6M/T vs. 7A/T race with consumer advice

Mt Tam I am · 02-20-2011, 10:17 AM

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Originally Posted by red6spd

Didnt AT first start finding there ways in sports car to appeal to women??? Ouch I'm going to make alot of people mad LOL... When it comes to a car like the Z a stick is the only way to go I'm sorry. Then if you have an Auto and you put an exhaust on it, eww I hate that sound inbetween gear changes.

So if we buy AT's are we turning the Z into a chicks car? They already sell Boxters.

runner42 · 02-20-2011, 10:24 AM

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Originally Posted by tranceformer

Oh boy another MT vs AT thread!

I'll guess I'll stir the pot a bit and put in my 2 cents.

6MT 370Z = more fun, takes more skill to drive fast
7AT 370Z = seems to be quicker with the average driver

IIRC, #1, #3, #4, #8 spots are 6MT.

Nissan 370Z 1/4 Mile Drag Racing Timeslips - DragTimes.com

This is not MT vs AT thread. This thread is about difficulties of switching to manual Z from german cars with better manual transmissions. I don't say Z's MT or AT is better. I share my experience that for few of us Z's MT is just not feeling right.

mick · 02-20-2011, 10:33 AM

i remember watching some tv show years ago, and at the time automatic trans were not as advanced as today. they asked a race driver which would fare better in the real world (manual or automatic). the race driver said automatic. he said it would take the skills of a race driver to offset the differences. so, i was not surprised to see the results.

Cmike2780 · 02-20-2011, 10:38 AM

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Originally Posted by mick

i remember watching some tv show years ago, and at the time automatic trans were not as advanced as today. they asked a race driver which would fare better in the real world (manual or automatic). the race driver said automatic. he said it would take the skills of a race driver to offset the differences. so, i was not surprised to see the results.

True, but you can't gain skill driving an automatic.

Vegitto-kun · 02-20-2011, 10:42 AM

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Originally Posted by red6spd

Didnt AT first start finding there ways in sports car to appeal to women??? Ouch I'm going to make alot of people mad LOL... When it comes to a car like the Z a stick is the only way to go I'm sorry. Then if you have an Auto and you put an exhaust on it, eww I hate that sound inbetween gear changes.

what sound between gear changes. never noticed anything as the change is so quick that its pretty much a constant acceleration noise.

MT gear changes is ROAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAR....silence. ROAAAAAAAAAAAR.

AT is like ROOOOOOOOOOAAAAAAAAAAAR.ROAAAAAAAAAAAAAR.

or something like that.

runner42 · 02-20-2011, 10:43 AM

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Originally Posted by Cmike2780

True, but you can't gain skill driving an automatic.

So should I sell my other cars just to focus on improving skills with Z's manual?

I don't think so.

Vegitto-kun · 02-20-2011, 10:47 AM

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Originally Posted by Cmike2780

True, but you can't gain skill driving an automatic.

What skill?

MT fanatics are so funny.

you do know that the only difference is how you change gear.

MT = clutch and move stick.
AT = pedal click.

its not because your driving a AT that you automatically stop learning how to drive a car.

My next car will be a MT but the Z changed my opinion about ATs.

red6spd · 02-20-2011, 10:48 AM

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Originally Posted by Vegitto-kun

what sound between gear changes. never noticed anything as the change is so quick that its pretty much a constant acceleration noise.

MT gear changes is ROAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAR....silence. ROAAAAAAAAAAAR.

AT is like ROOOOOOOOOOAAAAAAAAAAAR.ROAAAAAAAAAAAAAR.

or something like that.

Stop it, its not a dual clutch tranny its not that fast, you still get that lazy slip sound into the next gear, sorry if I upset anyone but I always compare automatic trannys with a person who is maybe a little slow.

mick · 02-20-2011, 10:48 AM

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Originally Posted by runner42

So should I sell my other cars just to focus on improving skills with Z's manual?

I don't think so.

nah. with today's automatics, even a race car drivers can't offset the difference
the other day, i watched 'battle of the supercars' and the host asked the race driver what gear he was in when he passed the other guy. the race driver said 'i don't know, the car was doing the shifting and it was doing much faster than me' (he was driving a porsche 911 twin turbo

Vegitto-kun · 02-20-2011, 10:53 AM

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Originally Posted by red6spd

Stop it, its not a dual clutch tranny its not that fast, you still get that lazy slip sound into the next gear, sorry if I upset anyone but I always compare automatic trannys with a person who is maybe a little slow.

oh yes that sound that you hear for about 0,4/0,5 seconds.

red6spd · 02-20-2011, 10:56 AM

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Originally Posted by Vegitto-kun

oh yes that sound that you hear for about 0,4/0,5 seconds.

Thats enough time for me to say ouch an auto womp womp

Vegitto-kun · 02-20-2011, 11:00 AM

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Originally Posted by red6spd

Thats enough time for me to say ouch an auto womp womp

stop bullshitting mate

MT guys just want to use every single little thing to diss on us AT guys.

complaining about a sound you hear for less than a half second

MT guys are always so anti-AT instantly calling us slush boxes and how we cant drive.

We ATs are a peaceful group.

Cmike2780 · 02-20-2011, 11:05 AM

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Originally Posted by Vegitto-kun

What skill?

MT fanatics are so funny.

you do know that the only difference is how you change gear.

MT = clutch and move stick.
AT = pedal click.

its not because your driving a AT that you automatically stop learning how to drive a car.

My next car will be a MT but the Z changed my opinion about ATs.

Easy there buddy. I just meant you can't improve on how to drive a manual by driving an automatic. I don't mean driving techniques obviously. You can't improve on something without access to it. I have nothing against automatics. I just prefer the MT. And yes I do know the difference.

Vegitto-kun · 02-20-2011, 11:15 AM

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Originally Posted by Cmike2780

Easy there buddy. I just meant you can't improve on how to drive a manual by driving an automatic. I don't mean driving techniques obviously. You can't improve on something without access to it. I have nothing against automatics. I just prefer the MT. And yes I do know the difference.

well its pretty logic that you cant improve MT driving skills with an AT

well I still drive MT pretty much every day of the week so I don't have to worry about my skills getting rusty.

Ztoon · 02-20-2011, 11:17 AM

I've always driven a manual until this car. 7a/t, no regrets.

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mick Track Member Join Date: Jan 2010 Location: California Posts: 903 Drives: Used to drive a 370z Rep Power: 16	i remember watching some tv show years ago, and at the time automatic trans were not as advanced as today. they asked a race driver which would fare better in the real world (manual or automatic). the race driver said automatic. he said it would take the skills of a race driver to offset the differences. so, i was not surprised to see the results.