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UNKNOWN_370 05-18-2011 01:36 AM

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Originally Posted by dad (Post 1117661)
Car sales are not projected to return to normal until 2013, due to the economy.

Actually I saw last week, salees have increased. SUV and large veehicle drivers are trading for economical gas savers. The Chevy cruze has been the #1 seller for 2 months. Hybrid sales have also doubled. If you can imagine trucks are being highly discounted due to lack of sales.. Its 2008 all over again. This time its permenent.

dad 06-01-2011 08:01 PM

2011----------------------2010
Jan..567------------------ 673
Feb..571------------------699
Mar..974-----------------1,095
April.942------------------ 952
May..847-----------------1,217

TypeOne 06-02-2011 10:56 AM

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Originally Posted by UNKNOWN_370 (Post 1117832)
Not True. There are a lot of altima and maxima buyers that are saving every penny to finally have there Dream Z. When a car like this is cancelled. It also cancels the dreams for future sports car buyers.

Oh really? How do you know there are a lot of Altima and Maxima owners saving to buy a Z? I think that is a little far fetched.


Sports cars are canceled all the time... don't forget the Z was terminated once before. We have the success of the 350Z to thank for our 370s; If it was a flop in 2003 we'd all be on another forum talking about another car we drive.

SeattleLion 06-02-2011 05:08 PM

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Originally Posted by dad (Post 1146557)
2011----------------------2010
Jan..567------------------ 673
Feb..571------------------699
Mar..974-----------------1,095
April.942------------------ 952
May..847-----------------1,217


The numbers look proportionately right until we get to May 2011. I wonder if the slump in May had to do with low supply due to the earthquake.

If you look at the net change it is

Jan -106
Feb -128
Mar -121
Apr -10
May -370 (hmmm)

So if you normlize Jan-April, sales dropped an average of 91 cars a month. May's sales slipped very badly, about 30% year-over-year. 2010 wasn't a great year either, but not terrible considering the economy. The YTD average sales drop is 147 units a month compared with 2010. May really hurt the averages. But I suspect the real drop is in the 90-cars-a-month range with Japan's problems causing the May slump.

I don't know if Nissan is willing to take another 30% hit in 2012, if that is how they are forecasting. Two things need to happen to make a car maker believe that things will improve tomorrow (well, next year): 1. The economy will improve substantially; more employment, etc. and 2. gas prices will subside to below-$3.50 a gallon. Arguably, gas may need to go below $3.00 a gallon before people take a chance on a high-powered car like the Z.

Since car makers need at least two years lead time for a really new model, did Nissan decide to work on a new Z last year? I wonder. I think if I were in their shoes I would keep making the current 370 with only minor tweaks until the end of the recession and crazy oil prices are in sight. At this point it doesn't hurt Nissan to make/sell less Z's. The tooling and stuff is all paid for.

I hope they look ahead and see an expanding market for sports cars.

Dizon248 06-02-2011 06:39 PM

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Originally Posted by SeattleLion (Post 1148310)
The numbers look proportionately right until we get to May 2011. I wonder if the slump in May had to do with low supply due to the earthquake.

If you look at the net change it is

Jan -106
Feb -128
Mar -121
Apr -10
May -370 (hmmm)

So if you normlize Jan-April, sales dropped an average of 91 cars a month. May's sales slipped very badly, about 30% year-over-year. 2010 wasn't a great year either, but not terrible considering the economy. The YTD average sales drop is 147 units a month compared with 2010. May really hurt the averages. But I suspect the real drop is in the 90-cars-a-month range with Japan's problems causing the May slump.

I don't know if Nissan is willing to take another 30% hit in 2012, if that is how they are forecasting. Two things need to happen to make a car maker believe that things will improve tomorrow (well, next year): 1. The economy will improve substantially; more employment, etc. and 2. gas prices will subside to below-$3.50 a gallon. Arguably, gas may need to go below $3.00 a gallon before people take a chance on a high-powered car like the Z.

Since car makers need at least two years lead time for a really new model, did Nissan decide to work on a new Z last year? I wonder. I think if I were in their shoes I would keep making the current 370 with only minor tweaks until the end of the recession and crazy oil prices are in sight. At this point it doesn't hurt Nissan to make/sell less Z's. The tooling and stuff is all paid for.

I hope they look ahead and see an expanding market for sports cars.

It is because of the earthquake. If you look at all Japanese manufacturers' sales numbers for May (there's an article on it on autoblog) you see all of them suffering big time.

dad 06-03-2011 09:18 PM

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Originally Posted by Dizon248 (Post 1148523)
It is because of the earthquake. If you look at all Japanese manufacturers' sales numbers for May (there's an article on it on autoblog) you see all of them suffering big time.

There is no shortage of 370's in California! I did an inventory search of the following Nissan dealers. The following locations have that number of 370Z"s sitting on there lot. Plus there are a lot more dealers I didn't search! Don't blame the earth quake for dismal sales.
Oxnard-3
Thousand Oaks-1
Simi Valley-2
Woodland Hills-3
Santa Barbara-00
Valencia-3
Mission Hills-5
VanNuys-2
Santa Monica-3
Van Nuys-2
Universal City-7
Hawthorne-1
Hawthorne-1
Downtown L.A.-00
Glendale-1
Gardena-1
Carson-3
Alhambra-3
Downey-2
Signal Hill-5
Cerritos-2
Antelope-00

I count fifty, 370z's, base to Nismo's. Don't blame the earth quake.

dad 07-02-2011 01:58 PM

2011----------------------2010
Jan..567------------------ 673
Feb..571------------------699
Mar..974-----------------1,095
April.942------------------ 952
May..847-----------------1,217
June.644-------------------892

370Z_Fan 07-02-2011 03:32 PM

It looks like sales go up and down. There's no particular rhythm or rhyme so I don't understand why you guys are getting your panties in a bunch?

LONDON2012 07-03-2011 11:39 AM

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Originally Posted by 370Z_Fan (Post 1201284)
It looks like sales go up and down. There's no particular rhythm or rhyme so I don't understand why you guys are getting your panties in a bunch?

They are going down each month year over year. As far as within each year, sales are highest from early spring until mid summer. Then sales die off for the fall and winter as they should for a sports car.

I'm still hoping there will be a next gen Z, but I'm not too confident.

Nismo89 07-03-2011 11:59 AM

Proud to say... I contributed to the 2011 sales :)

dirtrat 07-03-2011 12:19 PM

Just out of curiousity, you think this is alot of 370Z's for a state that has 40 million people? Also I wonder how many of those are 2010 models?


Quote:

Originally Posted by dad (Post 1151018)
There is no shortage of 370's in California! I did an inventory search of the following Nissan dealers. The following locations have that number of 370Z"s sitting on there lot. Plus there are a lot more dealers I didn't search! Don't blame the earth quake for dismal sales.
Oxnard-3
Thousand Oaks-1
Simi Valley-2
Woodland Hills-3
Santa Barbara-00
Valencia-3
Mission Hills-5
VanNuys-2
Santa Monica-3
Van Nuys-2
Universal City-7
Hawthorne-1
Hawthorne-1
Downtown L.A.-00
Glendale-1
Gardena-1
Carson-3
Alhambra-3
Downey-2
Signal Hill-5
Cerritos-2
Antelope-00

I count fifty, 370z's, base to Nismo's. Don't blame the earth quake.


dad 07-03-2011 03:11 PM

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Originally Posted by dirtrat (Post 1202014)
Just out of curiousity, you think this is alot of 370Z's for a state that has 40 million people? Also I wonder how many of those are 2010 models?

Their all 2011 models!

fullmonty 07-03-2011 05:44 PM

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Originally Posted by dirtrat (Post 1202014)
Just out of curiousity, you think this is alot of 370Z's for a state that has 40 million people? Also I wonder how many of those are 2010 models?

Its not very many if you compare it to Mustangs

PapoZalsa 07-03-2011 05:51 PM

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Originally Posted by fullmonty (Post 1202240)
Its not very many if you compare it to Mustangs

Camaros and Challengers too!

AlphaSnacks 07-03-2011 05:56 PM

80K Camaros and 74K Mustangs were sold just in 2010.

Only 10k 370Zs were sold in 2010. LOL

USMC 07-04-2011 05:31 AM

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Originally Posted by Arnold K. (Post 1202253)
80K Camaros and 74K Mustangs were sold just in 2010.

Only 10k 370Zs were sold in 2010. LOL

You know, why is that? I don't understand how the muscle cars are still selling at such a high ratio compared to the Z's.

sboden 07-04-2011 09:33 AM

In the Kansas City area there were not any Z's available and I could only find 3 used ones. I'm also slowing the numbers down by buying used instead of new. A two seat sports car tends to get less miles put on it which means you can find a decent amount of low mileage excellent used versions. The car hasn't changed much and a lot of used 09's are showing up. The muscle cars have 4 seats thus can be used for family driving if needed, so more miles generally.

AlphaSnacks 07-04-2011 10:52 AM

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Originally Posted by USMC (Post 1202602)
You know, why is that? I don't understand how the muscle cars are still selling at such a high ratio compared to the Z's.

Bigger for the fatter American mass market, much more mass produced, cheaper sub-$25K entry models, 4-seats, trunk space, etc. They're a whole lot more practical cars. Where as Zs are purposeful vehicles - they're meant to be quick, agile, beautiful, and borderline exotic/somewhat exclusive alternatives to Porsches. Practicality is not a forte of our cars, and I'm happy - it makes for a much more focused car.

Since day 1 the Z always had a bone to pick with vehicles way out of its class - it was faster than some Ferraris and Porsches back in the day, for a fraction of the price.

NickBaragona 07-04-2011 11:17 AM

I would love to buy new, instead of used. Anybody think there are any new 40th's out there anymore?

GingaBreadMan 07-04-2011 12:18 PM

I don't see how a vehicle can survive selling so few cars. Other sports cars sell more in one year than the Z has sold in three.

AlphaSnacks 07-04-2011 03:11 PM

Not sure why that means a vehicle cant survive. Nissan builds as many as they know will sell. Theyll end up making money on every car sold because they can guarantee the car will end up in someones hand shortly after its build.

dad 08-02-2011 03:17 PM

2011----------------------2010
Jan..567------------------ 673
Feb..571------------------699
Mar..974-----------------1,095
April.942------------------ 952
May..847-----------------1,217
June.644-------------------892
July..550-------------------976

Kirkster 08-02-2011 04:03 PM

Economy is tanking... Sales are down...

DJ-of-E 08-02-2011 05:42 PM

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Originally Posted by Kirkster (Post 1242032)
Economy is tanking... Sales are down...

Not necessarily true, I stopped by few of the Nissan dealerships where I live...the 370zs are gone now :tup:

Mt Tam I am 08-03-2011 09:19 AM

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Originally Posted by dad (Post 1241933)
2011----------------------2010
Jan..567------------------ 673
Feb..571------------------699
Mar..974-----------------1,095
April.942------------------ 952
May..847-----------------1,217
June.644-------------------892
July..550-------------------976

Sugar coat it any way you want, this is a decreasing trend.

dad 08-03-2011 12:30 PM

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Originally Posted by Mt Tam I am (Post 1242874)
Sugar coat it any way you want, this is a decreasing trend.

2012 sales could be worse! No changes to the body, no increase in performance! :shakes head:

Montez 08-03-2011 12:39 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by dad (Post 1243204)
2012 sales could be worse! No changes to the body, no increase in performance! :shakes head:

I concur, at my dealership here in Dallas where the economy is not doing as bad as most places they have had some of the same Z's for over 6 months now.... Head Sales Mgr whom I know that I purchased my last 3 Nissans from said that they just aren't selling....

kenchan 08-03-2011 01:12 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Kirkster (Post 1242032)
Economy is tanking... Sales are down...

i think supply is low for june and july.

dad 09-01-2011 11:41 AM

2011----------------------2010
Jan..567------------------ 673
Feb..571------------------699
Mar..974-----------------1,095
April.942------------------ 952
May..847-----------------1,217
June.644-------------------892
July..550-------------------976
Aug..517-------------------823

kenchan 09-01-2011 11:43 AM

thanks for the info! :tup:

enkei2k 09-01-2011 04:02 PM

great information.

by the way, does anybody know what Nissan's target sales were? Like how many they expected to sell in any given year/month etc.

b1adesofcha0s 09-01-2011 04:43 PM

30k per year based on the sales of the 350Z. Don't know what their new goals are.

AlphaSnacks 09-01-2011 04:54 PM

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Originally Posted by enkei2k (Post 1293441)
great information.

by the way, does anybody know what Nissan's target sales were? Like how many they expected to sell in any given year/month etc.

Whatever they manufacture. Nissan doesn't produce as many 370Zs intentionally now. Their sales goals are low by default, unlike the 350Z which was highly incentivized and also was a car that returned after a very long 6 year hiatus.

dad 09-01-2011 10:43 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by b1adesofcha0s (Post 1293497)
30k per year based on the sales of the 350Z. Don't know what their new goals are.

Was 10K for the 2009's.

b1adesofcha0s 09-01-2011 10:45 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by dad (Post 1293981)
Was 10K for the 2009's.

:tup:

JZNx 09-02-2011 12:31 AM

Personally I wish less people buy Z...
That way its more unique =)...
Sorry if i am bit greedy in this area =)...
But last i want is 370z to end up like 350z... where u turn your head you see one...
But i feel though in near future, that is going to be the case=(

LONDON2012 10-03-2011 09:02 PM

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Originally Posted by JZNx (Post 1294058)
Personally I wish less people buy Z...
That way its more unique =)...
Sorry if i am bit greedy in this area =)...
But last i want is 370z to end up like 350z... where u turn your head you see one...
But i feel though in near future, that is going to be the case=(

That won't happen. By this point in the 350z life, sales were over 90k units. They haven't even moved 1/3 of that many 370z. Not enough sold to ever be common.

:happydance:

SS66 10-04-2011 08:29 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by UNKNOWN_370 (Post 1117832)
Not True. There are a lot of altima and maxima buyers that are saving every penny to finally have there Dream Z. When a car like this is cancelled. It also cancels the dreams for future sports car buyers.

Well I haver that covered. When my wife tires of her 2010 Maxima she can sell it and buy my 2011 370Z. Then I can go new car shopping. :tup:

Bonzo 10-20-2011 12:24 PM

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Cmike2780 10-20-2011 12:33 PM

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Originally Posted by Bonzo (Post 1368813)
Here are the totals in Excel format via PDF

Wow, really low numbers. I wonder how other sports cars in the same segment have done.

Weird, but I kind of feel glad there aren't so many. At the same time, I hope Nissan sells enough to develop a successor and keep the legacy going.


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