2011 370z sales

Bonzo · 10-20-2011, 08:45 PM

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Originally Posted by krzykanuk

Is that worldwide or just US?

All those numbers came from posts made by dad***, I just consolidated so dad will have to confirm, but I THINK those are world wide production numbers. I could be totally wrong, but I think at the very least it's U.S. numbers.

***Note: I started this tally about 6 months ago so dad may not be the only source, I forget. But I got all the information from this forum from other threads. It was just a matter of putting it all in an Excel spreadsheet.

Bonzo · 10-20-2011, 08:52 PM

One thing I think these numbers should do is quiet down any terds here bitching about why hasn't Nissan made major cosmetic or performance changes YET, only after 3 years. I mean what are people thinking really. 10,000 cars a year for a company as large as Nissan is not something you change everytime the wind blows.

Now oil coolers and brakes are another topic, a topic there are already 17,000 threads about. So don't go there here please.

DJ-of-E · 10-20-2011, 08:58 PM

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Originally Posted by Red__Zed

long term, electricity in cars is a good thing (especially because the move to more widely used supercaps is going to make me filthy rich). Short term, it sucks. Companies are half-assing designs and they sell because they are "eco friendly"

Have you ever driven a engineering college built electric car on a drag strip? I did.....FUCKEN FAST!

Red__Zed · 10-20-2011, 08:59 PM

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Originally Posted by DJ-of-E

Have you ever driven a engineering college built electric car on a drag strip? I did.....FUCKEN FAST!

only a gas/electric dune buggy. instant torque is amazing.

m4a1mustang · 10-20-2011, 09:16 PM

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Originally Posted by Red__Zed

only a gas/electric dune buggy. instant torque is amazing.

I like torque.

Exhaust discussion is going to be fun when we are all driving electric cars. "Hey guys, check out this new .mp3 exhaust file I made."

Red__Zed · 10-20-2011, 09:18 PM

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Originally Posted by m4a1mustang

I like torque.

Exhaust discussion is going to be fun when we are all driving electric cars. "Hey guys, check out this new .mp3 exhaust file I made."

blargh, i hate all those ricers running around with their 65mbps exhaust notes...i can practically hear the pause between samples.

b1adesofcha0s · 10-20-2011, 10:44 PM

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Originally Posted by m4a1mustang

I like torque.

Exhaust discussion is going to be fun when we are all driving electric cars. "Hey guys, check out this new .mp3 exhaust file I made."

Quote:

Originally Posted by Red__Zed

blargh, i hate all those ricers running around with their 65mbps exhaust notes...i can practically hear the pause between samples.

Damn I like that exhaust note on your Nissan, do you know where I can get a file converter so I can use it on my Ford?

Nismoracer · 10-21-2011, 12:45 AM

I would say sales numbers are down cuz of the economy, tsunami, mustangs,camaros,challengers, and people getting fatter. And people still hating imports not knowing their american car is made in mexico and canada.

autopc25 · 10-21-2011, 09:58 AM

The economy has a lot to do with it, it's back to "needs and wants". The 370Z arrived at a bad time, right in the middle of a Global economic crisis. 2 seat sports cars are not practical for most people. When people loose jobs or have no faith in the economy they scale back and only buy what is needed not what they want. The bad press about dangerous brakes and over heating oil did not help either.

The end of '09 was horrific for the 2 seat sport car market. Winter was on the way for most States, the economy was boiling over and car companies were dumping huge incentives to unload unsold 2 seat sport cars. It's not the 370Z either, numbers are down for everyone. At the end of '09 Porsche was dumping all cars for 23%-25% off MSRP and cut NA allocations by 40% for '10-'11. Miata always had huge discounts at the end of the year, about $6K off. Mazda dealers were calling back offering about 22% off MSRP. 15% off Corvettes.

A interesting thing about the Tsunami. It and the economy created a "perfect storm" in the car market for some people. New supply was reduced after May due to the tsunami. There was almost no production. Demand for used cars went up. I know someone who bought a brand new left over '09 Z in late '10 for huge money off invoice because of the economy. They just sold the car private party for $500 less then what they paid for it brand new after driving it for 14 months! That will never happen again.

Mustangs and Camaros have rear seats so that helps with their sales and base prices are lower.

m4a1mustang · 10-21-2011, 10:05 AM

"It's the economy, stupid!"

I think that's really all it is. It was mentioned earlier that Nissan intentionally produces a low number to protect the Z's image... that's not true. If Nissan could sell 100k of these a year they would do it in a heartbeat. The fact that they planned on 30k in sales in the first year and approved the project on that assumption and now have only sold around 28k three years in shows just how bad things are. I mean we are at 9.2% unemployment if you like to go off the numbers that the government gives us. Real unemployment is actually over 15% if you count the people that have given up on looking for work.

It is VERY difficult for a 2 seat sports car like the Z to thrive in this economy, especially given how competitive the 30-40k segment is.

It is very tough out there. Even cars like the Mustang 5.0 and the Camaro SS are struggling compared to how they have sold in better economic times. If it wasn't for the V6 models those cars would be in the same situation as the Z.

Cmike2780 · 10-21-2011, 02:48 PM

^^ Totally agree. Not just unemployment though... people with the same job 10 years ago are making less and have cut back significantly on descretionary spending. Throw in inflation into the mix and suddenly a splurge on a $40k sports car isn't as appealing. I think that's one of the reasons companies like Hyundai (Genesis Coupe), Toyota/Subaru (FT-86/BRZ) are targeting the sub $30k sporty coupe market. Those that can still afford to splurge will likely venture upmarket, while those who could barely afford the 370Z will likely look towards something more affordable. I think $30K-50k sports car segment is gonna thin out even more if the economic slump continues. Overall though, I think all affordable sports cars are in trouble in the short term. Power specs appeal to the new car buyers in this segment, and with the Mustang and Camaro getting bumps in that department, the Z is gonna be less appealing. It's all about ego's and image when it come to sports cars after all.

m4a1mustang · 10-21-2011, 02:49 PM

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Originally Posted by Cmike2780

^^ Totally agree. Not just unemployment though... people with the same job 10 years ago are making less and have cut back significantly on descretionary spending. Throw in inflation into the mix and suddenly a splurge on a $40k sports car isn't as appealing. I think that's one of the reasons companies like Hyundai (Genesis Coupe), Toyota/Subaru (FT-86/BRZ) are targeting the sub $30k sporty coupe market. Those that can still afford to splurge will likely venture upmarket, while those who could barely afford the 370Z will likely look towards something more affordable. I think $30K-50k sports car segment is gonna thin out even more if the economic slump continues. Overall though, I think all affordable sports cars are in trouble in the short term. Power specs appeal to the new car buyers in this segment, and with the Mustang and Camaro getting bumps in that department, the Z is gonna be less appealing. It's all about ego's and image when it come to sports cars after all.

Absolutely true. We could go on and on about this, especially how "core inflation" is a joke.

dad · 06-04-2012, 11:54 PM

2011----------------------2010
Jan..567------------------ 673
Feb..571------------------699
Mar..974-----------------1,095
April.942------------------ 952
May..847-----------------1,217
June.644-------------------892
July..550-------------------976
Aug..517-------------------823
Sept..469-------------------787
Oct..442--------------------745
Nov..356--------------------630
Dec..449---------------------726

Drex · 06-04-2012, 11:58 PM

almost 3k less than 2010

AlphaSnacks · 06-05-2012, 12:01 AM

The Z being so limited is a very very good thing for the owners. Nissan builds what's ordered, be it by the customer or dealership. The 370Z has the 2nd best resale value for a sports coupe, behind the 335i and ahead of the Audi A5/S5. Not even the G37 can make that claim.

Nissan truly got it right with the 370Z in more ways than one. Owners can look forward to keeping their cars for a long time and still getting a lot of money back for them if they decide to sell.

10-20-2011, 08:52 PM	#107 (permalink)
Bonzo Track Member Join Date: Oct 2009 Location: Ohio Posts: 690 Drives: Finally, a 370Z!!! Rep Power: 3372	One thing I think these numbers should do is quiet down any terds here bitching about why hasn't Nissan made major cosmetic or performance changes YET, only after 3 years. I mean what are people thinking really. 10,000 cars a year for a company as large as Nissan is not something you change everytime the wind blows. Now oil coolers and brakes are another topic, a topic there are already 17,000 threads about. So don't go there here please. __________________ Finally Able To Order 2012 Model 8/24/2011 Delivered Tuesday November 15, 9:57 am!!! 2012, Auto, White, Sport, Kick Plates

10-21-2011, 12:45 AM	#113 (permalink)
Nismoracer Enthusiast Member Join Date: Nov 2010 Location: Earth Posts: 420 Drives: 10 Nismo Rep Power: 15	I would say sales numbers are down cuz of the economy, tsunami, mustangs,camaros,challengers, and people getting fatter. And people still hating imports not knowing their american car is made in mexico and canada. Last edited by Nismoracer; 10-21-2011 at 12:48 AM.

10-21-2011, 09:58 AM	#114 (permalink)
autopc25 Base Member Join Date: May 2010 Location: 60610 Posts: 66 Drives: 2008 C6 Rep Power: 15	The economy has a lot to do with it, it's back to "needs and wants". The 370Z arrived at a bad time, right in the middle of a Global economic crisis. 2 seat sports cars are not practical for most people. When people loose jobs or have no faith in the economy they scale back and only buy what is needed not what they want. The bad press about dangerous brakes and over heating oil did not help either. The end of '09 was horrific for the 2 seat sport car market. Winter was on the way for most States, the economy was boiling over and car companies were dumping huge incentives to unload unsold 2 seat sport cars. It's not the 370Z either, numbers are down for everyone. At the end of '09 Porsche was dumping all cars for 23%-25% off MSRP and cut NA allocations by 40% for '10-'11. Miata always had huge discounts at the end of the year, about $6K off. Mazda dealers were calling back offering about 22% off MSRP. 15% off Corvettes. A interesting thing about the Tsunami. It and the economy created a "perfect storm" in the car market for some people. New supply was reduced after May due to the tsunami. There was almost no production. Demand for used cars went up. I know someone who bought a brand new left over '09 Z in late '10 for huge money off invoice because of the economy. They just sold the car private party for $500 less then what they paid for it brand new after driving it for 14 months! That will never happen again. Mustangs and Camaros have rear seats so that helps with their sales and base prices are lower. Last edited by autopc25; 10-21-2011 at 10:04 AM.

10-21-2011, 10:05 AM	#115 (permalink)
m4a1mustang A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: Northern VA Posts: 55,385 Drives: on two wheels Rep Power: 6962	"It's the economy, stupid!" I think that's really all it is. It was mentioned earlier that Nissan intentionally produces a low number to protect the Z's image... that's not true. If Nissan could sell 100k of these a year they would do it in a heartbeat. The fact that they planned on 30k in sales in the first year and approved the project on that assumption and now have only sold around 28k three years in shows just how bad things are. I mean we are at 9.2% unemployment if you like to go off the numbers that the government gives us. Real unemployment is actually over 15% if you count the people that have given up on looking for work. It is VERY difficult for a 2 seat sports car like the Z to thrive in this economy, especially given how competitive the 30-40k segment is. It is very tough out there. Even cars like the Mustang 5.0 and the Camaro SS are struggling compared to how they have sold in better economic times. If it wasn't for the V6 models those cars would be in the same situation as the Z. __________________ - Steve Zs & Coffee - Saturdays at 10AM in Fairfax, VA and Columbia, MD (Click the banner!) LIKE us on Facebook!

10-21-2011, 02:48 PM	#116 (permalink)
Cmike2780 A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Jun 2010 Location: Long Island Posts: 5,059 Drives: slowwww Rep Power: 29	^^ Totally agree. Not just unemployment though... people with the same job 10 years ago are making less and have cut back significantly on descretionary spending. Throw in inflation into the mix and suddenly a splurge on a $40k sports car isn't as appealing. I think that's one of the reasons companies like Hyundai (Genesis Coupe), Toyota/Subaru (FT-86/BRZ) are targeting the sub $30k sporty coupe market. Those that can still afford to splurge will likely venture upmarket, while those who could barely afford the 370Z will likely look towards something more affordable. I think $30K-50k sports car segment is gonna thin out even more if the economic slump continues. Overall though, I think all affordable sports cars are in trouble in the short term. Power specs appeal to the new car buyers in this segment, and with the Mustang and Camaro getting bumps in that department, the Z is gonna be less appealing. It's all about ego's and image when it come to sports cars after all. __________________ [09][MB][6-Spd MT][Touring][Stillen Gen III][K&N][Borla CBE][Evo-R] [ArchitTEK Photography]

06-04-2012, 11:54 PM	#118 (permalink)
dad Grand Prix of Endurance Join Date: Nov 2008 Location: Tennessee Posts: 3,476 Drives: Mulsanne Straight Rep Power: 26	2011----------------------2010 Jan..567------------------ 673 Feb..571------------------699 Mar..974-----------------1,095 April.942------------------ 952 May..847-----------------1,217 June.644-------------------892 July..550-------------------976 Aug..517-------------------823 Sept..469-------------------787 Oct..442--------------------745 Nov..356--------------------630 Dec..449---------------------726 __________________ We can do without any article of luxury we have never had; but once obtained, it is not in human nature to surrender it voluntary.

06-04-2012, 11:58 PM	#119 (permalink)
Drex Enthusiast Member Join Date: Apr 2011 Location: Maryland Posts: 498 Drives: '11 370z MB 6MT SP Rep Power: 14	almost 3k less than 2010 __________________ 2011 Nissan 370z \| 6MT \| Magnetic Black \| Sport Package

06-05-2012, 12:01 AM	#120 (permalink)
AlphaSnacks A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Jan 2010 Location: Windermere, FL Posts: 1,618 Drives: '13 XKR-S, '10 370Z Rep Power: 18	The Z being so limited is a very very good thing for the owners. Nissan builds what's ordered, be it by the customer or dealership. The 370Z has the 2nd best resale value for a sports coupe, behind the 335i and ahead of the Audi A5/S5. Not even the G37 can make that claim. Nissan truly got it right with the 370Z in more ways than one. Owners can look forward to keeping their cars for a long time and still getting a lot of money back for them if they decide to sell.

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