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shadoquad 03-14-2011 01:42 PM

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Originally Posted by Red__Zed (Post 986205)
I heard the mustang was equipped with the " driver busy nailing his cousin" mod.

:icon18:

BLM 03-14-2011 01:49 PM

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Originally Posted by ZYGOTE (Post 986202)
I hear you BLM, I was actually never a Mustang fan, but this car changed my whole perception. As much as I loved the Z, the Mustang outperforms it in almost every metric, which is impressive. Plus, I needed something just a little bigger than the Z and the Mustang fits the bill.

Don't get me wrong, the car is a goddam beast. It's incredible what Ford has put together, it's just not for me. The styling and interior just turn me terribly off. If I didnt care AT ALL what a car looked like and just wanted performance I'd get an EVO. All year performance, 400 whp with bolt-ons and a boost increase, etc.

shadoquad 03-14-2011 01:51 PM

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Originally Posted by BLM (Post 986231)
Don't get me wrong, the car is a goddam beast. It's incredible what Ford has put together, it's just not for me. The styling and interior just turn me terribly off. If I didnt care AT ALL what a car looked like and just wanted performance I'd get an EVO. All year performance, 400 whp with bolt-ons and a boost increase, etc.

Pretty much sums up my opinion, except I think the Ford's interior is nice.

Red__Zed 03-14-2011 01:51 PM

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Originally Posted by BLM (Post 986231)
Don't get me wrong, the car is a goddam beast. It's incredible what Ford has put together, it's just not for me. The styling and interior just turn me terribly off. If I didnt care AT ALL what a car looked like and just wanted performance I'd get an EVO. All year performance, 400 whp with bolt-ons and a boost increase, etc.

Yeah, but the Mustang looks 1000x better than an EVO, and is RWD.

BLM 03-14-2011 01:52 PM

Yea, the EVO X is hideous. Maybe lowered with some aggressive wheels I could come to like the Ford, a black on black setup perhaps...

m4a1mustang 03-14-2011 01:53 PM

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Originally Posted by BLM (Post 986201)
I'd still love to SEE this with "guys like us". Pro drivers for sure, but have you ever been to a track day? Have you driven a car like the 5.0 around a track? People have trouble with it in a straight line. I'd LOVE to see some of these owners with it around a track. Unless they're experienced they will be oversteering into the infield and causing huge pile-ups. This paper racing is great but I'd just love to watch some of these owners of cars with such impressive specs drive them competitively and ATTEMPT to replicate the published lap times, acceleration specs, etc.

You drove an s2k...the same way you need to keep car above 5500 rpm to get anything out of it, you need to be very careful with something like the mustang. You can't just mash the throttle coming out of the turn. There's so much power and torque throughout the entire rpm range that you'll lose traction. Hell, you cant even mash the throttle in a straight line. It's all well and good quoting performance numbers of what a pro driver can do in your car, but who's the one ultimately driving it?

I've commented on this before. I think if you put an inexperienced driver on a road course with the Z and with the 5.0, he might be quicker with the Z.

The Z has a significant amount of understeer built in, thanks in large part to the staggered tire setup, so it is a lot easier for a novice to drive near the limit compared to the more neutral-to-oversteery 5.0.

When you approach the limit of grip with the Z, the front end will start to slip first. This is much, much easier to manage for a novice than the Mustang, which will bring the tail around first.

But in the hands of drivers who know what they are doing, the 5.0 will hands down drive away from a 370 on anything short of the tightest auto-cross course, where the shorter wheelbase of the 370 navigating the tight course could overcome any advantage the 5.0 has. But that's AutoX.

shadoquad 03-14-2011 01:55 PM

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Originally Posted by Red__Zed (Post 986242)
Yeah, but the Mustang looks 1000x better than an EVO.

That's like saying dog sh*t is slightly more pleasant than bullsh*t. It's still sh*t.

:rofl2::rofl2::rofl2:

m4a1mustang 03-14-2011 01:57 PM

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Originally Posted by Red__Zed (Post 986205)
:icon18:



I heard the mustang was equipped with the " driver busy nailing his cousin" mod.

Interesting. My cousin's name is Dan. :yum:

Red__Zed 03-14-2011 01:57 PM

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Originally Posted by shadoquad (Post 986257)
That's like saying dog sh*t is slightly more pleasant than bullsh*t. It's still sh*t.

:rofl2::rofl2::rofl2:

I actually like the looks of the Mustang.


Don't worry, I'll show myself out.

m4a1mustang 03-14-2011 02:00 PM

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Originally Posted by Red__Zed (Post 986263)
I actually like the looks of the Mustang.


Don't worry, I'll show myself out.

Don't listen to Al regarding style. He's in the process of installing custom pink leather upholstery in his Z.

shadoquad 03-14-2011 02:02 PM

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Originally Posted by m4a1mustang (Post 986272)
Don't listen to Al regarding style. He's in the process of installing custom pink leather upholstery in his Z.

My car will look like this when I'm done. Very tasteful.

http://farm1.static.flickr.com/14/16...b9c6a879_z.jpg

Red__Zed 03-14-2011 02:02 PM

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Originally Posted by m4a1mustang (Post 986262)
Interesting. My cousin's name is Dan. :yum:

Sounds like a wonderful fellow. Maybe I will get to meet him someday.:rofl2:

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Originally Posted by m4a1mustang (Post 986272)
Don't listen to Al regarding style. He's in the process of installing custom pink leather upholstery in his Z.

Oh god, please no. That will totally clash with the black cherry exterior.

b1adesofcha0s 03-14-2011 02:25 PM

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Originally Posted by Red__Zed (Post 986280)
Oh god, please no. That will totally clash with the purple exterior.

:roflpuke2:

m4a1mustang 03-14-2011 02:26 PM

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Originally Posted by Red__Zed (Post 986280)
Sounds like a wonderful fellow. Maybe I will get to meet him someday.:rofl2:



Oh god, please no. That will totally clash with the black cherry exterior.

Black Cherry clashes with itself. :p

m4a1mustang 03-14-2011 02:26 PM

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Originally Posted by b1adesofcha0s (Post 986331)
And he bought a purple Z :roflpuke2:

:icon18:

b1adesofcha0s 03-14-2011 02:30 PM

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Originally Posted by m4a1mustang (Post 986335)
:icon18:

:ninja3:

Lol, I didn't read Dan's comment before I posted.

Red__Zed 03-14-2011 02:32 PM

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Originally Posted by m4a1mustang (Post 986332)
Black Cherry clashes with itself. :p

:bowrofl:

b1adesofcha0s 03-14-2011 02:35 PM

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Originally Posted by m4a1mustang (Post 986332)
Black Cherry clashes with itself. :p

:bowrofl::bowrofl::bowrofl:

Red__Zed 03-14-2011 02:37 PM

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Originally Posted by Red__Zed (Post 986354)
:bowrofl:

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Originally Posted by b1adesofcha0s (Post 986361)
:bowrofl::bowrofl::bowrofl:

What, you think you're better than me or something? You only get one :bowrofl: per 1k posts.



:gtfo2:





:bowrofl::bowrofl::bowrofl::bowrofl::bowrofl::bowr ofl::bowrofl::bowrofl:

jpritche 03-14-2011 02:38 PM

I go to class for an hour and I come back and I have missed so much already. God I love this forum!

b1adesofcha0s 03-14-2011 02:39 PM

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Originally Posted by Red__Zed (Post 986365)
What, you think you're better than me or something? You only get one :bowrofl: per 1k posts.



:gtfo2:





:bowrofl::bowrofl::bowrofl::bowrofl::bowrofl::bowr ofl::bowrofl::bowrofl:

:icon18:

I was just reinforcing your comment in case someone didn't understand the amount of :bowrofl: that was implied. :roflpuke2:

m4a1mustang 03-14-2011 02:40 PM

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Originally Posted by b1adesofcha0s (Post 986374)
:icon18:

I was just reinforcing your comment in case someone didn't understand the magnitude of :bowrofl: that was implied. :roflpuke2:

Whoa... too soon, dude. Too soon. :shakes head:

b1adesofcha0s 03-14-2011 02:40 PM

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Originally Posted by jpritche (Post 986369)
I go to class for an hour and I come back and I have missed so much already. God I love this forum!

I think that you will find a lot of useful information in the last page or two :roflpuke2:

Red__Zed 03-14-2011 02:41 PM

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Originally Posted by b1adesofcha0s (Post 986374)
:icon18:

I was just reinforcing your comment in case someone didn't understand the magnitude of :bowrofl: that was implied. :roflpuke2:

:bowrofl::bowrofl::bowrofl::bowrofl:

Red__Zed 03-14-2011 02:42 PM

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Originally Posted by m4a1mustang (Post 986376)
Whoa... too soon, dude. Too soon. :shakes head:

Dude, I'm not OK with getting into a pun war on such a shaky subject.

b1adesofcha0s 03-14-2011 02:42 PM

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Originally Posted by m4a1mustang (Post 986376)
Whoa... too soon, dude. Too soon. :shakes head:

My badz, I didn't even think about that. It's fixed now :)

m4a1mustang 03-14-2011 02:47 PM

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Originally Posted by b1adesofcha0s (Post 986384)
My badz, I didn't even think about that. It's fixed now :)

:icon18:

jpritche 03-14-2011 02:51 PM

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Originally Posted by b1adesofcha0s (Post 986377)
I think that you will find a lot of useful information in the last page or two :roflpuke2:

I have, not about cars, but about the people in general ;)

It kind of makes me want to go to VA :superghey:

oh and can't forget MD :)

b1adesofcha0s 03-14-2011 02:51 PM

Mustang drivers are always starting :drama:

You don't want to be one of them, lol. :roflpuke2:

jpritche 03-14-2011 02:52 PM

Your post is at 666 :/ oh $hit

That cannot be a good sign.

Red__Zed 03-14-2011 02:52 PM

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Originally Posted by m4a1mustang (Post 986376)
Whoa... too soon, dude. Too soon. :shakes head:

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Originally Posted by b1adesofcha0s (Post 986412)
Mustang drivers are always starting :drama:

You want to be one of them, lol. :roflpuke2:

fixed.:ugh2:

b1adesofcha0s 03-14-2011 02:54 PM

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Originally Posted by jpritche (Post 986419)
Your post is at 666 :/ oh $hit

That cannot be a good sign.

Noooooo!!!
Oh wait, it's good now :icon17:
<-------------

jpritche 03-14-2011 02:57 PM

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Originally Posted by b1adesofcha0s (Post 986429)
Noooooo!!!
Oh wait, it's good now :icon17:
<-------------

Oh thank goodness! You are my hero. End of story. :bowdown:

BLM 03-14-2011 04:27 PM

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Originally Posted by m4a1mustang (Post 986250)
I've commented on this before. I think if you put an inexperienced driver on a road course with the Z and with the 5.0, he might be quicker with the Z.

The Z has a significant amount of understeer built in, thanks in large part to the staggered tire setup, so it is a lot easier for a novice to drive near the limit compared to the more neutral-to-oversteery 5.0.

When you approach the limit of grip with the Z, the front end will start to slip first. This is much, much easier to manage for a novice than the Mustang, which will bring the tail around first.

But in the hands of drivers who know what they are doing, the 5.0 will hands down drive away from a 370 on anything short of the tightest auto-cross course, where the shorter wheelbase of the 370 navigating the tight course could overcome any advantage the 5.0 has. But that's AutoX.


Agreed

Endgame 03-14-2011 10:22 PM

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Originally Posted by m4a1mustang (Post 985041)
I checked out a loaded Explorer in the showroom a couple weeks ago. NICE is all I can say. That car is plush as hell!

Sweet... I can't wait to see it in person... :tup:


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