370z vs ferrari f430

geohartanto · 02-13-2011, 03:30 AM

hello im the ultimate noob

how much worth of mods does it take for a z to beat a ferrari f430 in say 0-100mph?

. is a turbocharger enough?

thanks, nitenite

CrownR426 · 02-13-2011, 04:20 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by geohartanto

hello im the ultimate noob

how much worth of mods does it take for a z to beat a ferrari f430 in say 0-100mph?

. is a turbocharger enough?

thanks, nitenite

Yes. Twin Turbo Kit to be exact.

And since you beef up your power you will have to add some more meat in the rears and front as well.
Get stiffer with coilovers and upgrade your clutch.
Get a short shiter as well.
Brake pads, stainless steel braklines, rotors.

AK370Z · 02-13-2011, 04:31 AM

Did you just say Ferrari F430? The answer is NEVER! You Z will NEVER outperform a Ferrari F430. Please never throw such comparisons. You comparing 370Z to a Ferrari F430 is like comparing Chevy Cobalt to a Corvette ZR1!!!

As for making your car FASTER, there's plenty of different approaches. The bigger questions are "How much do you want to spend?" and "How Fast do you want to make it?" Someone who is a car noob (is this your first sports coupe?), I'd stick with Exhaust/intake/tune/better braking (gripper pad) etc. 332 HP should be plenty of power. Many of us Z owners are VERY happy with the stock power and handling. Just my

of course.

Forrest · 02-13-2011, 05:07 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by AK370Z

Did you just say Ferrari F430? The answer is NEVER! You Z will NEVER outperform a Ferrari F430. Please never throw such comparisons. You comparing 370Z to a Ferrari F430 is like comparing Chevy Cobalt to a Corvette ZR1!!!

As for making your car FASTER, there's plenty of different approaches. The bigger questions are "How much do you want to spend?" and "How Fast do you want to make it?" Someone who is a car noob (is this your first sports coupe?), I'd stick with Exhaust/intake/tune/better braking (gripper pad) etc. 332 HP should be plenty of power. Many of us Z owners are VERY happy with the stock power and handling. Just my

of course.

I would beg to differ on your opinion. I believe any car can be made "nice". I am sure if some one wanted to spend the money they could get the z to comparable status. It still wont be a Ferrari but maybe thats a good thing, I don't want to spontaneously combust. The Z's engine just goes limp before it gets hot enough to melt haha.

370Z Purist · 02-13-2011, 05:23 AM

While I don't think that a Z could beat a F430 Scuderia, it's within reason to say that the Z can very readily beat an F430. However, you'd need a lot of money...

First things first, you've got to increase power. The Stillen supercharger gives the Z about 450 rwhp. A TT setup could potentially give you 1000HP if you modded the Z enough. GTM already produces increased-displacement modifications, up to a whopping 4.5L. That combined with a twin turbo is huge potential.

If you want to beat a F430, even a Scuderia, on a drag strip, that's easy. Big engine, big turbo, big tires, and a rock-hard suspension. Well, you'd also need a VERY good driver. It's difficult to shift a 1000HP car, let alone try to beat one with a six (seven?) speed sequential gearbox that can shift as fast, if not faster, than you can blink an eye.

That being said, the mods I did mention would put you back a LOT on funds. In fact, I'm sure that for the parts and labor involved, as well as dyno tunes and etc., you could actually buy another 370Z, possibly even a NISMO. Not to mention how much gas that will use (and I doubt premium pump will have enough anti-knock without alcohol or water injection).

All of the above is assuming said F430 is stock.

If you're arguing with your enthusiast (or ignorant) car guy/girl, you can reasonably beat an F430 with less money than it costs to buy an F430. If you plan on trying to track against an F430, I would wait for three years or more's worth of disposable income before you even start to think about going against that Ferrari.

Better yet, I suppose you forget about that and buy a 911 turbo S or a 911 GT3. You know what, forget that, just buy a 458 Italia. That will tell that F430 what for.

mick · 02-13-2011, 05:33 AM

trade it in for a 2012 GT-R. that would take care of most ferraris and supercars

370Z Purist · 02-13-2011, 06:25 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mick

trade it in for a 2012 GT-R. that would take care of most ferraris and supercars

That would definitely beat a 911 turbo. Much more forgiving than a Ferrari.

AllForTheCash · 02-13-2011, 07:31 AM

I can't believe he even got a response for such a question

Chan Chee Hoe · 02-13-2011, 08:50 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by AK370Z

Did you just say Ferrari F430? The answer is NEVER! You Z will NEVER outperform a Ferrari F430. Please never throw such comparisons. You comparing 370Z to a Ferrari F430 is like comparing Chevy Cobalt to a Corvette ZR1!!!

As for making your car FASTER, there's plenty of different approaches. The bigger questions are "How much do you want to spend?" and "How Fast do you want to make it?" Someone who is a car noob (is this your first sports coupe?), I'd stick with Exhaust/intake/tune/better braking (gripper pad) etc. 332 HP should be plenty of power. Many of us Z owners are VERY happy with the stock power and handling. Just my

of course.

Agreed with AK,Ferrari & our Z are totally diffrence class of car,sports car vs supercar.

spearfish25 · 02-13-2011, 09:05 AM

If you watch any decent car show, you'll know that there is more to performance than horsepower. It's only the American approach that puts a bigger engine in a car to 'beat' a competitor. The Z with a TT kit will NOT be a replacement for an F430.

I think of it this way:
Replacement means identical (or better) in every way. Sure you can make a Z get to 100mph faster than an F430. You may also be able to have it brake from 70-0 faster. But to make the whole package...to corner, accelerate, stop, etc etc better than an F430 you'll need a race team's budget behind you. A TT will make the Z faster, coil overs will help with cornering ability, a BBK with repeated stopping. But you still have a 3300+lb car. Are you going to find a company to custom make every body panel in carbon fiber? How would you fix the 56/44 weight distribution in the Z without adding weight to the back?

Just like in the video games, building a car doesn't make it drivable. You may end up with a terrible handling beast that is more of an abomination than a Ferrari killer. I'd suggest to enjoy the Z as it is or up your budget and buy a different car.

ImportConvert · 02-13-2011, 09:23 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by CrownR426

Yes. Twin Turbo Kit to be exact.

And since you beef up your power you will have to add some more meat in the rears and front as well.
Get stiffer with coilovers and upgrade your clutch.
Get a short shiter as well.
Brake pads, stainless steel braklines, rotors.

When I was contemplating doing a TT 370Z, I was told by GTM that the stock clutch will hold 450whp just fine unless you are hitting the strip with slicks.

That being said, the 370Z will never beat an F430. It might be faster, but that's something else entirely.

Also, 0-100? Nonono.

If you are playing with the big boys, it's 60-130+. That's what will show you what car has the juevos

SPOHN · 02-13-2011, 11:25 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mick

trade it in for a 2012 GT-R. that would take care of most ferraris and supercars

Agree!

But here's a great vid though.

YouTube - Twin turbo Nissan 350z vs. new 06 Viper

6spd · 02-13-2011, 11:36 AM

i think the old saying "anything is possible if you have the money" applies here.

SPOHN · 02-13-2011, 12:14 PM

^ with women also.

geohartanto · 02-13-2011, 12:44 PM

thx guys im learning alot from these forums

02-13-2011, 03:30 AM	#1 (permalink)
geohartanto Base Member Join Date: Sep 2010 Location: Boston Posts: 45 Drives: 370z Stillen SC Rep Power: 15	370z vs ferrari f430 hello im the ultimate noob how much worth of mods does it take for a z to beat a ferrari f430 in say 0-100mph? . is a turbocharger enough? thanks, nitenite

02-13-2011, 04:31 AM	#3 (permalink)
AK370Z Administrator Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: NJ Posts: 9,930 Drives: 09 370Z MB Sports M6 Rep Power: 10	Did you just say Ferrari F430? The answer is NEVER! You Z will NEVER outperform a Ferrari F430. Please never throw such comparisons. You comparing 370Z to a Ferrari F430 is like comparing Chevy Cobalt to a Corvette ZR1!!! As for making your car FASTER, there's plenty of different approaches. The bigger questions are "How much do you want to spend?" and "How Fast do you want to make it?" Someone who is a car noob (is this your first sports coupe?), I'd stick with Exhaust/intake/tune/better braking (gripper pad) etc. 332 HP should be plenty of power. Many of us Z owners are VERY happy with the stock power and handling. Just my of course. __________________ The370Z Signature Pictures ll Want to rock our forum decals on your car? Then click here! ll How to Embed YouTube Videos In a Post STOP! (Hammertime) ll Become a Premium Member Click HERE ll F.A.Q. Are You a Nissan Dealer? Click Here to Become A "Supporting Dealer" and Start Listing Your 370Zs In Our Inventory Section My Monterey Blue Z ll My Exhaust --> My Intake --> G3 Nissan's Official Response Regarding Oil Temp Issue: CLICK HERE Need a Set of Cheap Winter wheels /Tires? Then Visit The Banner Link Below and Place Your Order. You'll Help Keep The370Z Alive.

02-13-2011, 05:23 AM	#5 (permalink)
370Z Purist A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Jun 2009 Location: Zion, Illinois Posts: 1,873 Drives: '09 370Z-T BS M6 Rep Power: 19	While I don't think that a Z could beat a F430 Scuderia, it's within reason to say that the Z can very readily beat an F430. However, you'd need a lot of money... First things first, you've got to increase power. The Stillen supercharger gives the Z about 450 rwhp. A TT setup could potentially give you 1000HP if you modded the Z enough. GTM already produces increased-displacement modifications, up to a whopping 4.5L. That combined with a twin turbo is huge potential. If you want to beat a F430, even a Scuderia, on a drag strip, that's easy. Big engine, big turbo, big tires, and a rock-hard suspension. Well, you'd also need a VERY good driver. It's difficult to shift a 1000HP car, let alone try to beat one with a six (seven?) speed sequential gearbox that can shift as fast, if not faster, than you can blink an eye. That being said, the mods I did mention would put you back a LOT on funds. In fact, I'm sure that for the parts and labor involved, as well as dyno tunes and etc., you could actually buy another 370Z, possibly even a NISMO. Not to mention how much gas that will use (and I doubt premium pump will have enough anti-knock without alcohol or water injection). All of the above is assuming said F430 is stock. If you're arguing with your enthusiast (or ignorant) car guy/girl, you can reasonably beat an F430 with less money than it costs to buy an F430. If you plan on trying to track against an F430, I would wait for three years or more's worth of disposable income before you even start to think about going against that Ferrari. Better yet, I suppose you forget about that and buy a 911 turbo S or a 911 GT3. You know what, forget that, just buy a 458 Italia. That will tell that F430 what for. __________________ -Phil "Since one of my brake light bulbs just went out, the forum told me that my piston rings are about to blow."

02-13-2011, 07:31 AM	#8 (permalink)
AllForTheCash Enthusiast Member Join Date: Sep 2010 Location: NJ Posts: 385 Drives: 370z Rep Power: 15	I can't believe he even got a response for such a question __________________ 2010 370z Brilliant Silver/Frost - Touring - Sport - Navigation - 6MT

02-13-2011, 09:05 AM	#10 (permalink)
spearfish25 A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: Naples, FL Posts: 4,117 Drives: to work Rep Power: 1856	If you watch any decent car show, you'll know that there is more to performance than horsepower. It's only the American approach that puts a bigger engine in a car to 'beat' a competitor. The Z with a TT kit will NOT be a replacement for an F430. I think of it this way: Replacement means identical (or better) in every way. Sure you can make a Z get to 100mph faster than an F430. You may also be able to have it brake from 70-0 faster. But to make the whole package...to corner, accelerate, stop, etc etc better than an F430 you'll need a race team's budget behind you. A TT will make the Z faster, coil overs will help with cornering ability, a BBK with repeated stopping. But you still have a 3300+lb car. Are you going to find a company to custom make every body panel in carbon fiber? How would you fix the 56/44 weight distribution in the Z without adding weight to the back? Just like in the video games, building a car doesn't make it drivable. You may end up with a terrible handling beast that is more of an abomination than a Ferrari killer. I'd suggest to enjoy the Z as it is or up your budget and buy a different car. __________________ 2013 Cadillac V-Wagon, RIP Z

02-13-2011, 05:33 AM	#6 (permalink)
mick Track Member Join Date: Jan 2010 Location: California Posts: 903 Drives: Used to drive a 370z Rep Power: 16	trade it in for a 2012 GT-R. that would take care of most ferraris and supercars

02-13-2011, 11:36 AM	#13 (permalink)
6spd A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Aug 2009 Location: South Florida Posts: 3,001 Drives: Q50RS Rep Power: 25	i think the old saying "anything is possible if you have the money" applies here. __________________ -Jay- jonathanjamesphotographer.com

02-13-2011, 12:14 PM	#14 (permalink)
SPOHN A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Feb 2010 Location: Covington, GA Age: 46 Posts: 14,844 Drives: Waiting on next Z Rep Power: 221	^ with women also. __________________

02-13-2011, 12:44 PM	#15 (permalink)
geohartanto Base Member Join Date: Sep 2010 Location: Boston Posts: 45 Drives: 370z Stillen SC Rep Power: 15	thx guys im learning alot from these forums

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