5.0

BLM · 03-14-2011, 01:41 PM

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Originally Posted by Red__Zed

I'd make the switch to a Jeep that could lap the Z around a track the way a mustang does.

I'd still love to SEE this with "guys like us". Pro drivers for sure, but have you ever been to a track day? Have you driven a car like the 5.0 around a track? People have trouble with it in a straight line. I'd LOVE to see some of these owners with it around a track. Unless they're experienced they will be oversteering into the infield and causing huge pile-ups. This paper racing is great but I'd just love to watch some of these owners of cars with such impressive specs drive them competitively and ATTEMPT to replicate the published lap times, acceleration specs, etc.

You drove an s2k...the same way you need to keep car above 5500 rpm to get anything out of it, you need to be very careful with something like the mustang. You can't just mash the throttle coming out of the turn. There's so much power and torque throughout the entire rpm range that you'll lose traction. Hell, you cant even mash the throttle in a straight line. It's all well and good quoting performance numbers of what a pro driver can do in your car, but who's the one ultimately driving it?

m4a1mustang · 03-14-2011, 01:53 PM

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Originally Posted by BLM

I'd still love to SEE this with "guys like us". Pro drivers for sure, but have you ever been to a track day? Have you driven a car like the 5.0 around a track? People have trouble with it in a straight line. I'd LOVE to see some of these owners with it around a track. Unless they're experienced they will be oversteering into the infield and causing huge pile-ups. This paper racing is great but I'd just love to watch some of these owners of cars with such impressive specs drive them competitively and ATTEMPT to replicate the published lap times, acceleration specs, etc.

You drove an s2k...the same way you need to keep car above 5500 rpm to get anything out of it, you need to be very careful with something like the mustang. You can't just mash the throttle coming out of the turn. There's so much power and torque throughout the entire rpm range that you'll lose traction. Hell, you cant even mash the throttle in a straight line. It's all well and good quoting performance numbers of what a pro driver can do in your car, but who's the one ultimately driving it?

I've commented on this before. I think if you put an inexperienced driver on a road course with the Z and with the 5.0, he might be quicker with the Z.

The Z has a significant amount of understeer built in, thanks in large part to the staggered tire setup, so it is a lot easier for a novice to drive near the limit compared to the more neutral-to-oversteery 5.0.

When you approach the limit of grip with the Z, the front end will start to slip first. This is much, much easier to manage for a novice than the Mustang, which will bring the tail around first.

But in the hands of drivers who know what they are doing, the 5.0 will hands down drive away from a 370 on anything short of the tightest auto-cross course, where the shorter wheelbase of the 370 navigating the tight course could overcome any advantage the 5.0 has. But that's AutoX.

BLM · 03-14-2011, 04:27 PM

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Originally Posted by m4a1mustang

I've commented on this before. I think if you put an inexperienced driver on a road course with the Z and with the 5.0, he might be quicker with the Z.

The Z has a significant amount of understeer built in, thanks in large part to the staggered tire setup, so it is a lot easier for a novice to drive near the limit compared to the more neutral-to-oversteery 5.0.

When you approach the limit of grip with the Z, the front end will start to slip first. This is much, much easier to manage for a novice than the Mustang, which will bring the tail around first.

But in the hands of drivers who know what they are doing, the 5.0 will hands down drive away from a 370 on anything short of the tightest auto-cross course, where the shorter wheelbase of the 370 navigating the tight course could overcome any advantage the 5.0 has. But that's AutoX.

Agreed