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Old 02-03-2011, 09:22 PM   #46 (permalink)
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Do you really need a magazine to write an article about the Z toreenforce your decision of buying the Z in the first place?

Now that I'm an owner the only articles I need to read about the Z is ones about tuning it.
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Do you really need a magazine to write an article about the Z toreenforce your decision of buying the Z in the first place?

Now that I'm an owner the only articles I need to read about the Z is ones about tuning it.
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It's the 2+2 thing, man.

The Z competes with other 2-seaters like the Boxster, Cayman, Z4, etc. They are, by definition, sports cars.

The Mustang, Camaro, Genesis, G37, and other 2+2 2 doors are all sport coupes.
I get what you are saying, and you might be right. But if that's their thinking its not articulated in the comparos, and its not a good reason to not more frequently feature the Z.

But I have to somewhat disagree with the Boxter, Caymen, Z4 - category.

Z-Roadster does fit in the same category with Boxster and Z4 but at a disadvantage because of price over performance, and architecture. Z is designed first and foremost as a coupe hatchback.

Caymen is almost ~2X the price of a Z. And frankly, as much as I love the Z, its no Porsche Cayman. So I think its a stretch to put both in the same category.

I still feel like the mags have exiled the Z. If they loved it, it would be featured in 3-4 major articles a year.
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I didn't mean for the post to be a complaint. I'm just surprised the Z doesn't come up as a comparison as often as I'd expect. When the magazines compare new models to older cars, some seem very obvious comparisons to the Z, yet the Z goes unmentioned. Not a big deal...just an observation.
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Its because they already know the Z will win like always.

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Do you really need a magazine to write an article about the Z toreenforce your decision of buying the Z in the first place?
I had to read that word three times before I understood it. Now I'm going to use it all the time
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LOL. Not sure how they're doing their math. Half the categories are incomplete with N/A.

Miata outperforms all other cars in the class?

Miata 8.9
Genesis. 8.0
370Z 8.5
RX8 8.3
Eclipse 7.2

How they computed the overall score for the Genesis is beyond me - how does the overall score exceed the value of the score in any one category:

Overall: 8.5
Performance: 8.0
Exterior: NA
Interior: 7.2
Safety: NA
Reliability: NA

Qualitative scoring ? Highly subjective - -I'm guessing the reviewer owns a miata.
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The Miata got extra points due to it's door construction.
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Hilarious that Exterior is NA for the Genesis. I guess looking at the car from outside the vehicle was off limits that day.

Z interior 6.9. That's pretty harsh compared to the competitor scores.
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I get what you are saying, and you might be right. But if that's their thinking its not articulated in the comparos, and its not a good reason to not more frequently feature the Z.

But I have to somewhat disagree with the Boxter, Caymen, Z4 - category.

Z-Roadster does fit in the same category with Boxster and Z4 but at a disadvantage because of price over performance, and architecture. Z is designed first and foremost as a coupe hatchback.

Caymen is almost ~2X the price of a Z. And frankly, as much as I love the Z, its no Porsche Cayman. So I think its a stretch to put both in the same category.

I still feel like the mags have exiled the Z. If they loved it, it would be featured in 3-4 major articles a year.
That's a BS excuse because Nissan themselves said the whole point of the 370Z was to go after the Porsche Cayman. Aside from the fact that it's in the same class (2 seat sports car) the Z is up against that kind of competition because Nissan explicitly said that's who they are going after.

The only reason the Z competes with the Mustang/Genesis/Camaro/etc. is price only. I've owned both and I'm telling you they are completely different cars. Not even close to being in the same class. There's a reason I haven't written any extensive 370Z vs. 5.0 comparo on this site or any of the Mustang ones... they are just too different.
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