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It's not a hybrid! It's full electric!

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Nissan ESFlow Electric Sportscar Concept: 10 Facts You Didn't Know

1) The Concept is a Real, Working Car, Not a Mockup

Unlike some concepts you see at auto shows, the ESFlow is a real car. We didn’t see it move, but sources within the company say it can be driven and that all of the controls work. As usual, we didn’t get to drive it on this occasion, but from our time with the car we believe Nissan. Indeed, we heard several whirs and clicks from the car during the day when we were near it as internal fans switched on and off inside the car.



2) ESFlow Only Be a Prototype, But Nissan Serious About Electric Sportscars

Talking to Fançois Bancon, General Manager of Nissan’s Exploratory and Advanced Product Department, it is clear that Nissan’s approach to the ESFlow concept is borne out of practicality and realism.

“One of the things we need the ESFlow to be is credible”, he explained. “We could of course have gone with a much more elaborate concept, but the most important thing to us is that we want an absolute credibility with the execution. First. Credible. Real.”

Bancon wouldn’t be drawn on production plans for the ESFlow, but made it clear that Nissan viewed its sportscar heritage as being essential to the company identity. We think an all-electric production version of the ESFlow would be the next logical step.



3) Development On The ESFlow started Six Years Ago

Nissan has been actively researching electric vehicles for many decades. We’ve known about the 2011 Leaf for some time now, but the ESFlow and other electric vehicles are already being developed within Nissan.

In fact, Nissan started considering an all-electric sportscar six years ago as the company underwent a shared change of direction towards more fuel efficient technologies. The ESFlow is the result.



4) If Made, The ESFlow Would Be Priced Between $34,000 and $40,000

Don’t get excited. Nissan has no firm plans to make the ESFlow. But after some cajoling Bancon told us that should the ESFlow or a similar sportscar make it to market it would have to retain for between $34,000 and $40,000.

“This is not a rich person’s car, or a hippy car, or a car for some tiny niche in southern California...This is what Nissan is about. We make the car and we make it affordable. ($34-40,000) should be the maximum.”



5) The ESFlow is Built With Existing Leaf Technology

Although the Nissan ESFlow has been built from the ground up as a brand new vehicle, the car shares its electric transmission with the 2011 Nissan Leaf.

Inside, the same 24 kilowatt-hour battery pack found in Nissan’s electric family hatchback provides power, while not one but two of Nissan’s Leaf electric motors provide power to the rear wheels.

We’re not sure how much of the ESFlow’s promised performance is in this concept, but rumor has it that the ESFlow certainly moves and drives under its own power. Any sign of the 0-60 in 5 seconds promised? Not so far.



6) Weight is the Key to the ESFlow’s Range

Nissan claims the weight-saving Aluminium chassis, carbon fibre and lightweight components that make up the ESFlow gives it the ability to squeeze a massive 150 miles of range out of the Nissan Leaf’s 24 kilowatt-hour battery pack.

Add to that some careful battery placement (the battery pack is arranged in a T-shape in the middle of the car), an almost textbook front-rear weight distribution and we’re told that the ESFlow is the epitome of a classic sportscar. Just without the roaring V8.



7) The ESFLOW is Not the Next Tesla

While it’s tempting to make parallels between the ESFlow and the Tesla Roadster, Nissan is adamant that the ESFlow is not the next Tesla.

Instead, it wants the ESFlow to be the mainstream electric sportscar of choice, revolutionizing the sportscar market in the same way it hopes the Leaf will revolutionize the family car market.


8) It’s Smaller Than a Nissan 350Z

At just under 149 inches in length, 67 inches wide and 49 inches high, the ESFlow is smaller than its gasoline-powered sibling that gives it so much of its looks. It’s also lighter, although Nissan remains tight-lipped about just how much lighter only commenting “the weight is less than 1,000 kg (2,200 lbs).”



9) The Controls, Not the Seat Move for Driver Adjustment

According to Nissan’s gurus, it is much easier to provide a reliable driving experience regardless of driver size when the controls not the seat, move.

A feature that is becoming increasingly popular in sportscars and luxury brands, the motorized controls provide the optimum driving position and the most comfortable seat.



10) The Charge Ports Are Motorized

With any concept car there’s always at least one feature which wows the audience. For the ESFlow, it has to be the way the car gets ready to charge.

Instead of a bulbous ‘nose’ at the front of the car which lifts up to reveal charging ports as with the Nissan Leaf, the ESFlow uses motorized charging ports.

What do we mean? Pods under the front light cluster gracefully glide out on both sides. One contains the fast charge CHAdeMO connector, the other a standard J1772 unit.




Nissan ESFlow Electric Sportscar Concept: 10 Facts You Didn't Know

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cujo

Looks like the shape of Aston Martin. Pretty cool!!

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Jordo!

A sub 2500 lb sportscar that looks like that would be bitchin, electric or not.

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R1jamn

2005 350z's were being sold in the fall of 2004.

Do the math Mr "I dunno, whatever".

Infiniti released TSB ITB08-002 on 1-10-2008 for Oil Consumption on the 2005-2007 G35 coupe.
Again do the math.

Nissan dragged their butts on this for as long as they could.
They denied it and lied to us.

Nissan spit in our face and you are good with that?

Nissan sale numbers are down for a reason. It's not just the economy.

Nissan Screwed the American consumer.

So Screw You Nissan.

Shamu

Huh?

Nissan Sales Skyrocket 26.3% In December - Infiniti Shifts Into High Gear Up 37.3% For Month - AutoSpies Auto News

Nissan/Infiniti News Room

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b1adesofcha0s

Hey R1jamn, I'm not trying to be mean or anything, but why are you even on this forum? You seem to have nothing, but hate towards Nissan and no interest in the 370Z or any other Nissan vehicles. I understand that you had a bad experience with your G35 and have every right to be mad, I would be too if it happened to me. I just don't understand why your hating on the 370Z for a problem that seems to only affect a very small number of owners.

Also, the sales decrease has more to do with the economy and the increased competition than an "inferior" product from Nissan. When the economy goes down, I would think sales for sports cars like the 370Z are more affected than something like a civic or carry. Sports cars are more of a for fun kind of thing and when people are worried about losing their jobs, buying a $30k fun car is not high on their priority list. In today's market you have much bigger competition than back in the 350Z days. Cars like the new camaro and the genesis coupe weren't around back then. The new mustang is also considered more of a bang for your buck performance car as well. All of these and other cars are eating into the Z's market share. Nissan may need to update the 370Z to compete with all of these new cars and to get back some of that market share.

theDreamer

The oil burning issue still only hit a small number of cars which makes it tough to actually move forward with anything. Even though you had about 20-30% on the forums complaining, a forum only consist of a small percent of owners overall. Nissan did no lie, sounds like you went to a bad dealership which then you should have reported to Nissan, it takes years to determine things like oil burning or other issues and the right solution. I am sure Nissan could have gone in and started to replace engines, but what if it continued? That is more money out of Nissan's pocket, instead they took the time to figure out the problem and fixed it properly.

Look at other companies, they take 5-10 years to determine issues before making a TSB or recall. I just read one for BMW about fuel pump for cars dating back to 07, GM has some dating back to 2000 and before that just came out.

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R1jamn

From your link.

"We finished the year strong, thanks to high demand for bread-and-butter models like Altima, Versa, Sentra and Rogue," said Al Castignetti, vice president and general manager, Nissan division.

End Quote.

The Z dropped 21.4% in sales since last year

The Z did not keep Nissan in the black believe it or not.

KaienZ34

Man does no one on here know how to use the search/advanced search before starting another and another "beat the dead horse" thread??


Please TRY and use the search before posting/asking questions/starting more threads. THX

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R1jamn

Just giving my opinion.
Once bitten ,twice shy.

I have a strong interest in the 370z.
It's slightly lighter (albeit only 95 lbs).
New VVEL for the VQ37VHR engine with a rated 332 hp. (still need more hp).
wheel base 4" shorter. Better rigidity and suspension.
A much better and smoother transmission with the synchro-Rev-Match 6mt. (350z and G35 had a terrible 6mt).

Nissan sales numbers for the Z would be higher today if they had immediately fixed the problem with oil burning/consumption problems within the first year of the failed "Rev-Up" engine.

I look forward to what Nissan reveals in the coming years for the Z.

More HP?
Reduced cabin noise?
Keep the diesel engine in the Benz!
Zero oil burning (and I do mean ZERO)

and so on.............

b1adesofcha0s

I agree with you on the 370Z's need for more HP to compete with other cars. Maybe now that the GT-R is a bit better, Nissan will have no problem doing the same with the 370Z. I don't think the oil burning issue is really affecting many people's decision to buy the car. I am pretty sure most of the people who purchase or consider purchasing the 370Z have never heard of the issue. I didn't learn about it until after I bought my car and joined the forum. The forum only represents a small portion of all 370Z owners and I'm pretty confident that most people who are not part of the forum don't know about this issue.

R1jamn

Customer Relationship/Marketing strategy 101

Nissan would have a much broader repeat consumer buyer base if they addressed the oil burning problem in a timely manner.

There are many reasons a customer or client may leave you, but the ones you will hear most often are:

They felt your pricing was too high or unfair. (Nissan Pricing is fair)
They had an unresolved complaint. (Nissans biggest Problem)
They took a competitors offer. (That's market share for you)
They left because they felt you didn't care. (Again, Nissans biggest Problem)

When you consider that the last two make up the majority of why a client or customer will no longer use your service or buy your products it can be a hard pill to swallow. After all it means they are an inactive client because they felt you didn't care about them and your competitor did.

I felt Nissan didn't care. I'm sure others affected by the oil burning issue share the same grievance and have turned their attention and money to other competitors that care.

KaienZ34

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LOL

I Just want Nissan to build a better reliable sports car.
They have almost nailed it, but not yet.