Will the 370Z ever get a Dual Clutch trans??

enderokc · 04-02-2009, 02:30 PM

Just wondering if you guys think the 370Z will ever get a dual clutch transmission??

Musashi · 04-02-2009, 02:33 PM

yup just like the GT-R...

ChrisSlicks · 04-02-2009, 02:42 PM

Too expensive right now, would price it out of the segment.

Maybe in a few years if they are optimize the design to reduce cost they might be as cheap as a regular automatic.

zman1910 · 04-02-2009, 02:43 PM

Probably in the next Z car or close to the end of the 370 cycle......I wouldn't count on it any sooner than that

theDreamer · 04-02-2009, 02:45 PM

Never.

Probably once the next big thing comes out and makes dual clutch systems cheaper.

enderokc · 04-02-2009, 03:07 PM

I ask because they must be pretty cheap since they are putting them in VWs now and that is a very good trans!! its makes me wonder why they didnt put one in it to begin with instead of designing a new 7 speed auto.

Lug · 04-02-2009, 03:41 PM

It's my guess for the big 2012 tune up along with better breathing/direct fuel injection for 350+ horsepower.

o0javi0o · 04-02-2009, 04:16 PM

I can guess that maybe in the next 370z gen, could be a possibility of that transmission.
Also I can think that they maybe upgrade the Z to a new VK Engine.

jbbrann · 04-02-2009, 04:33 PM

I guess they would consider it if Nissan really considers the 370Z competition for the Cayman, now that the Cayman is getting PDK.

tbonesteak · 04-02-2009, 06:37 PM

but cayman costs double a 370z.

2bits · 04-02-2009, 11:57 PM

Dual clutch trannies are a bit heavier, relatively expensive, and shift quickly. Also, they have lower driveline parasitic loss comparable to manuals, better than hydraulic autos.

The newer autos from Nissan, BMW, and others have locking torque converters which largely eliminate the driveline loss advantage. They also shift faster than before, but still not quite as fast as dual clutch.

I'm trying to be objective here and not let the fact that I have a 7AT color my perception, but I think Nissan is being pragmatic. A dual clutch would make a Z (a little bit) heavier and more expensive, while improving shift speed a small amount. There's also some prestige in having dual-clutch. This makes sense in a $75k car like the GTR, but not so much in a $35k Z. Nissan could have put a dual clutch in the 370z, but they went with the 7AT. Their reasoning isn't likely to change until the next rev.

04-02-2009, 02:30 PM	#1 (permalink)
enderokc Base Member Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: Oklahoma City Posts: 5 Drives: 05 RX-8 Rep Power: 16	Will the 370Z ever get a Dual Clutch trans?? Just wondering if you guys think the 370Z will ever get a dual clutch transmission??

04-02-2009, 02:45 PM	#5 (permalink)
theDreamer A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: Texas Posts: 30,879 Drives: 370z Rep Power: 4210	Never. Probably once the next big thing comes out and makes dual clutch systems cheaper. __________________ theDreamer's Z // Fast Intentions // Uprev // GTM // HKS // TEIN theDreamer's Silvia // URAS // GREDDY Houston Zs // Facebook // Twitter // Instagram

04-02-2009, 03:41 PM	#7 (permalink)
Lug A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Dec 2008 Location: Texas Posts: 1,926 Drives: 2006 350Z Rep Power: 20	It's my guess for the big 2012 tune up along with better breathing/direct fuel injection for 350+ horsepower. __________________ keep Chubbs in your pocket - Chubbs

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Musashi Enthusiast Member Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: New Jersey Posts: 357 Drives: 09 370Z 6speed Rep Power: 606	yup just like the GT-R...

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ChrisSlicks A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: North East Posts: 6,203 Drives: 09 370Z Sport M6 Rep Power: 653	Too expensive right now, would price it out of the segment. Maybe in a few years if they are optimize the design to reduce cost they might be as cheap as a regular automatic.

04-02-2009, 02:43 PM	#4 (permalink)
zman1910 Enthusiast Member Join Date: Nov 2008 Location: FL Posts: 361 Drives: 2011 Audi S4 Rep Power: 429	Probably in the next Z car or close to the end of the 370 cycle......I wouldn't count on it any sooner than that

04-02-2009, 03:07 PM	#6 (permalink)
enderokc Base Member Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: Oklahoma City Posts: 5 Drives: 05 RX-8 Rep Power: 16	I ask because they must be pretty cheap since they are putting them in VWs now and that is a very good trans!! its makes me wonder why they didnt put one in it to begin with instead of designing a new 7 speed auto.

04-02-2009, 04:16 PM	#8 (permalink)
o0javi0o Enthusiast Member Join Date: Nov 2008 Location: Dallas, Tx Posts: 458 Drives: '15 ///M3 6MT Rep Power: 17	I can guess that maybe in the next 370z gen, could be a possibility of that transmission. Also I can think that they maybe upgrade the Z to a new VK Engine.

04-02-2009, 04:33 PM	#9 (permalink)
jbbrann Base Member Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: Arkansas Posts: 68 Drives: 09 370Z Sport Rep Power: 280	I guess they would consider it if Nissan really considers the 370Z competition for the Cayman, now that the Cayman is getting PDK.

04-02-2009, 06:37 PM	#10 (permalink)
tbonesteak Track Member Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: Socal Posts: 914 Drives: MY09 MB 6MT Rep Power: 375	but cayman costs double a 370z.

04-02-2009, 11:57 PM	#11 (permalink)
2bits Base Member Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: Seattle Posts: 118 Drives: 09 370Z Blk Sp 7AT Rep Power: 16	Dual clutch trannies are a bit heavier, relatively expensive, and shift quickly. Also, they have lower driveline parasitic loss comparable to manuals, better than hydraulic autos. The newer autos from Nissan, BMW, and others have locking torque converters which largely eliminate the driveline loss advantage. They also shift faster than before, but still not quite as fast as dual clutch. I'm trying to be objective here and not let the fact that I have a 7AT color my perception, but I think Nissan is being pragmatic. A dual clutch would make a Z (a little bit) heavier and more expensive, while improving shift speed a small amount. There's also some prestige in having dual-clutch. This makes sense in a $75k car like the GTR, but not so much in a $35k Z. Nissan could have put a dual clutch in the 370z, but they went with the 7AT. Their reasoning isn't likely to change until the next rev.