaking really make my knob feel pretty good. Now you're saying I gotta take my hands off of it?! :(

6MT 03-28-2011 05:39 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Red__Zed (Post 1017405)
Constructive reply. I'm curious on your take on the SE-R trans problems, or why the Subaru and BMW's owner's manuals recommend against it.

Well..... last time I checked, the query was about a 370Z. And as I said before "That's pure Bovine Scatology"!

Red__Zed 03-28-2011 05:50 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 6MT (Post 1017438)
Well..... last time I checked, the query was about a 370Z. And as I said before "That's pure Bovine Scatology"!

Do you know the clearance specs for the shift rail spacing? There's a very real risk they are tight enough you risk damage by resting weight on the shift knob.

cfweber 03-28-2011 07:16 PM

what?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by JayYoon (Post 1015615)
So hopefully we all know that our shift knob kinda vibrates when we are driving. I heard from a friend that your not suppose to hold on to shift knobs that are vibrating or shaking. Now anyone got any opinions on this?

I'm right handed so I like to steer with that hand as much as possible

ProfessorDave 03-28-2011 08:05 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Liquid_G (Post 1017071)
no, don't touch it, don't even look at it in a mean way. Holding on to the shift knob can turn your vdc off and cause your oil to overheat.

:icon18::bowrofl::roflpuke2:

Red__Zed 03-28-2011 08:31 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 6MT (Post 1017438)
Well..... last time I checked, the query was about a 370Z. And as I said before "That's pure Bovine Scatology"!

care to back up your claim?

JayYoon 03-31-2011 12:02 PM

so as long i m not putting force downward force while resting my hand, it should be fine?
good ^_^;;


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