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Originally Posted by vgd A 370z is definitely in my future but maybe getting one now is too soon. I can afford the monthly payments but I think I would

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Old 03-24-2011, 07:22 PM   #16 (permalink)
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A 370z is definitely in my future but maybe getting one now is too soon. I can afford the monthly payments but I think I would feel better with a cheaper car right now.

What are some other cars in the ~16k range? I've always wanted a "roadster" type car. I looked at the AP2 S2000 and that seems perfect. Although it doesn't seem to be easy to find a stock.. in my opinion any mods on that car make it borderline ricer. Also prices vary quiet a lot.

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For 16K, you can buy a very nice late model Miata. There are many well cared for Miatas to be found and they really last forever. I bought mine new in 1996 and wouldn't part with it when I bought my 370Z. While it's obviously no where near as powerful as the Z and is a much different kind of car, it has a more comfortable ride, is less noisy and visibility is better. In 15 years, I've had absolutely no trouble with mine and I suggest it is a perfect "first sports car" for a young person. Very affordable to own and very enjoyable to drive.
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I would probably say get a 300zx TT if not an s2k. I was surprised whence found out how much a stock 300zx TT was putting to the wheels when I heard about JeffBlue getting one. He has a build thread in here somewhere if you can find it.
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300ZXtt best car I've ever owned. Buy that over a 370 and pocket $20,000 for the future.
I say drop $10k on a nice TT 300zx. You will not be dissatisfied. It's faster than a 350, looks great, and is fairly uncommon. Also you can get one with T-tops which are legit.
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See if you can find a low mileage last gen MR2 spyder. Awesomely balanced little cars and Toyota reliablity. Definitely not all that common either.

Or, wait a year, and see about the new FT-86 coming out. More money, tho'.
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If now isn't the right time for a 370 I'm not sure a TT 300zx is the best option. Maintenance is a PITA on them and good luck finding an affordable one that doesn't already have issues you would want fixed right away IMO.
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I love my Z but in all honesty, if Honda still produced the S2k and I could pick one up today NEW from the factory I would get it in a heartbeat. Give me an AP1 engine but with the glass rear window from the AP2 model and I will happy.

I drove one a couple years back but it would have been financially irresponsible for me to get one being fresh out of college w/ loans to pay off etc. The S2k may not have the power of the Z but it is the quintessential roadster/sports car made in the last decade IMHO. Nothing like ringing out a car for every ounce of power while the revs climb to 9k rpm.
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you said you can afford the monthly payments

done deal

start driving one

like the song says this isn't a dress rehearsal
The problem is the financial institutions are stingy and say I have insufficient credit for a loan like that. What bull.

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If now isn't the right time for a 370 I'm not sure a TT 300zx is the best option. Maintenance is a PITA on them and good luck finding an affordable one that doesn't already have issues you would want fixed right away IMO.
That's pretty much what I'm afraid of. Not sure I would want an older with 50k+ on it.

Why is there such a fluctuation of prices on the s2k? And the is there any variation in the 2004-2009 models?


By the way thanks very much for everyone's participation
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The problem is the financial institutions are stingy and say I have insufficient credit for a loan like that. What bull.


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That's pretty much what I'm afraid of. Not sure I would want an older with 50k+ on it.

Why is there such a fluctuation of prices on the s2k? And the is there any variation in the 2004-2009 models?


By the way thanks very much for everyone's participation

Regarding your S2k questions:

1999 - 2003 -> AP1 S2000's
These had 2.0L engines that revved to the sky. The rear window on this model was plastic and tended to fade/cloud over time. General consensus is this first generation was more raw and harder to drive than the second gen models.

2004-2009 -> AP2 S2000's
The displacement was upped from 2.0L to 2.2L. Power remained the same but the torque was increased. Redline was lowered. Suspension was tweaked and was more livable/easier to drive. AP2's also had minor cosmetic mods/different/larger wheels. Rear window was changed to glass also.

I'm pretty sure I'm missing some other things too so others feel free to chime in.
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My brother owns a s2000 and its such an amazing car. I'd take s2000 over 350z.


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Regarding your S2k questions:

1999 - 2003 -> AP1 S2000's
These had 2.0L engines that revved to the sky. The rear window on this model was plastic and tended to fade/cloud over time. General consensus is this first generation was more raw and harder to drive than the second gen models.

2004-2009 -> AP2 S2000's
The displacement was upped from 2.0L to 2.2L. Power remained the same but the torque was increased. Redline was lowered. Suspension was tweaked and was more livable/easier to drive. AP2's also had minor cosmetic mods/different/larger wheels. Rear window was changed to glass also.

I'm pretty sure I'm missing some other things too so others feel free to chime in.

Technically, the s2k was only sold as a 2000 model on. The plastic rear window was only on the 00's, and some 01's. 02-03 had a glass window. General gist is the same, but 06 adds traction control, and suspension tweaks came pretty randomly (02 got a changes, as did 05 and 06).
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A 370z is definitely in my future but maybe getting one now is too soon. I can afford the monthly payments but I think I would feel better with a cheaper car right now.

What are some other cars in the ~16k range? I've always wanted a "roadster" type car. I looked at the AP2 S2000 and that seems perfect. Although it doesn't seem to be easy to find a stock.. in my opinion any mods on that car make it borderline ricer. Also prices vary quiet a lot.

Thoughts?
Maybe other cars you guys may suggest?
S2000 or c5 Corvette. The c5 performs nearly identical to a 370z, albeit with not as nice interior. The s2k is a very well made car and fills its performance niche like nothing else.
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The problem is the financial institutions are stingy and say I have insufficient credit for a loan like that. What bull.


Best advice in the thread!



That's pretty much what I'm afraid of. Not sure I would want an older with 50k+ on it.

Why is there such a fluctuation of prices on the s2k? And the is there any variation in the 2004-2009 models?


By the way thanks very much for everyone's participation
Find a new institution. I financed my new 'vette with nothing but 2 paid off one thousand dollar loans, a 8 month old credit card, and a 2.5 year old line of credit in my history. Granted, I was low 700s, but that is seriously limited and low limit history. All they wanted was 10% down. Just look around someone will finance you unless you have seriously messed up along the way. I went through 1 bank and 2 CUs before I got financed. Work at it.
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