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Old 02-24-2011, 10:24 PM   #46 (permalink)
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Again, the car is real. The photos of it with the white backdrop are real.

It's simply a concept. However, I wouldn't say it's far-fetched to see Nissan push out a hybrid Z, especially if the Leaf ends up being successful.

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It is, 149 inches in length, 67 inches wide, and 49 inches high.



It weighs two thousand two hundred pounds--2,200 lbs.!
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It is, 149 inches in length, 67 inches wide, and 49 inches high.



It weighs two thousand two hundred pounds--2,200 lbs.!
I'll believe it when I see it. The Tesla weighs in at over 2700 lbs and that's because it starts life as a Lotus Elise frame that weighs about 2000 lbs in gasoline engine form. If Nissan can beat that, it will ber a miracle
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This is from Wiki....take it with a grain of salt, but if these numbers hold true, thats not good signs of a car that will stay around long

Calendar Year U.S. Sales
2009 13,117
2010 10,215


And for the previous Poster about the Camaro sales:
Year Sales
2009 61,648
2010 81,299


Then again the Z is meant for a smaller part of the market, vs some jock wanting pure Hp. I think Nissan does a good job in its particular area!
Nissan crapped on the VQ35DE and the VQ35DE "REV-UP" engines that were installed in the 350z's and the G35's.
These were oil burning pieces of crap.
I purchased a 2007 G35 BRAND NEW with the VQ35DE "REV-UP" engine and the engine was burning oil so bad. I sold it with just under 5,000 miles on it.
I took an $8,000 loss on it when I sold it. It took me 1 1/2 years to sell it.
I never drove it from the time I started the selling process.

Nissan didn't even address the problem with a TSB unitl after 3 years later from the 2005 model year "REV-UP" engine that were in the 2005-2006 350z's
and the 2005-2007 G35's (the 2007 G35 sedan and the 2007 350z had the new VQ35HR engine).

But Nissan was telling dealerships to tell customers with the oil burning problems that it was "NORMAL"............Good God!!

1 quart of oil per 1,000 miles is not normal!!!!

Even the replacement short and long blocks under warranty were burning oil.

People that are enthusiasts and repeat buyers WILL NOT FORGET this phenomenal quandary.

Nissan is still selling and marketing an inferior product.
Have they not realesed a TSB for the oil burning problem with the 370z?
They sure Have.

People don't forget. I sure the hell have not.

I was really hoping the 370z was back in the game for a reliable sports car without the oil burning problem.

Nissan North America will read this and acknowledge that this has hurt their bottom line when they attend board meetings.
The economy has taken a dive, sure. But they crapped on the people that bought their products only to be given the run around regarding oil burning issues. You practically had to retain an attorney to recover your loss.

They didn't wait as long to release the TSB for the oil burning issue on the new 370z. It may appear that they have learned something.
BUT, IT IS STILL A PROBLEM!! So in my view, they are still selling crap.

Hence the low volume sales. PERIOD!!!!!!!

So I took the money from the sale of my G35 and bought a Honda Civic and the rest I put into my Yamaha R1 motorcycle.

Screw You Nissan!!!!!!!!!!!!
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That would turn into a problem for Nissan. Similar to what happened to chevey. The Camaro and vette all had the same motor. People were putting headers and little things on camaros and keeping up with the vettes for half the price so they discontinused them. This is what I have "HEARD". But it is true if u slap some headers and and tune on latter model camaros they stay w the vettes. I feel like if they tt the 370 all u would have to do is tune it and run some more boost and have ALMOST a gtr for again half the price. Just my $.02

I hear this a lot from other Z owners but even if Nissan released a 400hp Z it would still be 120hp less than the GTR. Even with exhaust and a tune you would still be less than the GTR. While the 370z weights less it would still be hard pressed to match the GTR in performance. The GTR is an 11sec car not only because of the motor but because of AWD. There are plenty of people here who have either a supercharger or TT kit on their 370z and still are only running 12's. There is more to the GTR than just 520hp.

The same goes with the Vette. While the Camaro with a few mods can equal or best the vette in a drag race it still won't compare to the Vette in other areas. They are two different cars. Also, the reason GM stopped making the Camaro/firebird wasn't because of Corvette sales, it was simply just responding to poor sports car sales in general. Remember at the end of the 90's the 300zx, RX-7, Supra, 3000GT/Stealth died. The camaro/firebird was just a few years behind. The only car in the price range to really survive was the mustang.

Honestly most people now and days who buy the camaro over the Vette are those who either don't want to spend the money or those who need a back seat and trunk. My girlfriend had a Vette but traded in for the camaro SS 6-speed. The Vette was awesome but she needed something with a backseat and the savings every month on the payment was also a plus. People will buy a TT Z if it ever comes out but not because they don't want the GTR; they would buy the Z because it's cheaper or because it has a real manual tranny or because it's RWD or combination of these. One example, one of our local club members just traded his heavily modded GTR in for a new Nismo 370z. Why? He wanted rwd and a manual tranny.
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I don't see the new Z coming out until 2015, because I don't see what kind of fiscal sense it would make to market a car that barely sells in a market that wants less fueling up.

I'd buy diesel. Not in a Japanese car though.
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Nissan crapped on the VQ35DE and the VQ35DE "REV-UP" engines that were installed in the 350z's and the G35's.
These were oil burning pieces of crap.
I purchased a 2007 G35 BRAND NEW with the VQ35DE "REV-UP" engine and the engine was burning oil so bad. I sold it with just under 5,000 miles on it.
I took an $8,000 loss on it when I sold it. It took me 1 1/2 years to sell it.
I never drove it from the time I started the selling process.

Nissan didn't even address the problem with a TSB unitl after 3 years later from the 2005 model year "REV-UP" engine that were in the 2005-2006 350z's
and the 2005-2007 G35's (the 2007 G35 sedan and the 2007 350z had the new VQ35HR engine).

But Nissan was telling dealerships to tell customers with the oil burning problems that it was "NORMAL"............Good God!!

1 quart of oil per 1,000 miles is not normal!!!!

Even the replacement short and long blocks under warranty were burning oil.

People that are enthusiasts and repeat buyers WILL NOT FORGET this phenomenal quandary.

Nissan is still selling and marketing an inferior product.
Have they not realesed a TSB for the oil burning problem with the 370z?
They sure Have.

People don't forget. I sure the hell have not.

I was really hoping the 370z was back in the game for a reliable sports car without the oil burning problem.

Nissan North America will read this and acknowledge that this has hurt their bottom line when they attend board meetings.
The economy has taken a dive, sure. But they crapped on the people that bought their products only to be given the run around regarding oil burning issues. You practically had to retain an attorney to recover your loss.

They didn't wait as long to release the TSB for the oil burning issue on the new 370z. It may appear that they have learned something.
BUT, IT IS STILL A PROBLEM!! So in my view, they are still selling crap.

Hence the low volume sales. PERIOD!!!!!!!

So I took the money from the sale of my G35 and bought a Honda Civic and the rest I put into my Yamaha R1 motorcycle.

Screw You Nissan!!!!!!!!!!!!
oh yeh that is because why there are so little people with the problem.

I own a 2009. no oil burning problems here.
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That would turn into a problem for Nissan. Similar to what happened to chevey. The Camaro and vette all had the same motor. People were putting headers and little things on camaros and keeping up with the vettes for half the price so they discontinused them. This is what I have "HEARD". But it is true if u slap some headers and and tune on latter model camaros they stay w the vettes. I feel like if they tt the 370 all u would have to do is tune it and run some more boost and have ALMOST a gtr for again half the price. Just my $.02
SO what your saying is, if you want the GTR but cant afford one, go 370 TT I like your train of thought! Your correct though, save 40grand or something, I cant argue with that reasoning.
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Nice, but did they address the cabin noise issue?
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But Nissan was telling dealerships to tell customers with the oil burning problems that it was "NORMAL"............Good God!!
1 quart of oil per 1,000 miles is not normal!!!!
Even the replacement short and long blocks under warranty were burning oil.
People that are enthusiasts and repeat buyers WILL NOT FORGET this phenomenal quandary.
Erm, I owned a '06 350z with a revup. Drove it for close to 120k miles before selling it. The first engine burned oil. I went through the TSB replacement guidelines and received a new engine at 59k miles. Not a drop of oil burned after that.

You're correct that they dropped the ball with the revup engine. However, mistakes happen, and as long as it's covered by warranty, I have no problem with them fixing it and me enjoying the vehicle. You need to relax.
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oh yeh that is because why there are so little people with the problem.

I own a 2009. no oil burning problems here.
If so few had the oil burning problems then Nissan would not have issued a TSB.

Nissan issued the TSB because there are significant amounts of engines with the oil burning problem in the 370z.

Think about it.

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Erm, I owned a '06 350z with a revup. Drove it for close to 120k miles before selling it. The first engine burned oil. I went through the TSB replacement guidelines and received a new engine at 59k miles. Not a drop of oil burned after that.

You're correct that they dropped the ball with the revup engine. However, mistakes happen, and as long as it's covered by warranty, I have no problem with them fixing it and me enjoying the vehicle. You need to relax.
This was simply not a mistake my friend. Nissan tried to deny a problem that truly existed. Nissan did not come forth until three years later.
Nissan dragged their feet on this for as long as they could hoping warranties would be up.

Nissan was denying a problem that existed. Nissan lied to the American consumer that their engines were bullet proof. Dealerships would fill the oil up and tell the owner to come back after 1000 miles for an oil inspection.
When owners came back the dealerships would simply put more oil in and tell the customer that everything was good and that their engines weren't burning oil.

Thousands of engines were bad. Nissan = Filthy stinking liars.

Some people have had good luck. Good for them.
But Nissan kept producing engines that they new were not going to last.
Nissan Corp spit on the American consumer and treated us like consumable trash and laughed all the way to the bank.

This I will not forget or forgive. The problem still exists with the 370z and the G37.

This is not a coincidence.
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This was simply not a mistake my friend. Nissan tried to deny a problem that truly existed. Nissan did not come forth until three years later.
Nissan dragged their feet on this for as long as they could hoping warranties would be up.
They released the TSB 11/27/07. I dunno, whatever.
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I actually like the concept art. The powertrain I'm not too sure about. I'm not a big fan of hybrids, mainly because I don't think the ends justify the means.
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