Porsche Cayman vs Nissan Z

Sheen · 02-05-2011, 08:39 PM

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Originally Posted by Cell

HEy! I drive a garbage truck too. Why are you copying me?

I say this in all seriousness; you, sir, are a genius.

b1adesofcha0s · 02-05-2011, 04:08 PM

I've known like 4 or 5 ppl that owned a Z and none had any major issues. My cousin had a Porsche Boxster a few years ago whose engine caught on fire. He had been to the Porsche dealership 2-3 times complaining about engine noise and they said it was nothing. Then his engine caught on fire. Luckily he wasn't hurt and still had like a few hundred miles on his warranty to it was replaced for free. Just giving my experience with Porsche.

CBRich · 02-05-2011, 04:11 PM

So, when did the 370 beat you? Was your girlfriend/wife with you? Were you embarassed? I'm so sorry, really.

onzedge · 02-05-2011, 04:13 PM

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Originally Posted by Sheen

In the $30-$40k range, you can buy a brand new Nissan 370z. On the higher end of that range, you can also get a slightly used '09 Cayman and in the midranges, you can get a slightly used Cayman S from years anywhere from '06 to '09. The Nissan Z has better numbers, but the Cayman is put in an entirely different class of motorsport when it comes to comparison. Thus far, the Porsche Cayman goes undefeated in all of its comparisons, not only to more affordable cars such as the Z, but also to cars in the higher price range of new Caymans (50's, 60's). I myself err toward the Cayman and its refined passion for sportsmanship, on the basis of its perfect balance and mid-engined format. As far as value, however, the guys at Porsche will charge you for almost everything. For example, if you want automatic climate control, that is an option. Xenon headlamps, that is an option. Things that are found for free on other cars are all options on the Cayman. So the conclusion I reach is that, as far as passion goes, the 370z is just a riceburner compared to the undeniable king of the circuit, the Cayman. Thing is, the open highways are nothing like a circuit, and how often will that highest-corner-exit-speed-in-the-world come into play on the roads? At the same time, the interior of the Cayman, even including less options, seems much more suited to daily driving than the low quality, japanese, let's-just-get-by interior of the 370z. However, in value, getting a new car is in essence better than used if they are both the same price. So, assuming one has the option of a used Cayman and a new 370z who will be able to maintain the car no matter which it is, what is the better choice? I hope that, thus far, I have stirred some indignant rebuttals within any users of this forum, for the very reason I posted this biased thread on a 370z forum instead of an impartial forum is because I would like to see the opinions of those biased toward the 370z.

Thank you for your input.

You, of course, know the difference between a porcupine and a Porsche, right? A porcupine has many pricks on the outside, but a Porsche has only one on the inside.

mick · 02-05-2011, 04:14 PM

this is what nissan had to say about this topic

it's one of their commercials in europe

Jamaica · 02-05-2011, 04:19 PM

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Originally Posted by mick

this is what nissan had to say about this topic

it's one of their commercials in europe

hahahaah

sucasa · 02-05-2011, 04:31 PM

In all seriousness, i have no issues examining both cars.. but you have to realize nissan 370z and porsche Cayman are going after different market segments with different expectations.

In my opinion, Nissan Z will and always appeal to drivers who want a fast affordable, reliable, and legendary car that comes with a established pedigree.

Porsche also have a great racing history but w/ their 911s. That model is night and day difference than the Cayman. The Cayman is Porsche's attempt to gain entry in lower price point, by leveraging their name, history, and prestige. Good for them, but it's no 911.

To some, Cayman will be a great choice, but like any German high end car, be prepared for much higher maintenance costs, and options as described earlier.

I haven't owned a Cayman, but my friend has a 911, and I owned a SL500 previously, so I do speak from experience. Yearly maintenance costs would be around $2000+. If you are willing to play, then, be prepared to pay.

Nissan has made significant advancements to their Z car, and each generation has gotten better. This is my first Z, and I am very pleased with it.

b1adesofcha0s · 02-05-2011, 05:21 PM

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Originally Posted by sucasa

In all seriousness, i have no issues examining both cars.. but you have to realize nissan 370z and porsche Cayman are going after different market segments with different expectations.

In my opinion, Nissan Z will and always appeal to drivers who want a fast affordable, reliable, and legendary car that comes with a established pedigree.

Porsche also have a great racing history but w/ their 911s. That model is night and day difference than the Cayman. The Cayman is Porsche's attempt to gain entry in lower price point, by leveraging their name, history, and prestige. Good for them, but it's no 911.

To some, Cayman will be a great choice, but like any German high end car, be prepared for much higher maintenance costs, and options as described earlier.

I haven't owned a Cayman, but my friend has a 911, and I owned a SL500 previously, so I do speak from experience. Yearly maintenance costs would be around $2000+. If you are willing to play, then, be prepared to pay.

Nissan has made significant advancements to their Z car, and each generation has gotten better. This is my first Z, and I am very pleased with it.

You made a lot of good points and I agree with you on all of them. IMO if you really want a Porsche over a Z, save some money and get a 911. What my cousin says now is if you're gonna get a Porsche get a 911 or don't get one at all.

mick · 02-05-2011, 05:27 PM

for the money, i think i would rather have one roadster, one 40th anniversary, and one nismo than just one 911

Lemers · 02-05-2011, 05:27 PM

What about a Carrera GT? I'd want that over the 911

mick · 02-05-2011, 05:31 PM

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Originally Posted by Lemers

What about a Carrera GT? I'd want that over the 911

do you know how much it cost to replace the clutch in a Carrera GT?
about the same price as a new camaro LS

b1adesofcha0s · 02-05-2011, 05:40 PM

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Originally Posted by Lemers

What about a Carrera GT? I'd want that over the 911

I would rather have a Bugatti Veyron than a Carrera GT

. I would rather get a GT-R than a 911.

mick · 02-05-2011, 05:43 PM

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Originally Posted by b1adesofcha0s

I would rather have a Bugatti Veyron than a Carrera GT

. I would rather get a GT-R than a 911.

haha. i would rather have 2 million dollars in my bank account than a bugatti veyron

b1adesofcha0s · 02-05-2011, 05:59 PM

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Originally Posted by mick

haha. i would rather have 2 million dollars in my bank account than a bugatti veyron

I didn't say I wanted pay for it. If a car were to magically appear in my garage, I would rather it be a Bugatti Veyron than a Carrera GT. I would of course sell it immediately and keep the $2 million.

To get back on topic, drive both and see which you like better. Whichever one you think would give you the better overall experience (performance, looks, comfort, etc.) should be the one you get. Don't listen to what anyone else says. If you can afford to buy and maintain both then go with what feels better to you. I went through the same thing with my Z purchase recently. I was deciding between the 370Z and G37. Not a single one of my family or friends liked the 370Z over the G37. Cost was a factor to me, but after driving both I liked the 370Z better and bought it when I found a great deal. Now every single person who said I should have gotten the G37 has changed their mind and say that I made the right choice. It's your car, do what makes you happy, not what makes someone else happy.

ThoriumHotdog · 02-05-2011, 06:13 PM

In the $52-$88k range, you can buy a brand new Porsche Cayman. On the higher end of that range, you can also get a slightly used '10 Nissan GTR and in the midranges, you can get a slightly used Nissan GTR from years anywhere from '08 to '09. The Cayman has better prices, but the GTR is put in an entirely different class of motorsport when it comes to comparison.

Thus far, the Nissan GTR goes undefeated in all of its comparisons, not only to more affordable cars such as the Cayman, but also to cars in the price range of new Cayman R's (67's, 82's). I myself err toward the GTR and its refined passion for sportsmanship, on the basis of its perfect balance and twin turbo monster all wheel drive. As far as value, however, the guys at Porsche will charge you for almost everything. For example, if you want automatic climate control, that is an option. Xenon headlamps, that is an option. Things that are found for free on other cars are all options on the Cayman. So the conclusion I reach is that, as far as passion goes, the Cayman is just a riceburner compared to the undeniable king of the circuit, the GTR.

Thing is, the open highways are nothing like a circuit, and how often will that highest-corner-exit-speed-in-the-world come into play on the roads? At the same time, the interior of the GTR, even including less options, seems much more suited to crushing your enemies, seeing them driven before you, and to hearing the lamentation of their women, than the low quality, german, let's-hope-this-glue-doesn't-dissolve-before-the-end-of-the-warranty interior of the Cayman.

However, in value, getting a new car is in essence better than used if they are both the same price. So, assuming one has the option of a used GTR and a new Cayman who will be able to maintain the car no matter which it is, what is the better choice? I hope that, thus far, I have stirred some indignant rebuttals within any users of this forum, for the very reason I posted this biased thread on a 370z forum instead of an impartial forum is because I would like to see the opinions of those biased toward 370z.

Thank you for your input.

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b1adesofcha0s A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Jan 2011 Location: MD Posts: 40,963 Drives: HypeTrain Choo Choo! Rep Power: 142	I've known like 4 or 5 ppl that owned a Z and none had any major issues. My cousin had a Porsche Boxster a few years ago whose engine caught on fire. He had been to the Porsche dealership 2-3 times complaining about engine noise and they said it was nothing. Then his engine caught on fire. Luckily he wasn't hurt and still had like a few hundred miles on his warranty to it was replaced for free. Just giving my experience with Porsche.

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CBRich A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Apr 2009 Location: SC Posts: 2,464 Drives: 370Z Rep Power: 544	So, when did the 370 beat you? Was your girlfriend/wife with you? Were you embarassed? I'm so sorry, really.

02-05-2011, 04:14 PM	#5 (permalink)
mick Track Member Join Date: Jan 2010 Location: California Posts: 903 Drives: Used to drive a 370z Rep Power: 17	this is what nissan had to say about this topic it's one of their commercials in europe

02-05-2011, 04:31 PM	#7 (permalink)
sucasa Base Member Join Date: Jan 2011 Location: DC Posts: 156 Drives: 2010 370Z Rep Power: 15	In all seriousness, i have no issues examining both cars.. but you have to realize nissan 370z and porsche Cayman are going after different market segments with different expectations. In my opinion, Nissan Z will and always appeal to drivers who want a fast affordable, reliable, and legendary car that comes with a established pedigree. Porsche also have a great racing history but w/ their 911s. That model is night and day difference than the Cayman. The Cayman is Porsche's attempt to gain entry in lower price point, by leveraging their name, history, and prestige. Good for them, but it's no 911. To some, Cayman will be a great choice, but like any German high end car, be prepared for much higher maintenance costs, and options as described earlier. I haven't owned a Cayman, but my friend has a 911, and I owned a SL500 previously, so I do speak from experience. Yearly maintenance costs would be around $2000+. If you are willing to play, then, be prepared to pay. Nissan has made significant advancements to their Z car, and each generation has gotten better. This is my first Z, and I am very pleased with it.

02-05-2011, 05:27 PM	#9 (permalink)
mick Track Member Join Date: Jan 2010 Location: California Posts: 903 Drives: Used to drive a 370z Rep Power: 17	for the money, i think i would rather have one roadster, one 40th anniversary, and one nismo than just one 911

02-05-2011, 06:13 PM	#15 (permalink)
ThoriumHotdog A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Sep 2010 Location: TX Posts: 1,104 Drives: Turbo CRX si Rep Power: 17	In the $52-$88k range, you can buy a brand new Porsche Cayman. On the higher end of that range, you can also get a slightly used '10 Nissan GTR and in the midranges, you can get a slightly used Nissan GTR from years anywhere from '08 to '09. The Cayman has better prices, but the GTR is put in an entirely different class of motorsport when it comes to comparison. Thus far, the Nissan GTR goes undefeated in all of its comparisons, not only to more affordable cars such as the Cayman, but also to cars in the price range of new Cayman R's (67's, 82's). I myself err toward the GTR and its refined passion for sportsmanship, on the basis of its perfect balance and twin turbo monster all wheel drive. As far as value, however, the guys at Porsche will charge you for almost everything. For example, if you want automatic climate control, that is an option. Xenon headlamps, that is an option. Things that are found for free on other cars are all options on the Cayman. So the conclusion I reach is that, as far as passion goes, the Cayman is just a riceburner compared to the undeniable king of the circuit, the GTR. Thing is, the open highways are nothing like a circuit, and how often will that highest-corner-exit-speed-in-the-world come into play on the roads? At the same time, the interior of the GTR, even including less options, seems much more suited to crushing your enemies, seeing them driven before you, and to hearing the lamentation of their women, than the low quality, german, let's-hope-this-glue-doesn't-dissolve-before-the-end-of-the-warranty interior of the Cayman. However, in value, getting a new car is in essence better than used if they are both the same price. So, assuming one has the option of a used GTR and a new Cayman who will be able to maintain the car no matter which it is, what is the better choice? I hope that, thus far, I have stirred some indignant rebuttals within any users of this forum, for the very reason I posted this biased thread on a 370z forum instead of an impartial forum is because I would like to see the opinions of those biased toward 370z. Thank you for your input.