The infamous "break-in" period.

OnCallZ · 04-08-2009, 11:14 PM

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Originally Posted by theDreamer

These black boxes can record almost anything electronic (which as we all know is getting close to everything), but individual states have to approve the use of these in cases. Insurance companies cannot just use them against you at will, there are laws protecting the drive, now manufacturers is a different story and a tougher battle.

I can foresee black boxes being used by law enforcement, that could work either way though. If somebody claims that they didn't speed and they genuinely didn't. The black box will be the angel and the devil

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Originally Posted by dad

WikiAnswers - How should you 'break-in' a new car

"Most modern car engines are broken in at the factory, before assembly. Therefore the old tradition of breaking in a new car doesn't apply anymore. Just drive as you normally would drive and treat the car the way you would treat anything else of value."

AARC51 · 04-08-2009, 11:33 PM

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Originally Posted by frost

I don't want to sound like a conspiracy theorist, but with the "black box" tracking more and more of what we do every couple years, don't be surprised if you start seeing warranty issues denied due to not following their break in rules in the future.

Are there Nissan break-in guidelines to be followed? I haven't read the manual that much yet...

AK370Z · 04-09-2009, 01:44 AM

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Originally Posted by AARC51

Are there Nissan break-in guidelines to be followed? I haven't read the manual that much yet...

other related threads:

Break-In a New Car

Break In Period?

Here's my point of view, I am not an engineer. I just listen to what those knowledgeable/highly paid Nissan Engineers want me to do.

zZSportZz · 04-09-2009, 07:23 AM

I usually try to break in my cars, but always end up failing in the end. The throttle is just too addicting. I follow the rules for the most part, but I'm not paranoid by any means. I don't think breaking in vehicles nowadays is as important as earlier models. I suppose it doesn't hurt, but I don't think it has the benefits of old.

zZSportZz · 04-09-2009, 07:34 AM

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Originally Posted by frost

I don't want to sound like a conspiracy theorist, but with the "black box" tracking more and more of what we do every couple years, don't be surprised if you start seeing warranty issues denied due to not following their break in rules in the future.

This may be true down the road, but I don't think current Z owners have to worry about this. The "event data recorder" in our cars only track info for about 30 seconds or less in the event of crash. There is another post floating around with more information on this. But you are totally right, the future may hold a nasty little surprise for car enthusiasts.

Edit: Here is a link to that thread in case anyone missed it and is interested.

Anyone know more about the EVENT DATA RECORDER ?

MightyBobo · 04-09-2009, 08:08 AM

My opinion is that, after several solid heat cycles (full operating temperature, all the way down to outside temperature), I doubt that much more breaking in is REALLY needed. But, then again, Im no mechanic, either

tru_Asiatik · 04-09-2009, 12:31 PM

ive been doing it on all my cars so why stop now

it doesnt hurt to drive slow for at least 1000miles

but hey if you want to put the "pedal to the metal" who am i to judge :P

LaSeeno · 04-09-2009, 01:56 PM

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Originally Posted by 355890

Everything needs to get seated properly, lubed up, time for new driver to get used to the new vehicle, it's a 1,000 miles ( how hard can that really be ) Don't answer, I know, I'm holding out through the alloted time frame.

LOL, you think a motor revving at over 6k rpms needs time to get lubricated or seated properly.

Drive it hard off the lot. You will be fine.

355890 · 04-09-2009, 02:23 PM

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Originally Posted by LaSeeno

LOL, you think a motor revving at over 6k rpms needs time to get lubricated or seated properly.

Drive it hard off the lot. You will be fine.

Have you got a block heater installed yet????

Forrest · 04-09-2009, 03:21 PM

Its been 1 month and 2 days and i just barely got at 9xx miles and i only went over 4k once when i was pasing somebody. I dont like doing it the slow and steady way but who am i to argue with the nissan manual.

MarcusMIA · 04-09-2009, 03:31 PM

Did you guys read that web page a fellow member posted a while back on why it's better to drive your car hard instead of the recommended process stated by the manual?

It was an interesting website.

ChrisSlicks · 04-09-2009, 03:38 PM

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Originally Posted by MarcusMIA

Did you guys read that web page a fellow member posted a while back on why it's better to drive your car hard instead of the recommended process stated by the manual?

It was an interesting website.

It was interesting.

Had to be done in the first 20 miles though, and in theory the factory engine test could of achieved this already.

dad · 04-09-2009, 04:45 PM

Before you go hauling ***, read this!

Due to these different components, "your new tires require a break-in period" to ensure that they deliver their normal ride quality and maximum performance. As tires are cured, a release lubricant is applied to prevent them from sticking in their mold. Some of the lubricant stays on the surface of your tires, "reducing traction until it is worn away".
Five hundred miles of easy acceleration, cornering and braking will allow the mold release lubricant to wear off, allowing the other tire components to begin working together. It is also important to note that your old tires probably had very little tread depth remaining when you felt it was time to replace them. As any autocrosser or racer who has tread rubber shaved off of his tires will tell you, low tread depth tires respond quicker."Don't be surprised if your new tires are a little slower to respond (even if you use the exact same tire as before). Their new, full depth brings with it a little more tread squirm until they wear down.

ChrisSlicks · 04-09-2009, 05:18 PM

^ Yeah that's good info. I've taken the odd off ramp a bit quick on brand new tires and got quite a surprise!

semtex · 04-09-2009, 05:31 PM

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Originally Posted by SoCal 370Z

This is the very thing I've wondered about and occasionally mentioned here too. Porsche will void your warranty when you do the wrong thing. Just how much information is stored in ECU? Redlines? Overheating? 160-mph junkets in blue 370z's.

I have no earthly idea who you could be referring to with that last little bit about 160-mph junkets.

04-09-2009, 08:08 AM	#21 (permalink)
MightyBobo A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: Las Vegas, NV Posts: 8,465 Drives: No cars; only bikes Rep Power: 52	My opinion is that, after several solid heat cycles (full operating temperature, all the way down to outside temperature), I doubt that much more breaking in is REALLY needed. But, then again, Im no mechanic, either __________________ I don't own a car anymore.

04-09-2009, 04:45 PM	#28 (permalink)
dad Grand Prix of Endurance Join Date: Nov 2008 Location: Tennessee Posts: 3,476 Drives: Mulsanne Straight Rep Power: 26	Before you go hauling ***, read this! Due to these different components, "your new tires require a break-in period" to ensure that they deliver their normal ride quality and maximum performance. As tires are cured, a release lubricant is applied to prevent them from sticking in their mold. Some of the lubricant stays on the surface of your tires, "reducing traction until it is worn away". Five hundred miles of easy acceleration, cornering and braking will allow the mold release lubricant to wear off, allowing the other tire components to begin working together. It is also important to note that your old tires probably had very little tread depth remaining when you felt it was time to replace them. As any autocrosser or racer who has tread rubber shaved off of his tires will tell you, low tread depth tires respond quicker."Don't be surprised if your new tires are a little slower to respond (even if you use the exact same tire as before). Their new, full depth brings with it a little more tread squirm until they wear down. __________________ We can do without any article of luxury we have never had; but once obtained, it is not in human nature to surrender it voluntary.

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zZSportZz A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: Maryland Posts: 1,095 Drives: 370z Blk on Blk 6MT Rep Power: 18	I usually try to break in my cars, but always end up failing in the end. The throttle is just too addicting. I follow the rules for the most part, but I'm not paranoid by any means. I don't think breaking in vehicles nowadays is as important as earlier models. I suppose it doesn't hurt, but I don't think it has the benefits of old.

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tru_Asiatik Track Member Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: so cal Posts: 793 Drives: 2009 370Z 6MT Rep Power: 270	ive been doing it on all my cars so why stop now it doesnt hurt to drive slow for at least 1000miles but hey if you want to put the "pedal to the metal" who am i to judge :P

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Forrest Track Member Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: california 707! Posts: 677 Drives: 09 370z Blk 6mt sprt Rep Power: 258	Its been 1 month and 2 days and i just barely got at 9xx miles and i only went over 4k once when i was pasing somebody. I dont like doing it the slow and steady way but who am i to argue with the nissan manual.

04-09-2009, 03:31 PM	#26 (permalink)
MarcusMIA Base Member Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: Cap Hill, Seattle, WA Posts: 71 Drives: '14 370Z Blk MT Rep Power: 16	Did you guys read that web page a fellow member posted a while back on why it's better to drive your car hard instead of the recommended process stated by the manual? It was an interesting website.

04-09-2009, 05:18 PM	#29 (permalink)
ChrisSlicks A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: North East Posts: 6,203 Drives: 09 370Z Sport M6 Rep Power: 653	^ Yeah that's good info. I've taken the odd off ramp a bit quick on brand new tires and got quite a surprise!