Porsche Cayman vs Nissan Z

Junior370z · 02-05-2011, 08:35 PM

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Originally Posted by ThoriumHotdog

In the $52-$88k range, you can buy a brand new Porsche Cayman. On the higher end of that range, you can also get a slightly used '10 Nissan GTR and in the midranges, you can get a slightly used Nissan GTR from years anywhere from '08 to '09. The Cayman has better prices, but the GTR is put in an entirely different class of motorsport when it comes to comparison.

Thus far, the Nissan GTR goes undefeated in all of its comparisons, not only to more affordable cars such as the Cayman, but also to cars in the price range of new Cayman R's (67's, 82's). I myself err toward the GTR and its refined passion for sportsmanship, on the basis of its perfect balance and twin turbo monster all wheel drive. As far as value, however, the guys at Porsche will charge you for almost everything. For example, if you want automatic climate control, that is an option. Xenon headlamps, that is an option. Things that are found for free on other cars are all options on the Cayman. So the conclusion I reach is that, as far as passion goes, the Cayman is just a riceburner compared to the undeniable king of the circuit, the GTR.

Thing is, the open highways are nothing like a circuit, and how often will that highest-corner-exit-speed-in-the-world come into play on the roads? At the same time, the interior of the GTR, even including less options, seems much more suited to crushing your enemies, seeing them driven before you, and to hearing the lamentation of their women, than the low quality, german, let's-hope-this-glue-doesn't-dissolve-before-the-end-of-the-warranty interior of the Cayman.

However, in value, getting a new car is in essence better than used if they are both the same price. So, assuming one has the option of a used GTR and a new Cayman who will be able to maintain the car no matter which it is, what is the better choice? I hope that, thus far, I have stirred some indignant rebuttals within any users of this forum, for the very reason I posted this biased thread on a 370z forum instead of an impartial forum is because I would like to see the opinions of those biased toward 370z.

Thank you for your input.

pulpz · 02-05-2011, 08:57 PM

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Originally Posted by m4a1mustang

Are you a troll? Because this has been hashed out millions of times before on this forum.

Bingo...two OP threads, and both stirring the pot...

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Originally Posted by Sheen

The reason for me posting this thread was to see if I could be convinced otherwise. If there is a choice between a Cayman and a 370z, I am trying to see why one would choose the latter. I am not trying to start problems, and if others see it that way, they should realize that they are the only ones trying to bring about conflict.

Here's your OP from the only other thread you've posted....

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Originally Posted by Sheen

At approximately what height can somebody comfortably drive the Nissan 370Z, being able to fully push all of the pedals down, see over the dash, shift effectively, etc.? And without phonebooks/cushions and whatnot.

By the way, do you all clearly see the bonnet of the car and the road right in front of the car when you drive your Z?

My guess is you're pretty far from owning either, as you've been poking around here for over six months (and really not constructively contributing). Why such a long deliberation over the Cayman and the 370Z (or the M3)?. If it's a financial stretch, and not an protracted exploration of which is the better car, just buy the Z and enjoy it. Make up your own mind and be done with the trolling.

Oh, and the bonnet? Well...the Z has had a high waist line since the 350Z, it's part of the aesthetic. Maybe the Cayman does fit you better, as it's not overly accommodating to someone with long legs and torso.

samb03 · 02-05-2011, 08:59 PM

It depends on what you want out of the car, and how long you plan to keep it. I would by a new car if I liked alot and planned on driving it til the wheels fell off. If I just wanted a nice car to drive for a year or 2 and trade it off for a newer/different one, I would go with a used porche. The deprecation has already been eaten by the original buyer.

Sheen · 02-05-2011, 09:39 PM

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Originally Posted by Cell

HEy! I drive a garbage truck too. Why are you copying me?

I say this in all seriousness; you, sir, are a genius.

PapoZalsa · 02-05-2011, 09:49 PM

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Originally Posted by m4a1mustang

Are you a troll? Because this has been hashed out millions of times before on this forum.

Sheen · 02-05-2011, 09:54 PM

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Originally Posted by PapoZalsa

Please stop accusing me of being a troll. If I was actually trolling I wouldn't care, but I joined this forum for a reason, and that reason is not to get kicked off of it for being accused of trolling by ignorant people that are always on the offensive. The reason I post the way I do is because it generates more response due to the fact that it is more intellectually stimulating. I am going to buy a car, be it now or tomorrow or next week or next month, so what I am doing is looking for information and trying to decide what to do. At this point, I have adequately experienced both 370z's and Caymans in person. If the decision was simple, I wouldn't have posted this thread.

Endgame · 02-05-2011, 10:02 PM

The pre DI/320 HP/PDK Cayman S' are not faster than the Z on the track. The 370Z look MUCH better than the Cayman S and can tuned and significantly reduce the advantage the DI/320 HP/PDK Cayman S' have at the track.

The interior of the Z is not Porsche-like, but it is BMW/Infiniti like. You can tinker with Z yourself in your garage, and it does not have maintenance cost like the CS. If money were not an issue, I would get a daily driver (CX7), a 370Z, and a Pathfinder to tow the Z to the track on the weekend. OR, I would get a GTR.

Like ImportConvert said, I could not stomach paying that much for a Cayman S with two seats. If I pay that much, it is GTR or Z06. If I got a Porsche, it would be GT3. Nuf said.

Demon Z · 02-05-2011, 10:03 PM

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Originally Posted by Sheen

Please stop accusing me of being a troll. If I was actually trolling I wouldn't care, but I joined this forum for a reason, and that reason is not to get kicked off of it for being accused of trolling by ignorant people that are always on the offensive. The reason I post the way I do is because it generates more response due to the fact that it is more intellectually stimulating. I am going to buy a car, be it now or tomorrow or next week or next month, so what I am doing is looking for information and trying to decide what to do. At this point, I have adequately experienced both 370z's and Caymans in person. If the decision was simple, I wouldn't have posted this thread.

That's your opinion. I want my two minutes back.

Sheen · 02-05-2011, 10:05 PM

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Originally Posted by Demon Z

(1)That's your opinion. (2)I want my two minutes back.

1) All you did by stating that fact is waste more of your own time.
2) You must be a slow reader.

Rone · 02-05-2011, 10:23 PM

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Originally Posted by Sheen

1) All you did by stating that fact is waste more of your own time.
2) You must be a slow reader.

LOL. Pure comedic gold.

My worthless opinion is that some people rather have the refined look of the Porsche. Some just like the idea of driving around the name. I'm not a car enthusiast, but I know what I like when I see it. I think the Z looks better as opposed to the girlish figure of the Cayman. So with that being said, if money was no option, there doesn't seem to be a huge gap in performance, it would come down to the one I like to look at the most. Z for me.

cab83_750 · 02-05-2011, 10:45 PM

Between a brand new Z and a slightly used Cayman S, my recommendation is to go with the Cayman S "IF" you are willing to confront possible high maintenAnce/repair cost. Don't forget that repair issues will only be issues "after" the warranty period.

I am sure you know about Porsche CPO warranty so I don't think you need to worry about repairs for a while.

Drive them both again and go with your feelings. I drove the Cayman myself and fell in love with the driving experience --- i didn't buy one though as they were out of the DI models.

Trying to get input from Z-owners from a Z-forum may not be your wisest move. So bear with a cusations.

Good luck to you.

ThoriumHotdog · 02-05-2011, 10:51 PM

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Originally Posted by Sheen

1) All you did by stating that fact is waste more of your own time.
2) You must be a slow reader.

So you wasted more time to tell him he was wasting your time? Cool.

Sheen · 02-05-2011, 11:00 PM

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Originally Posted by ThoriumHotdog

So you wasted more time to tell him he was wasting your time? Cool.

No, you are misinterpreting the situation, my friend. I am not concerned with time. It is he who is concerned with time. I can waste all the time I feel necessary whereas he places restrictions on his own time, so I am merely informing him that by taking the time to tell me I am wasting his time, he is simply wasting more of his own time, so the smarter thing to do in his scenario would be to just accept the loss and move on, instead of taking the time to make it known that his time has been wasted, because then he would be contradicting his own cause.

Aside from that, I would like to thank everyone who has made a comment thus far. Excellent responses I see all around, and much due respect to all of you for being passionate about the Z.

onzedge · 02-05-2011, 11:14 PM

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Originally Posted by Sheen

No, you are misinterpreting the situation, my friend. I am not concerned with time. It is he who is concerned with time. I can waste all the time I feel necessary whereas he places restrictions on his own time, so I am merely informing him that by taking the time to tell me I am wasting his time, he is simply wasting more of his own time, so the smarter thing to do in his scenario would be to just accept the loss and move on, instead of taking the time to make it known that his time has been wasted, because then he would be contradicting his own cause.

Aside from that, I would like to thank everyone who has made a comment thus far. Excellent responses I see all around, and much due respect to all of you for being passionate about the Z.

Mental masturbation.

ThoriumHotdog · 02-05-2011, 11:18 PM

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Originally Posted by Sheen

No, you are misinterpreting the situation, my friend. I am not concerned with time. It is he who is concerned with time. I can waste all the time I feel necessary whereas he places restrictions on his own time, so I am merely informing him that by taking the time to tell me I am wasting his time, he is simply wasting more of his own time, so the smarter thing to do in his scenario would be to just accept the loss and move on, instead of taking the time to make it known that his time has been wasted, because then he would be contradicting his own cause.

Aside from that, I would like to thank everyone who has made a comment thus far. Excellent responses I see all around, and much due respect to all of you for being passionate about the Z.

Oh, I should have wasted more time reading your posts.

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02-05-2011, 08:59 PM	#33 (permalink)
samb03 Base Member Join Date: Nov 2010 Location: western Oklahoma Posts: 164 Drives: Black Cherry Sport Rep Power: 15	It depends on what you want out of the car, and how long you plan to keep it. I would by a new car if I liked alot and planned on driving it til the wheels fell off. If I just wanted a nice car to drive for a year or 2 and trade it off for a newer/different one, I would go with a used porche. The deprecation has already been eaten by the original buyer.

02-05-2011, 10:02 PM	#37 (permalink)
Endgame A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Nov 2008 Location: Phoenix Posts: 1,613 Drives: Nothing Now! Rep Power: 224	The pre DI/320 HP/PDK Cayman S' are not faster than the Z on the track. The 370Z look MUCH better than the Cayman S and can tuned and significantly reduce the advantage the DI/320 HP/PDK Cayman S' have at the track. The interior of the Z is not Porsche-like, but it is BMW/Infiniti like. You can tinker with Z yourself in your garage, and it does not have maintenance cost like the CS. If money were not an issue, I would get a daily driver (CX7), a 370Z, and a Pathfinder to tow the Z to the track on the weekend. OR, I would get a GTR. Like ImportConvert said, I could not stomach paying that much for a Cayman S with two seats. If I pay that much, it is GTR or Z06. If I got a Porsche, it would be GT3. Nuf said.

02-05-2011, 10:45 PM	#41 (permalink)
cab83_750 Track Member Join Date: Apr 2009 Location: CA Posts: 887 Drives: 09 NISSAN 370Z Rep Power: 417	Between a brand new Z and a slightly used Cayman S, my recommendation is to go with the Cayman S "IF" you are willing to confront possible high maintenAnce/repair cost. Don't forget that repair issues will only be issues "after" the warranty period. I am sure you know about Porsche CPO warranty so I don't think you need to worry about repairs for a while. Drive them both again and go with your feelings. I drove the Cayman myself and fell in love with the driving experience --- i didn't buy one though as they were out of the DI models. Trying to get input from Z-owners from a Z-forum may not be your wisest move. So bear with a cusations. Good luck to you.