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I'd rather go with a new 370 than a used cayman if were talking value here. and save the 2 grand a year in upkeep.... plus imho the 370 looks

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Old 02-05-2011, 07:07 PM   #1 (permalink)
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I'd rather go with a new 370 than a used cayman if were talking value here.

and save the 2 grand a year in upkeep....

plus imho the 370 looks better...... i don't test my 0-60 times very often...
or for that matter the top end speed..........

but i do love the handling,styling and stares i receive daily.............
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In the $52-$88k range, you can buy a brand new Porsche Cayman. On the higher end of that range, you can also get a slightly used '10 Nissan GTR and in the midranges, you can get a slightly used Nissan GTR from years anywhere from '08 to '09. The Cayman has better prices, but the GTR is put in an entirely different class of motorsport when it comes to comparison.

Thus far, the Nissan GTR goes undefeated in all of its comparisons, not only to more affordable cars such as the Cayman, but also to cars in the price range of new Cayman R's (67's, 82's). I myself err toward the GTR and its refined passion for sportsmanship, on the basis of its perfect balance and twin turbo monster all wheel drive. As far as value, however, the guys at Porsche will charge you for almost everything. For example, if you want automatic climate control, that is an option. Xenon headlamps, that is an option. Things that are found for free on other cars are all options on the Cayman. So the conclusion I reach is that, as far as passion goes, the Cayman is just a riceburner compared to the undeniable king of the circuit, the GTR.

Thing is, the open highways are nothing like a circuit, and how often will that highest-corner-exit-speed-in-the-world come into play on the roads? At the same time, the interior of the GTR, even including less options, seems much more suited to crushing your enemies, seeing them driven before you, and to hearing the lamentation of their women, than the low quality, german, let's-hope-this-glue-doesn't-dissolve-before-the-end-of-the-warranty interior of the Cayman.

However, in value, getting a new car is in essence better than used if they are both the same price. So, assuming one has the option of a used GTR and a new Cayman who will be able to maintain the car no matter which it is, what is the better choice? I hope that, thus far, I have stirred some indignant rebuttals within any users of this forum, for the very reason I posted this biased thread on a 370z forum instead of an impartial forum is because I would like to see the opinions of those biased toward 370z.

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In the $52-$88k range, you can buy a brand new Porsche Cayman. On the higher end of that range, you can also get a slightly used '10 Nissan GTR and in the midranges, you can get a slightly used Nissan GTR from years anywhere from '08 to '09. The Cayman has better prices, but the GTR is put in an entirely different class of motorsport when it comes to comparison.

Thus far, the Nissan GTR goes undefeated in all of its comparisons, not only to more affordable cars such as the Cayman, but also to cars in the price range of new Cayman R's (67's, 82's). I myself err toward the GTR and its refined passion for sportsmanship, on the basis of its perfect balance and twin turbo monster all wheel drive. As far as value, however, the guys at Porsche will charge you for almost everything. For example, if you want automatic climate control, that is an option. Xenon headlamps, that is an option. Things that are found for free on other cars are all options on the Cayman. So the conclusion I reach is that, as far as passion goes, the Cayman is just a riceburner compared to the undeniable king of the circuit, the GTR.

Thing is, the open highways are nothing like a circuit, and how often will that highest-corner-exit-speed-in-the-world come into play on the roads? At the same time, the interior of the GTR, even including less options, seems much more suited to crushing your enemies, seeing them driven before you, and to hearing the lamentation of their women, than the low quality, german, let's-hope-this-glue-doesn't-dissolve-before-the-end-of-the-warranty interior of the Cayman.

However, in value, getting a new car is in essence better than used if they are both the same price. So, assuming one has the option of a used GTR and a new Cayman who will be able to maintain the car no matter which it is, what is the better choice? I hope that, thus far, I have stirred some indignant rebuttals within any users of this forum, for the very reason I posted this biased thread on a 370z forum instead of an impartial forum is because I would like to see the opinions of those biased toward 370z.

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What about a Carrera GT? I'd want that over the 911
Carrera GT is actually not a good car, according to actual owners, and you may have noticed even the journalists were very quiet about it, though they can't acually say it's crap if they want to stay in good graces. In my opinion it's fugly to boot. If your spending six figures at least get a Ferrari if you want a beautiful sportscar car that costs as much to run as it does to buy, and while your at it, buy yourself a flatbed truck at a full time driver to follow you around wherever you go. I know Ferrari has gotten much better in the last few years (Lambo has not), but good god you spend six figure money for a car and it leaves you on the side of the road. I know a dude who drives tow trucks for a living in Bellevue WA, where there are lots of Ferraris, and he's usually hauling one to the shop.

The 911 has some fans, but it's just a VW bug with lipstick.
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Carrera GT is actually not a good car, according to actual owners, and you may have noticed even the journalists were very quiet about it, though they can't acually say it's crap if they want to stay in good graces. In my opinion it's fugly to boot. If your spending six figures at least get a Ferrari if you want a beautiful sportscar car that costs as much to run as it does to buy, and while your at it, buy yourself a flatbed truck at a full time driver to follow you around wherever you go. I know Ferrari has gotten much better in the last few years (Lambo has not), but good god you spend six figure money for a car and it leaves you on the side of the road. I know a dude who drives tow trucks for a living in Bellevue WA, where there are lots of Ferraris, and he's usually hauling one to the shop.

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In the $30-$40k range, you can buy a brand new Nissan 370z. On the higher end of that range, you can also get a slightly used '09 Cayman and in the midranges, you can get a slightly used Cayman S from years anywhere from '06 to '09. The Nissan Z has better numbers, but the Cayman is put in an entirely different class of motorsport when it comes to comparison. Thus far, the Porsche Cayman goes undefeated in all of its comparisons, not only to more affordable cars such as the Z, but also to cars in the higher price range of new Caymans (50's, 60's). I myself err toward the Cayman and its refined passion for sportsmanship, on the basis of its perfect balance and mid-engined format. As far as value, however, the guys at Porsche will charge you for almost everything. For example, if you want automatic climate control, that is an option. Xenon headlamps, that is an option. Things that are found for free on other cars are all options on the Cayman. So the conclusion I reach is that, as far as passion goes, the 370z is just a riceburner compared to the undeniable king of the circuit, the Cayman. Thing is, the open highways are nothing like a circuit, and how often will that highest-corner-exit-speed-in-the-world come into play on the roads? At the same time, the interior of the Cayman, even including less options, seems much more suited to daily driving than the low quality, japanese, let's-just-get-by interior of the 370z. However, in value, getting a new car is in essence better than used if they are both the same price. So, assuming one has the option of a used Cayman and a new 370z who will be able to maintain the car no matter which it is, what is the better choice? I hope that, thus far, I have stirred some indignant rebuttals within any users of this forum, for the very reason I posted this biased thread on a 370z forum instead of an impartial forum is because I would like to see the opinions of those biased toward the 370z.

Thank you for your input.
I am probably as impartial as you will get between the two cars. I looked at the Cayman S. I looked at the 370Z.

The Cayman S came across as a rip-off (a nice one, though!) and the 370Z, a bargain.

The 370Z's interior felt and looked as good to me as the Cayman S's. It wasn't made of the same quality of material, no, but to me, plastic is plastic, etc. as long as it feels the same and holds up.

If money were no object, I would have bought the Cayman S, fully loaded. If money were an object, the 370Z. As it turns out, I bought neither, but the 370Z is far from out-matched in ANY aspect other than paint-quality and name-recognition, in my opinion having looked at both cars without any fan-boyism for either.

All that being said, I couldn't stomach paying $65K for a car that ran 13's and only had 2 seats. No matter who's name was on it or how well it handled.
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I think I'll stick to my brand new 370Z that has a 3 year warranty. BTW have fun paying for those repair bills on your used Porsche. Enjoy your new insurance rates also! It almost sounds like you are trying to convince everyone here that we all made a mistake in our purchase. What kind of a reaction did you think you would get posting this to a 370Z forum? I say you are a troll!
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It depends on what you want out of the car, and how long you plan to keep it. I would by a new car if I liked alot and planned on driving it til the wheels fell off. If I just wanted a nice car to drive for a year or 2 and trade it off for a newer/different one, I would go with a used porche. The deprecation has already been eaten by the original buyer.
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The pre DI/320 HP/PDK Cayman S' are not faster than the Z on the track. The 370Z look MUCH better than the Cayman S and can tuned and significantly reduce the advantage the DI/320 HP/PDK Cayman S' have at the track.

The interior of the Z is not Porsche-like, but it is BMW/Infiniti like. You can tinker with Z yourself in your garage, and it does not have maintenance cost like the CS. If money were not an issue, I would get a daily driver (CX7), a 370Z, and a Pathfinder to tow the Z to the track on the weekend. OR, I would get a GTR.

Like ImportConvert said, I could not stomach paying that much for a Cayman S with two seats. If I pay that much, it is GTR or Z06. If I got a Porsche, it would be GT3. Nuf said.
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Between a brand new Z and a slightly used Cayman S, my recommendation is to go with the Cayman S "IF" you are willing to confront possible high maintenAnce/repair cost. Don't forget that repair issues will only be issues "after" the warranty period.

I am sure you know about Porsche CPO warranty so I don't think you need to worry about repairs for a while.

Drive them both again and go with your feelings. I drove the Cayman myself and fell in love with the driving experience --- i didn't buy one though as they were out of the DI models.

Trying to get input from Z-owners from a Z-forum may not be your wisest move. So bear with a cusations.

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