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ddvette9 02-20-2011 09:21 AM

Do you believe in factory freaks
 
if you know what a factory freak is then comment. its basically a car that gets turned out and is better than a bunch of others for "freakish reasons". My friend swears by it.

Basically you could stick two stoc z's with the same driver and one would be faster bc its a "factory freak".

The dyno numbers are so skewed some people on here claiming such high numbers have to have freaks from the factory.

Any experience or comments.....I swear I got the runt of the litter LOL

Vegitto-kun 02-20-2011 09:50 AM

well there will always be slight differences between engine but its not like one Z is going to be 40 HP more powerfull.

the only ones that I can recall have differences are hand built engine like the GT-R's engine.

red6spd 02-20-2011 09:53 AM

Yea factory freak cars are really only going to be on hand built cars

wheee! 02-20-2011 10:00 AM

The ECU probably kills any individualism anyways.....

USMCASA 02-20-2011 10:16 AM

every 1000th car gets a free port and polish from the factory lol

kenchan 02-20-2011 10:53 AM

Yah tolerance in spec. This is normal.

CBRich 02-20-2011 10:58 AM

I'm with wheee. Every ECU is the exact same. And it determines what's going on.

Nitrouz 02-20-2011 11:46 AM

It used to happen a lot more. Since the factory tolerances are getting tighter and tighter, it's very unlikely these days. Not saying it wont' happen, just very unlikely.

Nikon FM 02-20-2011 11:54 AM

Iv'e talked with two different tuners and their comments are that each 370Z/VQ is different. How that plays with the "factory tolerance" is a good question.

I have an early 09 and feel like my car is special or per the OP a freak. :tup:

Nitrouz 02-20-2011 11:56 AM

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Originally Posted by Nikon FM (Post 949926)
Iv'e talked with two different tuners and their comments are that each 370Z/VQ is different. How that plays with the "factory tolerance" is a good question.

I have an early 09 and feel like my car is special or per the OP a freak. :tup:

Not fair......I think they ran out of the 370Z engine internals and stuck a few Versa pistons in my VQ.....:(

Nikon FM 02-20-2011 11:58 AM

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Originally Posted by Nitrouz (Post 949933)
Not fair......I think they ran out of the 370Z engine internals and stuck a few Versa pistons in my VQ.....:(

Gotta find that good tuner I guess :tup:

christian370z 02-20-2011 12:25 PM

I don't believe that there are "freaks," I just think that they were on some optimistic dynos.

Red__Zed 02-20-2011 12:35 PM

There certainly can be factory freaks. One of my friends had an S2k that would consistently dyno 30-40 more whp than others, when they were run back to back on the same dyno. It is much less common due to tight factory specs, but it does happen.

Most people enjoy claiming they have a "factory freak" after running on a dyno that overrates power, but they're actually very rare.

BrianMSmith 02-20-2011 01:08 PM

maybe two percent variation in power at the most. Test/dyno/operator can make a bigger difference than that. Cars are engineered and manufactured to very high controls and repeatability these days, even "hand built" Italian cars. It's a matter of economics.

BrianMSmith 02-20-2011 01:11 PM

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Originally Posted by Red__Zed (Post 949982)
There certainly can be factory freaks. One of my friends had an S2k that would consistently dyno 30-40 more whp than others, when they were run back to back on the same dyno. It is much less common due to tight factory specs, but it does happen.

your friend's car was modified. This is simply not possible according to physics. Do the math on BMEP and you'll see that to produce 20%+ more power, something rather drastic is required - displacement, forced air, nitrous, head modification, etc.


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