new to Z's help please
 

Hey everyone, I finally have money to buy or consider buying a Z.
Sadly has to be used though, so im looking into a 2009 370z 6peed Touring with NAVI. About close to 8,000 miles.

I havent had any Z's or nissans b4 so i dont know the pricing for the car.
They asked for 30k
I live in nyc so we get snow here in the winters if this changes anything,

Im wondering how much i could haggle down the price for, what would your recommendations on a good price i should settle for.

I do plan on bringing cash with me to the dealer ship to help the price, but i dont know whats a rip off and whats a steal. Your input would be appreciated thanks:tup:

1) It's not a good city driving car. Stop and go traffic in NYC in a 6 speed manual will test your patience.

2) You will need to put it in a garage all winter in NYC. Even with snow tires, it's a light RWD sports car.

3) 30k seems awfully high for that package. Even in pristine condition, I'd say 25 or maybe even 20 would be a fair price depending on what else the seller has done to it.

4) As always, before you even dream of making an offer, have your mechanic take a hard look at it.

5) The car is pure sex and it's by far the most fun I've ever had in a vehicle.

Actually, I take that back. For NYC and adjacent zip codes, 30k seems to be about right although I see a few for 28kish.

kinda pricey, i will sell you my base + sport for that price :0

Yeah that looks like a dealer resell price. Kelly blue book should give you a pretty good idea. It even lets you price out options etc.

Get a STi or a Evo.

30k is a little high imo. I'd say 26k is reasonable price. And Z is just pure awesome. No doubt one of the best sports car ever made. You'll be fine on the road as long as you have snow tires on. And yes, as the previous comment stated, have a professional check on the car. Lots of fraud out there these days

Since you aqre in the NYC area, talk to joe at Koeppel if you can. Guy seems to be able to work wonders with Z's.

I did some online searching for used Z's recently (just to see what cars like mine are going for), and found the typical range for a 2009 touring to be 26-32k within a 200 mile radius from NE PA (which would include the OP's area). I don't think any I looked at had the navi, but 30k seems like a good starting place for a negotiation down to 27 or 28k.

You don't need to garage the Z all winter (I've been able to drive mine once a week), but definitely recommend a second set of tires (I'm running Hankook Ventus all season performance right now, but even they can't handle a little snow or ice). A daily driver for bad weather is ideal.

I don't know why everyone is knocking the price, that sound about right for Touring + Nav in your area. It's a good deal, and not a great one per se, but I don't think there is anything wrong with it if it is what you want.

Carmax offered me 29.7 for mine with 4k miles, so I don't think you'd be doing too bad on that buy, again presuming the T+S is what you want.

You could get a used base or base + sport for that price though.

Also, depending on what your winter driving plans are, you may want to look at something better suited for year round driving.

Lol expand on your thoughts please

Ah i see, but still that was starting price, i think i could maybe get it down another 1-2k, but a year round round car?
I do have one other car under my list to look at, happens to be a Evo X, one reason i dont really want to buy it is the warranty is horrible compared to Nissan's, and the car itslef is pretty high maintenance, is it the same on the Z too maintence wise?

I think you should be able to get a good price for the car, I'd work to get it at 28k.

As far as maintenance, it depends on what you are used to. I don't think the Z is that bad, but the EVO isn't much worse.
I'd also take a look at the STI, or the WRX if maintenance is more of a concern. Not that you couldn't drive the Z year round, I just wouldn't want to, both from a safety and a car-care perspective. Subaru's warranty is pretty solid as well.

ah I see, Yeah i understand why people wouldnt drive it in the winter, especially since over at NYC the winters now the snow are getting much heavier and much more frequent.

I def would take a look into the STI, esp the new 4 door sedans :tup:
Stock for stock im guessing Subaru warranty is better, since i plan on modding down the road for either car

Both companies are kind of hit-or-miss if you mod the car. In general, you can get away with minor stuff on both and still get stuff covered. On the Subaru, you'll see more of a gain outta small mods.

Throwing an AP and a catback actually adds significant power, vs similar mods on a Z.

Then i guess its down to a drivers feel of each car, time to schedule some test drives from both companys.

I noticed that on the Z's for bolt on's it dosent give hudge gains unless FI, is the Z expensive to mod as well?

you are going to have a tough time getting a good test drive in this weather with the z

1 - I wouldnt list winter as a reason to not get the Z. I live in NY and have driven the car every day this winter even with the crazy amount of snow we have gotten, granted snow tires are a must. Besides, if its city driving you are doing odds are you arent traveling far, NYC is relatively flat, and theres always public transportation on really bad days. Only deterrant might be that winter will take a toll on the exterior of the car.

2- For 30k Id prefer to get a new base + sports package rather than touring just for a navi system. +1 on contacting Koeppel Nissan.

Good luck!

Like everything, it's all relative. Comparatively, the Z is pricey to mod. Relative to other, nicer cars, it's pretty cheap. The lack of an established aftermarket, and the fact that it is a fairly maxed out motor limit the modification options.

I have to test drive these cars, i already scheduled one for Monday for the 370z and Evo, hopefully the way they drive will determine my decision.

Anything i should be looking out for when test driving?
I know for the evo it is noisy cabin and clutch slip.

Big honkin' blind spots. The ones on the side of the car are fixed by flaring your mirrors out. But the one that gets me is where the B-pillar and p-side seat headrest are. Makes it tough to back out of a driveway, parking spot, etc. Good luck with your test drives!