Consumer Reports' Obsession

kenchan · 03-04-2011, 02:11 PM

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Originally Posted by dad

Some do some don't, wonder why?

car's made in germany?

jpit · 03-04-2011, 02:34 PM

Despite all this, they actually rate the car highly with a score of 86 (3rd out of 26 tested). In areas that matter, acceleration, handling, braking etc. it gets top marks. Predicted depreciation is also excellent.

kenchan · 03-04-2011, 03:04 PM

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Originally Posted by jpit

Despite all this, they actually rate the car highly with a score of 86 (3rd out of 26 tested). In areas that matter, acceleration, handling, braking etc. it gets top marks. Predicted depreciation is also excellent.

werd...where the hell did they come up with the remark about buying used 2009 is bad?

they must have forgotten what they wrote while finisihing up their report.

PapoZalsa · 03-04-2011, 03:11 PM

In many magazines the 370Z was Best Car for 2009. So what is the different now?

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Originally Posted by kenchan

werd...where the hell did they come up with the remark about buying used 2009 is bad?

they must have forgotten what they wrote while finisihing up their report.

Remember that many of these Car Magazines are bias against japanese cars especially the 370Z.

kenchan · 03-04-2011, 03:19 PM

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Originally Posted by PapoZalsa

Remember that many of these Car Magazines are bias against japanese cars especially the 370Z.

they walk up to a j-car and ask "do you like NGK plugs?"

6MT · 03-04-2011, 03:25 PM

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Originally Posted by SoCal 370Z

I have never given any credence to Consumer Reports, other than using it in an emergency situation when supplies runout whilst perched atop a throne.

I believe the internet is the only source that one needs to show-up Consumer Reports' reliable journalism.

(and it's a shame I'm NOT being sarcastic)

sucasa · 03-04-2011, 03:33 PM

I would be very suspect of any car reviews from that publication. For home appliances, and toasters, they are fine, but for sports car, i rather get opinions from Car Driver, Automobile Magazine and reliability rating from JD Power, etc..

CR proabably thinks these cars will be beaten up at the track, hence, used car value will plummet. I find that hard to believe since the Z34 has been out two years (not enough time to gather real data), and every auto journal i read has it ranked very high in terms of reliability. Plus, Zs are wholly made Japan in a factory for Zs and GTRs.. Unlike other brands which outsource and built cars in pieces from other parts of the world.

SoCal 370Z · 03-04-2011, 03:40 PM

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Originally Posted by 6MT

I believe the internet is the only source that one needs to show-up Consumer Reports' reliable journalism.

(and it's a shame I'm NOT being sarcastic)

Forums provide infinitely more valuable feedback than Consumer Reports can ever hope to achieve.

jpit · 03-04-2011, 03:48 PM

If you read the report they rate the car very highly and it will have low depreciation when you sell it. Areas that it did not fare well in include ride, visibility, paint, and squeaks and rattles. It does not recommend the 370Z because of low reliability ratings based on owner surveys.

m4a1mustang · 03-04-2011, 03:51 PM

Well, I'd avoid an '09 if I was buying used simply because all the issues with the '09s seem to have been solved in 2010+.

No way in hell would I put up with that ECU whine again, or waste my time fighting with a dealer to try and replace it with a 2010 ECU.

SoCal 370Z · 03-04-2011, 03:53 PM

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Originally Posted by jpit

Areas that it did not fare well in include ride, visibility, paint, and squeaks and rattles.

That sums up about 99% of the cars produced today.

dad · 03-04-2011, 03:55 PM

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Originally Posted by SoCal 370Z

Forums provide infinitely more valuable feedback than Consumer Reports can ever hope to achieve.

Oh hell yea, that's a fact!

Inspector71 · 03-04-2011, 03:56 PM

I was in CVS Pharmacy and came across the CR mag. A friend has been trying to talk me into buying a Challenger (trading the Z as I posted her before). I looked up the Challenger and it has a far below average repair record. Not to surprised I hate to admit. So I went to the Z. They rated it as below average but didn't say why. I then turned to the Pathfinder (what I traded for the Z). They said even though the Pathfinder ranked better than average for repair record, it still failed to meet their criteria and they would not recommend it. What? Noise and bumpy ride are what you get with a sports car. I had 5 Rx7s and they were all like that. My big cruiser flopped around like a whale trying to break dance going down the highway. I'll take the bumpy ride any day. What is CR's problem?

shadoquad · 03-04-2011, 03:58 PM

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Originally Posted by m4a1mustang

Well, I'd avoid an '09 if I was buying used simply because all the issues with the '09s seem to have been solved in 2010+.

No way in hell would I put up with that ECU whine again, or waste my time fighting with a dealer to try and replace it with a 2010 ECU.

Yeah, good thing you didn't replace it with just some other first model year sports car.

PapoZalsa · 03-04-2011, 04:04 PM

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Originally Posted by jpit

If you read the report they rate the car very highly and it will have low depreciation when you sell it. Areas that it did not fare well in include ride, visibility, paint, and squeaks and rattles. It does not recommend the 370Z because of low reliability ratings based on owner surveys.

Those owner's probably never had a Z before. I have owned a 300ZX, 350Z and now the 370Z. Now when I bought this car there were certain things that I already expected like the blind spots.

I don't know where they get that reliability BS when the current model is not even 3 yrs old.

03-04-2011, 02:34 PM	#17 (permalink)
jpit Enthusiast Member Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: Washington State Posts: 440 Drives: 370Z Tour MT w/Spt Rep Power: 16	Despite all this, they actually rate the car highly with a score of 86 (3rd out of 26 tested). In areas that matter, acceleration, handling, braking etc. it gets top marks. Predicted depreciation is also excellent. Last edited by jpit; 03-04-2011 at 02:39 PM.

03-04-2011, 03:51 PM	#25 (permalink)
m4a1mustang A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: Northern VA Posts: 55,385 Drives: on two wheels Rep Power: 6962	Well, I'd avoid an '09 if I was buying used simply because all the issues with the '09s seem to have been solved in 2010+. No way in hell would I put up with that ECU whine again, or waste my time fighting with a dealer to try and replace it with a 2010 ECU. __________________ - Steve Zs & Coffee - Saturdays at 10AM in Fairfax, VA and Columbia, MD (Click the banner!) LIKE us on Facebook!

03-04-2011, 03:56 PM	#28 (permalink)
Inspector71 Enthusiast Member Join Date: Sep 2009 Location: Lee's Summit Missouri Posts: 337 Drives: 2015 Pearl White Z Rep Power: 16	Thanks for this post I was in CVS Pharmacy and came across the CR mag. A friend has been trying to talk me into buying a Challenger (trading the Z as I posted her before). I looked up the Challenger and it has a far below average repair record. Not to surprised I hate to admit. So I went to the Z. They rated it as below average but didn't say why. I then turned to the Pathfinder (what I traded for the Z). They said even though the Pathfinder ranked better than average for repair record, it still failed to meet their criteria and they would not recommend it. What? Noise and bumpy ride are what you get with a sports car. I had 5 Rx7s and they were all like that. My big cruiser flopped around like a whale trying to break dance going down the highway. I'll take the bumpy ride any day. What is CR's problem?

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03-04-2011, 03:33 PM	#22 (permalink)
sucasa Base Member Join Date: Jan 2011 Location: DC Posts: 156 Drives: 2010 370Z Rep Power: 14	I would be very suspect of any car reviews from that publication. For home appliances, and toasters, they are fine, but for sports car, i rather get opinions from Car Driver, Automobile Magazine and reliability rating from JD Power, etc.. CR proabably thinks these cars will be beaten up at the track, hence, used car value will plummet. I find that hard to believe since the Z34 has been out two years (not enough time to gather real data), and every auto journal i read has it ranked very high in terms of reliability. Plus, Zs are wholly made Japan in a factory for Zs and GTRs.. Unlike other brands which outsource and built cars in pieces from other parts of the world.

03-04-2011, 03:48 PM	#24 (permalink)
jpit Enthusiast Member Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: Washington State Posts: 440 Drives: 370Z Tour MT w/Spt Rep Power: 16	If you read the report they rate the car very highly and it will have low depreciation when you sell it. Areas that it did not fare well in include ride, visibility, paint, and squeaks and rattles. It does not recommend the 370Z because of low reliability ratings based on owner surveys.