Is the Z the ugly duck now?

Lemers · 02-03-2011, 09:22 PM

Do you really need a magazine to write an article about the Z toreenforce your decision of buying the Z in the first place?

Now that I'm an owner the only articles I need to read about the Z is ones about tuning it.

GZ3 · 02-03-2011, 09:49 PM

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Originally Posted by Lemers

Do you really need a magazine to write an article about the Z toreenforce your decision of buying the Z in the first place?

Now that I'm an owner the only articles I need to read about the Z is ones about tuning it.

this statement need to be engraved or immortalized some how

Junior370z · 02-03-2011, 11:12 PM

My Z has my attention... That's all that matters to me.

m4a1mustang · 02-03-2011, 11:18 PM

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Originally Posted by GZ3

this statement need to be engraved or immortalized some how

Notwithstanding a permanent loss of data, you just did.

pulpz · 02-04-2011, 08:52 PM

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Originally Posted by m4a1mustang

It's the 2+2 thing, man.

The Z competes with other 2-seaters like the Boxster, Cayman, Z4, etc. They are, by definition, sports cars.

The Mustang, Camaro, Genesis, G37, and other 2+2 2 doors are all sport coupes.

I get what you are saying, and you might be right. But if that's their thinking its not articulated in the comparos, and its not a good reason to not more frequently feature the Z.

But I have to somewhat disagree with the Boxter, Caymen, Z4 - category.

Z-Roadster does fit in the same category with Boxster and Z4 but at a disadvantage because of price over performance, and architecture. Z is designed first and foremost as a coupe hatchback.

Caymen is almost ~2X the price of a Z. And frankly, as much as I love the Z, its no Porsche Cayman. So I think its a stretch to put both in the same category.

I still feel like the mags have exiled the Z. If they loved it, it would be featured in 3-4 major articles a year.

SPOHN · 02-04-2011, 08:58 PM

We are a secert Zociety

definitionxmk · 02-05-2011, 10:11 AM

^I like to keep it that way

spearfish25 · 02-05-2011, 10:16 AM

I didn't mean for the post to be a complaint. I'm just surprised the Z doesn't come up as a comparison as often as I'd expect. When the magazines compare new models to older cars, some seem very obvious comparisons to the Z, yet the Z goes unmentioned. Not a big deal...just an observation.

Vegitto-kun · 02-05-2011, 10:22 AM

Its because they already know the Z will win like always.

Junior370z · 02-05-2011, 11:34 AM

The Z is ranked 3rd. Here you go.

2011 Nissan 370Z Reviews, Pictures and Prices - U.S. News Rankings and Reviews

ProfessorDave · 02-05-2011, 11:46 AM

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Originally Posted by Lemers

Do you really need a magazine to write an article about the Z toreenforce your decision of buying the Z in the first place?

I had to read that word three times before I understood it. Now I'm going to use it all the time

pulpz · 02-05-2011, 12:59 PM

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Originally Posted by Junior370z

The Z is ranked 3rd. Here you go.

2011 Nissan 370Z Reviews, Pictures and Prices - U.S. News Rankings and Reviews

LOL. Not sure how they're doing their math. Half the categories are incomplete with N/A.

Miata outperforms all other cars in the class?

Miata 8.9
Genesis. 8.0
370Z 8.5
RX8 8.3
Eclipse 7.2

How they computed the overall score for the Genesis is beyond me - how does the overall score exceed the value of the score in any one category:

Overall: 8.5
Performance: 8.0
Exterior: NA
Interior: 7.2
Safety: NA
Reliability: NA

Qualitative scoring ? Highly subjective - -I'm guessing the reviewer owns a miata.

Lemers · 02-05-2011, 01:34 PM

The Miata got extra points due to it's door construction.

spearfish25 · 02-05-2011, 03:07 PM

Hilarious that Exterior is NA for the Genesis. I guess looking at the car from outside the vehicle was off limits that day.

Z interior 6.9. That's pretty harsh compared to the competitor scores.

m4a1mustang · 02-05-2011, 03:40 PM

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Originally Posted by pulpz

I get what you are saying, and you might be right. But if that's their thinking its not articulated in the comparos, and its not a good reason to not more frequently feature the Z.

But I have to somewhat disagree with the Boxter, Caymen, Z4 - category.

Z-Roadster does fit in the same category with Boxster and Z4 but at a disadvantage because of price over performance, and architecture. Z is designed first and foremost as a coupe hatchback.

Caymen is almost ~2X the price of a Z. And frankly, as much as I love the Z, its no Porsche Cayman. So I think its a stretch to put both in the same category.

I still feel like the mags have exiled the Z. If they loved it, it would be featured in 3-4 major articles a year.

That's a BS excuse because Nissan themselves said the whole point of the 370Z was to go after the Porsche Cayman. Aside from the fact that it's in the same class (2 seat sports car) the Z is up against that kind of competition because Nissan explicitly said that's who they are going after.

The only reason the Z competes with the Mustang/Genesis/Camaro/etc. is price only. I've owned both and I'm telling you they are completely different cars. Not even close to being in the same class. There's a reason I haven't written any extensive 370Z vs. 5.0 comparo on this site or any of the Mustang ones... they are just too different.

02-03-2011, 09:22 PM	#46 (permalink)
Lemers A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Mar 2010 Location: Izmir, Turkey Posts: 15,371 Drives: 2012 Traverse LTZ Rep Power: 52	Do you really need a magazine to write an article about the Z toreenforce your decision of buying the Z in the first place? Now that I'm an owner the only articles I need to read about the Z is ones about tuning it. __________________ 2010 Black Cherry Touring/Sport/Nav Now - 2012 Travese LTZ until I leave for Turkey

02-03-2011, 11:12 PM	#48 (permalink)
Junior370z A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Apr 2009 Location: Las Vegas Age: 50 Posts: 1,024 Drives: over the speed limit Rep Power: 293	My Z has my attention... That's all that matters to me. __________________ DON'T DO IT! ( Click to show/hide ) Stillen CBECAI-U/D PulleyGround KitSwaysSetrab Oil CoolerIchiba Rear Camber KitAgility CoiloverBerk HFCTechnosquare TuneGT-R ButtonVenaci MeshSP Performance Cross Drilled/Slotted RotorsSPC Toe BoltsBomex LipMud flapsAero Jacket Type III WingSold

02-04-2011, 08:58 PM	#51 (permalink)
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02-05-2011, 10:16 AM	#53 (permalink)
spearfish25 A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: Naples, FL Posts: 4,117 Drives: to work Rep Power: 1856	I didn't mean for the post to be a complaint. I'm just surprised the Z doesn't come up as a comparison as often as I'd expect. When the magazines compare new models to older cars, some seem very obvious comparisons to the Z, yet the Z goes unmentioned. Not a big deal...just an observation. __________________ 2013 Cadillac V-Wagon, RIP Z

02-05-2011, 10:22 AM	#54 (permalink)
Vegitto-kun A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Feb 2010 Location: USA Posts: 2,011 Drives: 09 370Z Rep Power: 262	Its because they already know the Z will win like always.

02-05-2011, 11:34 AM	#55 (permalink)
Junior370z A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Apr 2009 Location: Las Vegas Age: 50 Posts: 1,024 Drives: over the speed limit Rep Power: 293	The Z is ranked 3rd. Here you go. 2011 Nissan 370Z Reviews, Pictures and Prices - U.S. News Rankings and Reviews __________________ DON'T DO IT! ( Click to show/hide ) Stillen CBECAI-U/D PulleyGround KitSwaysSetrab Oil CoolerIchiba Rear Camber KitAgility CoiloverBerk HFCTechnosquare TuneGT-R ButtonVenaci MeshSP Performance Cross Drilled/Slotted RotorsSPC Toe BoltsBomex LipMud flapsAero Jacket Type III WingSold

02-05-2011, 01:34 PM	#58 (permalink)
Lemers A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Mar 2010 Location: Izmir, Turkey Posts: 15,371 Drives: 2012 Traverse LTZ Rep Power: 52	The Miata got extra points due to it's door construction. __________________ 2010 Black Cherry Touring/Sport/Nav Now - 2012 Travese LTZ until I leave for Turkey

02-05-2011, 03:07 PM	#59 (permalink)
spearfish25 A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: Naples, FL Posts: 4,117 Drives: to work Rep Power: 1856	Hilarious that Exterior is NA for the Genesis. I guess looking at the car from outside the vehicle was off limits that day. Z interior 6.9. That's pretty harsh compared to the competitor scores. __________________ 2013 Cadillac V-Wagon, RIP Z Last edited by spearfish25; 02-05-2011 at 03:10 PM.

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