took vdc off

m4a1mustang · 02-27-2011, 09:15 PM

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Originally Posted by SPOHN

I don't understand how people say not to turn VDC off when DD. So when do you recommend VDC off? When your spirted driving or tracking? Get where I'm going?

Well, not surprisingly, there are a lot of people driving high-power RWD cars that don't understand one bit about physics and how it relates to a motor vehicle. For those people, it's probably best to keep all of the electro nannies on.

spearfish25 · 02-27-2011, 09:40 PM

Frankly, many people THINK they know how to handle a RWD at the limit when they absolutely do not. My track days have humbled me...I've done 7 and realize I'm very much a novice driver in the track world. Driving with VDC off on the track is certainly more risky but it's a controlled environment where you can learn what it's like at the limit. You can be more conservative on dangerous turns (eg walls near the track edge) and more aggressive on safe turns (nothing but flat open field surrounding the track). If you turn off VDC while street driving and something unexpected happens, you'll be very sorry when you wreck your car, wondering if VDC would have saved you. The street is an unpredictable place and you're never going to be 100% alert all the time. On the track, you're much more focused and there aren't as many variables.

m4a1mustang · 02-27-2011, 09:58 PM

Well, the bottom line is that none of us need to be driving balls out on the street. At a maximum I will push myself to maybe 80% of what I know I can do. Like you said, the street is not a controlled environment and there are many variables you need to factor in besides your own incompetence behind the wheel in "performance" driving situations.

SPOHN · 02-27-2011, 10:04 PM

You have to have faith in yourself and your skills. Even if something unexpected happened. You learn and teach youself better skills which in return should play out in unexpected events. Sort of like a fighter who trains and must apply his abilities with every second being unexpected. Being you never know what the other persons doing or thinking. Just like everyday driving around others. Never take driving for granted.

m4a1mustang · 02-27-2011, 10:05 PM

Well you also learn to be smart and just limit the likelihood of ever having to really test your skills should you do something to screw up.

SPOHN · 02-27-2011, 10:06 PM

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Originally Posted by m4a1mustang

Well, the bottom line is that none of us need to be driving balls out on the street. At a maximum I will push myself to maybe 80% of what I know I can do. Like you said, the street is not a controlled environment and there are many variables you need to factor in besides your own incompetence behind the wheel in "performance" driving situations.

At 80% you will still have a blast.

m4a1mustang · 02-27-2011, 10:10 PM

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Originally Posted by SPOHN

At 80% you will still have a blast.

Hell even putting around at 35-45 mph on a 35 mph road with the windows down is fun. As you young whippersnappers age you'll find that going for a leisurely cruise can be quite fun.

Red__Zed · 02-27-2011, 10:19 PM

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Originally Posted by m4a1mustang

Hell even putting around at 35-45 mph on a 35 mph road with the windows down is fun. As you young whippersnappers age you'll find that going for a leisurely cruise can be quite fun.

you mean I don't need to reenact fast and the furious every time I drive?

b1adesofcha0s · 02-27-2011, 10:24 PM

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Originally Posted by Red__Zed

you mean I don't need to reenact fast and the furious every time I drive?

Man, that's why I bought the Z in the first place, lol.

m4a1mustang · 02-27-2011, 10:26 PM

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Originally Posted by Red__Zed

you mean I don't need to reenact fast and the furious every time I drive?

No, just the Days of Thunder rental car scene.

KillerBee370 · 02-27-2011, 11:01 PM

I never drive with it on and I never turn off rev match. It's just the way it is.

bigrob126 · 02-27-2011, 11:19 PM

Heck, what did everyone with a fast car do before traction control was invented?

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!!Drive that baby!!!

Red__Zed · 02-27-2011, 11:22 PM

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Originally Posted by bigrob126

Heck, what did everyone with a fast car do before traction control was invented?

)

!!Drive that baby!!!

wrecked them a lot.

cossie1600 · 02-28-2011, 12:21 AM

People wreck them now, what is your point. Have you seen the insurance rate on the 370, it is quite high. My Corvette and 911 were cheaper

Super Tanooki · 02-28-2011, 12:26 AM

I've not really ever turned VDC off, yet the car still steps out if I nail it on a curving freeway on-ramp, or spins up if I floor it in first or second in a straight line... I thought VDC was supposed to completely prevent that altogether??

02-27-2011, 09:40 PM	#32 (permalink)
spearfish25 A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: Naples, FL Posts: 4,117 Drives: to work Rep Power: 1856	Frankly, many people THINK they know how to handle a RWD at the limit when they absolutely do not. My track days have humbled me...I've done 7 and realize I'm very much a novice driver in the track world. Driving with VDC off on the track is certainly more risky but it's a controlled environment where you can learn what it's like at the limit. You can be more conservative on dangerous turns (eg walls near the track edge) and more aggressive on safe turns (nothing but flat open field surrounding the track). If you turn off VDC while street driving and something unexpected happens, you'll be very sorry when you wreck your car, wondering if VDC would have saved you. The street is an unpredictable place and you're never going to be 100% alert all the time. On the track, you're much more focused and there aren't as many variables. __________________ 2013 Cadillac V-Wagon, RIP Z

02-27-2011, 09:58 PM	#33 (permalink)
m4a1mustang A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: Northern VA Posts: 55,385 Drives: on two wheels Rep Power: 6962	Well, the bottom line is that none of us need to be driving balls out on the street. At a maximum I will push myself to maybe 80% of what I know I can do. Like you said, the street is not a controlled environment and there are many variables you need to factor in besides your own incompetence behind the wheel in "performance" driving situations. __________________ - Steve Zs & Coffee - Saturdays at 10AM in Fairfax, VA and Columbia, MD (Click the banner!) LIKE us on Facebook!

02-27-2011, 10:04 PM	#34 (permalink)
SPOHN A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Feb 2010 Location: Covington, GA Age: 45 Posts: 14,844 Drives: Waiting on next Z Rep Power: 221	You have to have faith in yourself and your skills. Even if something unexpected happened. You learn and teach youself better skills which in return should play out in unexpected events. Sort of like a fighter who trains and must apply his abilities with every second being unexpected. Being you never know what the other persons doing or thinking. Just like everyday driving around others. Never take driving for granted. __________________

02-27-2011, 10:05 PM	#35 (permalink)
m4a1mustang A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: Northern VA Posts: 55,385 Drives: on two wheels Rep Power: 6962	Well you also learn to be smart and just limit the likelihood of ever having to really test your skills should you do something to screw up. __________________ - Steve Zs & Coffee - Saturdays at 10AM in Fairfax, VA and Columbia, MD (Click the banner!) LIKE us on Facebook!

02-27-2011, 11:19 PM	#42 (permalink)
bigrob126 Base Member Join Date: Jan 2011 Location: Las Vegas NV Posts: 134 Drives: 2009 370Z Sport Auto Rep Power: 14	Heck, what did everyone with a fast car do before traction control was invented? ) !!Drive that baby!!! __________________ Rob

02-27-2011, 11:01 PM	#41 (permalink)
KillerBee370 A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: So Cal baby! Age: 51 Posts: 5,964 Drives: with passion Rep Power: 321	I never drive with it on and I never turn off rev match. It's just the way it is.

02-28-2011, 12:21 AM	#44 (permalink)
cossie1600 A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Jun 2009 Location: californee way Posts: 5,380 Drives: 370, Leaf Rep Power: 30	People wreck them now, what is your point. Have you seen the insurance rate on the 370, it is quite high. My Corvette and 911 were cheaper

02-28-2011, 12:26 AM	#45 (permalink)
Super Tanooki Base Member Join Date: Jul 2010 Location: Las Vegas Posts: 217 Drives: 370Z MT Base/Spt Red Rep Power: 15	I've not really ever turned VDC off, yet the car still steps out if I nail it on a curving freeway on-ramp, or spins up if I floor it in first or second in a straight line... I thought VDC was supposed to completely prevent that altogether??