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spearfish25 02-03-2011 12:03 PM

Is the Z the ugly duck now?
 
I've seen numerous articles in magazines comparing new sports car models with slightly older models. However, the Z almost never gets mentioned anymore. For example, the FT-86 speculation pegs it agains the BMW 1M and TTS. No Z mention. I've seen this time and again lately with various models. So is the Z an ugly duck now or is it considered to be in some lesser category than the TTS, 1M, FT-86, etc etc?

partsguy 02-03-2011 12:07 PM

What's an F-86?

shadoquad 02-03-2011 12:10 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by spearfish25 (Post 924890)
I've seen numerous articles in magazines comparing new sports car models with slightly older models. However, the Z almost never gets mentioned anymore. For example, the FT-86 speculation pegs it agains the BMW 1M and TTS. No Z mention. I've seen this time and again lately with various models. So is the Z an ugly duck now or is it considered to be in some lesser category than the TTS, 1M, FT-86, etc etc?

Well, it's not a world beater in sales numbers, but not even Nissan is really pressing the marketing on it. But it was not hyped all that much last year, either.
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Originally Posted by partsguy (Post 924901)
What's an F-86?

Let me google that for you

Zaggeron 02-03-2011 12:16 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by spearfish25 (Post 924890)
I've seen numerous articles in magazines comparing new sports car models with slightly older models. However, the Z almost never gets mentioned anymore. For example, the FT-86 speculation pegs it agains the BMW 1M and TTS. No Z mention. I've seen this time and again lately with various models. So is the Z an ugly duck now or is it considered to be in some lesser category than the TTS, 1M, FT-86, etc etc?

It could be that they are comparing 2+2 coupes which is what the BMW 1M, TTS and FT-86 all are.

m4a1mustang 02-03-2011 12:19 PM

The Z isn't "fresh" anymore and yeah it's probably mainly a 2+2 comparo. The Z is more in the Cayman/Boxster/Z4 crowd than anything else.

theDreamer 02-03-2011 12:23 PM

Well with the FT86 there is still a lot of rumors of where it will land, 1M or down with the Gen coupe 2.0T.
The Z hit its stride already and has nothing new to offer from Nissan until an engine update or a style update.

PapoZalsa 02-03-2011 12:56 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by partsguy (Post 924901)
What's an F-86?

FT-86! There are numerous thread about this and is the new Toyota/Subaru Sport Car that they are working on.

Check the Other Vehicles Thread Section.

http://www.the370z.com/other-vehicle...t-86-fr-s.html



Quote:

Originally Posted by spearfish25 (Post 924890)
I've seen numerous articles in magazines comparing new sports car models with slightly older models. However, the Z almost never gets mentioned anymore. For example, the FT-86 speculation pegs it agains the BMW 1M and TTS. No Z mention. I've seen this time and again lately with various models. So is the Z an ugly duck now or is it considered to be in some lesser category than the TTS, 1M, FT-86, etc etc?

The 370Z had less marketing than the 350Z, however it is the best bang for the buck. I don't care comparision with other cars, I like my 370Z and that's it!

TypeOne 02-03-2011 01:17 PM

I'm waiting on the FT production version to come out... I hope the interior doesn't look like the prototypes!

ProfessorDave 02-03-2011 01:20 PM

I have a hard time believing that toyota will put out a 300HP coupe to compete with the Z. Still, the concept looks nice.

theDreamer 02-03-2011 01:23 PM

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Originally Posted by ProfessorDave (Post 925043)
I have a hard time believing that toyota will put out a 300HP coupe to compete with the Z. Still, the concept looks nice.

Well, technically it does not need 300HP to compete with the Z but it would require them to meet the weight of 2500lbs.

kenchan 02-03-2011 01:29 PM

yah, i think it has to do with how many seats the car has.

so we are compared to the miata. :icon14:

Lug 02-03-2011 02:02 PM

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Originally Posted by kenchan (Post 925061)
yah, i think it has to do with how many seats the car has.

so we are compared to the miata. :icon14:

Catagories and their weight in the overall analysis:

Slalom & Skidpad: 10%

0-60 and 1/4 mile: 20%

Fit, finish, and interior: 10%

Door integrity: 60%


We don't stand a chance. :(

m4a1mustang 02-03-2011 02:04 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Lug (Post 925132)
Catagories and their weight in the overall analysis:

Slalom & Skidpad: 10%

0-60 and 1/4 mile: 20%

Fit, finish, and interior: 10%

Door integrity: 60%

We don't stand a chance. :(

:bowrofl:

:bowrofl:

:roflpuke2:

kenchan 02-03-2011 02:07 PM

i LOL'ed.

Footloose301 02-03-2011 02:21 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Lug (Post 925132)
Catagories and their weight in the overall analysis:

Slalom & Skidpad: 10%

0-60 and 1/4 mile: 20%

Fit, finish, and interior: 10%

Door integrity: 60%


We don't stand a chance. :(

:icon18:

370zproject 02-03-2011 02:28 PM

im fine with that
is a great car and less d-bags will buy it

Mt Tam I am 02-03-2011 02:50 PM

I still have people ask me what kind of car I'm driving. And what a beauty it is. Yesterday was "well what happened to the 360 after the 350Z?" I just told him that naming a car the 360 might make it seem like it spins out alot. :icon17: He accepted the answer.

b1adesofcha0s 02-03-2011 02:51 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 370zproject (Post 925175)
im fine with that
is a great car and less d-bags will buy it

:iagree:

blue660r01 02-03-2011 02:55 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by shadoquad (Post 924903)

LOL! I always get in trouble from mods when I do that to people.

6spd 02-03-2011 02:55 PM

as far as i can remember, this car never really got that much attention to begin with, except the general disapproval of the fangs when it first came out.

shadoquad 02-03-2011 03:10 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by blue660r01 (Post 925222)
LOL! I always get in trouble from mods when I do that to people.

I wonder why.:confused:

spearfish25 02-03-2011 03:25 PM

Didn't think of the 2+2 difference. My father has a TTS roadster (no back seat), so it seemed more akin to the Z. But the coupe probably does have the midget back seats.

If the FT-86 comes in under 3,000 lbs and has the STI 300hp motor...goodnight 370Z. There is even talk of an inline 6-cyl. Definitely has my attention.

Mt Tam I am 02-03-2011 03:37 PM

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Originally Posted by shadoquad (Post 925252)
I wonder why.:confused:

No SH1T you've got skills! Epic. How did you make the "let me google that for you work?" I feel like an old man just asking. Not that I'm young either.

theDreamer 02-03-2011 03:38 PM

Let me google that for you

Go here.

christian370z 02-03-2011 03:39 PM

I am kind of disappointed it doesn't receive more press. It is a competitive car in its category and some of the cars that it competes with still get thrown into regular comparisons to this day.

shadoquad 02-03-2011 03:39 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mt Tam I am (Post 925315)
No SH1T you've got skills! Epic. How did you make the "let me google that for you work?" I feel like an old man just asking. Not that I'm young either.

hahaha

PapoZalsa 02-03-2011 03:40 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mt Tam I am (Post 925315)
No SH1T you've got skills! Epic. How did you make the "let me google that for you work?" I feel like an old man just asking. Not that I'm young either.

:iagree:

corner3garage 02-03-2011 03:53 PM

Personally, I dont think the ft86 is going to outperform the 370z. the suspension design is going to be macpherson front(inferior to double wishbone) and for the price i think it targets mostly the 2.0t genesis market, which means it will have less power.

fullmonty 02-03-2011 04:16 PM

The design of the FT-86s doors was actually subcontracted out to Mazda. Simply put the 370Z can no longer compete in the market and therefore production should be stopped.

shadoquad 02-03-2011 04:18 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by fullmonty (Post 925404)
The design of the FT-86s doors was actually subcontracted out to Mazda. Simply put the 370Z can no longer compete in the market and therefore production should be stopped.

Not necessarily. I heard a rumor that the doors were Miata "replicas", and therefore will burst into flames around every turn.

kenchan 02-03-2011 04:22 PM

the Z's like the "CEO" of some mom/pop shop. the Mr.CEO is the only guy working for that company. :D

silly like tiny companys have all executives and no staff.

partsguy 02-03-2011 04:24 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by spearfish25 (Post 924890)

Thank you for the warm welcome.

shadoquad 02-03-2011 04:26 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by partsguy (Post 925415)
Thank you for the warm welcome.

lol I did it to you first, but it was meant as a joke, man. I'm sorry if it upset you or anything. It was a perfectly innocent question.

partsguy 02-03-2011 04:28 PM

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Originally Posted by shadoquad (Post 925422)
lol I did it to you first, but it was meant as a joke, man. I'm sorry if it upset you or anything. It was a perfectly innocent question.

Yes, and I thought my question was too.

shadoquad 02-03-2011 04:31 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by partsguy (Post 925428)
Yes, and I thought my question was too.

I mean that your question was innocent. I was trolling you for laughs. I didn't mean anything personal. I hope you find this place fun and informative, although I was a little hard on you. :tup:

plz forgive me?

UNKNOWN_370 02-03-2011 04:35 PM

Lol... I can't believe the MIATA door jokes are still going strong. Can someone find that thread please? I need a good laugh.
:roflpuke2:

Shamu 02-03-2011 05:24 PM

This guy thinks Z's are sexy.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q2KCtOz5T-U&feature=related

m4a1mustang 02-03-2011 05:30 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by UNKNOWN_370 (Post 925450)
Lol... I can't believe the MIATA door jokes are still going strong. Can someone find that thread please? I need a good laugh.
:roflpuke2:

http://www.the370z.com/nissan-370z-g...urned-off.html

toner123 02-03-2011 05:53 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by m4a1mustang (Post 925525)

GDI how did I miss that thread errr


Also can you teach me how to do that google thingy you did was funny as hell. For the record i laughed

ProfessorDave 02-03-2011 05:56 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mt Tam I am (Post 925211)
I still have people ask me what kind of car I'm driving. And what a beauty it is. Yesterday was "well what happened to the 360 after the 350Z?" I just told him that naming a car the 360 might make it seem like it spins out alot. :icon17: He accepted the answer.

:bowrofl:


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