370z vs ferrari f430

geohartanto · 02-13-2011, 12:49 PM

and speaking of twin turbos. In the GTM website there were 3 types of TT kits listed. One says (tuner), then (turn key), then (set up). what are the differences for all of these. And also they are cheaper than the TT from the Greddy website. So i assume GTM is the better way to go ?

b1adesofcha0s · 02-13-2011, 01:32 PM

Also a bit of a noob, how will a TT kit affect the driveability (may have just made this word up

) of a 370Z with the 7 speed auto?

Also, I think with the amount of money you would spend to try and make the 370Z faster than the f430, you could probably trade/sell it and buy the 2012 GT-R, which is probably faster than the Ferrari 458 as well.

dad · 02-13-2011, 01:39 PM

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Originally Posted by geohartanto

hello im the ultimate noob

how much worth of mods does it take for a z to beat a ferrari f430 in say 0-100mph?

. is a turbocharger enough?

thanks, nitenite

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6spd · 02-13-2011, 01:40 PM

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Shamu · 02-13-2011, 01:52 PM

I disagree. It think a 370z could be developed into a 430 beater. Just would be very expensive. Extensive lightening, lots of suspension work, huge tires, and ground up turbo build. But your talking $1ooK of work.

My $15k 200 hp Porsche 914 race car had opportunity to chase a 430 all day at Laguna SECA Granted driver wasnt pushing the car to limits but chase footage is still classic. I love it when he dusts me in straights only to have me reel him back in in the more technical sections.

YouTube - 2480cc Porsche 914-6 vs 500 HP Ferrari F430 - Laguna Seca
YouTube - 2480cc Porsche 914-6 vs 500 HP Ferrari F430 - Laguna Seca

Cmike2780 · 02-13-2011, 02:01 PM

Performance wise, it's more than possible. A lot of what makes a Ferrari so special is the attention to detail and craftsmanship. The thing is, by the time you throw enough mods on the z to match the Ferrari, it will have cost you nearly the same amount considering all the parts and r&d involved.

Brazilbro · 02-13-2011, 02:55 PM

After reviewing top gear I found that the F430 had a lap time of 122.9 The Z had a time of 127.5. A difference of only 4.6 sec. I think the Z with upgraded everything could perform at the level of the f430

SPOHN · 02-13-2011, 03:01 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Cmike2780

Performance wise, it's more than possible. A lot of what makes a Ferrari so special is the attention to detail and craftsmanship. The thing is, by the time you throw enough mods on the z to match the Ferrari, it will have cost you nearly the same amount considering all the parts and r&d involved.

performance wise.

mick · 02-13-2011, 03:38 PM

(for less than the price of a Nissan GT-R) on paper at least, the new camaro ZL1 should be able to handle the Ferrari F430, but who knows? there is no performance data for the ZL1 at this time.

Ferrari F430
4.3L V8
483 hp

Camaro ZL1
6.2L V8
550 hp

onzedge · 02-13-2011, 03:39 PM

The OP's question is interesting, though somewhat irrelevant. They are absolutely different cars, built to different standards and targeting to absolutely different markets. For not too much money (relatively speaking compared to an F430;s cost) one could build a early 70's Camaro or Chevelle to beat the Ferrari in 0 to 100. So what?

Attempting to consider the difference between a built (no money limit) 370z and an F430 reminds me of the people who ponder whether Capt. Kirk or Capt. Picard would win in a fight. Interesting (for dorks), but pointless.

Have a great day.

6spd · 02-13-2011, 03:42 PM

just buy a gtr and be done

/thread!

dad · 02-13-2011, 03:51 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mick

(for less than the price of a Nissan GT-R) on paper at least, the new camaro ZL1 should be able to handle the Ferrari F430, but who knows? there is no performance data for the ZL1 at this time.

Ferrari F430
4.3L V8
483 hp

Camaro ZL1
6.2L V8
550 hp

That Camaro has 550( I think that right, it's up there) torque also. My money would be on the Chevy.

CrownR426 · 02-13-2011, 03:58 PM

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Cmike2780 · 02-13-2011, 06:53 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by onzedge

The OP's question is interesting, though somewhat irrelevant. They are absolutely different cars, built to different standards and targeting to absolutely different markets. For not too much money (relatively speaking compared to an F430;s cost) one could build a early 70's Camaro or Chevelle to beat the Ferrari in 0 to 100. So what?

Attempting to consider the difference between a built (no money limit) 370z and an F430 reminds me of the people who ponder whether Capt' Kirk or Capt. Picard would win in a fight. Interesting, but pointless.

Have a great day.

Very true. It's kind of like comparing the F430 to the Veyron. Exclusivity also has a premium.

christian370z · 02-13-2011, 07:23 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Cmike2780

Very true. It's kind of like comparing the F430 to the Veyron. Exclusivity also has a premium.

Yup, and no matter what you do the Z will never feel like a Ferrari (if that is also a criteria).

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Brazilbro A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: Indianapolis, IN Posts: 1,131 Drives: Juke/240Z Rep Power: 848	After reviewing top gear I found that the F430 had a lap time of 122.9 The Z had a time of 127.5. A difference of only 4.6 sec. I think the Z with upgraded everything could perform at the level of the f430 __________________ Juke AWD/240Z SR20 08 Evo 10(Stage 2) SOLD Fastest Sport 6spd 370Z 11.8 @126.5SOLD

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onzedge A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Apr 2010 Location: Battle Lake MN Age: 64 Posts: 183,964 Drives: 370Z 240Z Rep Power: 2684736	The OP's question is interesting, though somewhat irrelevant. They are absolutely different cars, built to different standards and targeting to absolutely different markets. For not too much money (relatively speaking compared to an F430;s cost) one could build a early 70's Camaro or Chevelle to beat the Ferrari in 0 to 100. So what? Attempting to consider the difference between a built (no money limit) 370z and an F430 reminds me of the people who ponder whether Capt. Kirk or Capt. Picard would win in a fight. Interesting (for dorks), but pointless. Have a great day. __________________ Koni\|Swift\|Michelin\|Motordyne\|Berk\|RJM Performance\|Gates\|SPL\|Motul\|Technafit\|Ate Super Blue\|Hawk Tommy Kaira\|Momo\|Optima\|Hella\|Hotchkis\|Red Line\|ZSpeed\|Stillen\|B&M\|H&R Last edited by onzedge; 02-13-2011 at 07:22 PM.

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02-13-2011, 12:49 PM	#16 (permalink)
geohartanto Base Member Join Date: Sep 2010 Location: Boston Posts: 45 Drives: 370z Stillen SC Rep Power: 15	and speaking of twin turbos. In the GTM website there were 3 types of TT kits listed. One says (tuner), then (turn key), then (set up). what are the differences for all of these. And also they are cheaper than the TT from the Greddy website. So i assume GTM is the better way to go ?

02-13-2011, 01:32 PM	#17 (permalink)
b1adesofcha0s A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Jan 2011 Location: MD Posts: 40,963 Drives: HypeTrain Choo Choo! Rep Power: 141	Also a bit of a noob, how will a TT kit affect the driveability (may have just made this word up ) of a 370Z with the 7 speed auto? Also, I think with the amount of money you would spend to try and make the 370Z faster than the f430, you could probably trade/sell it and buy the 2012 GT-R, which is probably faster than the Ferrari 458 as well.

02-13-2011, 01:52 PM	#20 (permalink)
Shamu A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Jan 2011 Location: Nor Cal Posts: 1,059 Drives: 370Z Racecar Rep Power: 19	I disagree. It think a 370z could be developed into a 430 beater. Just would be very expensive. Extensive lightening, lots of suspension work, huge tires, and ground up turbo build. But your talking $1ooK of work. My $15k 200 hp Porsche 914 race car had opportunity to chase a 430 all day at Laguna SECA Granted driver wasnt pushing the car to limits but chase footage is still classic. I love it when he dusts me in straights only to have me reel him back in in the more technical sections. YouTube - 2480cc Porsche 914-6 vs 500 HP Ferrari F430 - Laguna Seca YouTube - 2480cc Porsche 914-6 vs 500 HP Ferrari F430 - Laguna Seca

02-13-2011, 03:38 PM	#24 (permalink)
mick Track Member Join Date: Jan 2010 Location: California Posts: 903 Drives: Used to drive a 370z Rep Power: 16	(for less than the price of a Nissan GT-R) on paper at least, the new camaro ZL1 should be able to handle the Ferrari F430, but who knows? there is no performance data for the ZL1 at this time. Ferrari F430 4.3L V8 483 hp Camaro ZL1 6.2L V8 550 hp

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