Car Theft by Antenna or Why Nissan's Intelligent Key System Sucks Anyway

SoCal 370Z · 01-25-2011, 06:28 PM

Car Theft by Antenna

Source: Technology Review by MIT

BuckeyeZ · 01-25-2011, 06:37 PM

As mentioned in the article, this is not just unique to Nissan.

Trips · 01-25-2011, 06:39 PM

The more reason to have your Z fully insured

christian370z · 01-25-2011, 06:48 PM

^Very much agreed, it would still suck though. If my car was ever stolen, I would rather not get it back to be honest.

SoCal 370Z · 01-25-2011, 06:48 PM

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Originally Posted by BuckeyeZ

As mentioned in the article, this is not just unique to Nissan.

Agreed, but Nissan prides itself on cost-cutting measures, and throwing-out the ancillary components that not only adds weight (for all the weight conscience 370Z owners) would reduce cost and weight. Besides, if a professional thief wants your Z—it's gone. AAA tried to initiate legislation against these systems as they say it is too costly for them and their roadside service.

Cmike2780 · 01-25-2011, 07:09 PM

Is there a way to block the signal from the keyfob? Kind of defeats the purpose if you have it in some kind of case in your pocket though. The range for the keyless entry in the Z is pretty short... I usually have to be at least 2 feet away for it to work. I believe some systems have it set farther away than others as demonstrated by Jerermy Clarkson on Top Gear with the Challenger. @4:00min

kenchan · 01-25-2011, 07:14 PM

They wont be able to steal our cars unless they bring spare IPDM's...so we're safe.

Trips · 01-25-2011, 07:17 PM

found the solution

SoCal 370Z · 01-25-2011, 07:18 PM

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Originally Posted by Triple's

found the solution

Quote:

Originally Posted by kenchan

They wont be able to steal our cars unless they bring spare IPDM's...so we're safe.

Rep points!!!

shumby · 01-25-2011, 07:43 PM

how is this any worse then a car key? ya your car can be stolen wow. I think we all knew that.

SoCal 370Z · 01-25-2011, 08:12 PM

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Originally Posted by shumby

how is this any worse then a car key? ya your car can be stolen wow. I think we all knew that.

It's not the aspect of being stolen—it's the aspect of being left high-n-dry through a failure of the 370Z's system itself, even though you're the owner.

The article shows how much time and energy car manufacturers have put into a system that is now defeated.

Hmmmm...Shumby, you got me wondering whether the failure of the 370Z's steering lock unit might related to the solenoid pin being held too tightly because owners' have the front wheels turned to the side and there is additional pressure against the pin? With a key ignition this situation is clearly present when you try to turn the key—on a steering column lock—and you can't until you have pulled the steering in the direction that relieves the pressure on the pin. In the 370Z one takes it for granted that the pin will simply release itself. When the pin is held it is surely not good on the pin's solenoid and could accelerate failure as the solenoid remains activated trying to dislodge the pin.

sonic370 · 01-25-2011, 08:34 PM

to me the worst thing about this post is a cadillac being faster than a 370....

i know v8 vs v6 but it still hurts....

PapoZalsa · 01-25-2011, 08:43 PM

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Originally Posted by sonic370

to me the worst thing about this post is a cadillac being faster than a 370....

i know v8 vs v6 but it still hurts....

NewlyIMPORTed · 01-26-2011, 01:40 AM

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Originally Posted by christian370z

^Very much agreed, it would still suck though. If my car was ever stolen, I would rather not get it back to be honest.

Yeah I hope If my car gets stolen the people blow it up so I do not have to take it back from the A$$'s who stole it and trashed it.

Xan · 01-26-2011, 01:45 AM

Full study: The future of how to steal a Z...

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Cmike2780 A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Jun 2010 Location: Long Island Posts: 5,059 Drives: slowwww Rep Power: 29	Is there a way to block the signal from the keyfob? Kind of defeats the purpose if you have it in some kind of case in your pocket though. The range for the keyless entry in the Z is pretty short... I usually have to be at least 2 feet away for it to work. I believe some systems have it set farther away than others as demonstrated by Jerermy Clarkson on Top Gear with the Challenger. @4:00min __________________ [09][MB][6-Spd MT][Touring][Stillen Gen III][K&N][Borla CBE][Evo-R] [ArchitTEK Photography]

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01-25-2011, 06:37 PM	#2 (permalink)
BuckeyeZ Enthusiast Member Join Date: Dec 2010 Location: Music City Posts: 291 Drives: 370Z BMW M4 Rep Power: 65	As mentioned in the article, this is not just unique to Nissan.

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kenchan A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Aug 2009 Location: N/A Posts: 76,801 Drives: N/A Rep Power: 141521	They wont be able to steal our cars unless they bring spare IPDM's...so we're safe.

01-25-2011, 07:43 PM	#10 (permalink)
shumby Captin Canuck Join Date: Dec 2008 Location: with your mom Age: 44 Posts: 6,288 Drives: your sister Rep Power: 236	how is this any worse then a car key? ya your car can be stolen wow. I think we all knew that. __________________ Originally Posted by SAM@GTM Engine detonation is not normal and it should never never happen, and whoever told that need to do something else for living . Sam

01-25-2011, 08:34 PM	#12 (permalink)
sonic370 A True Z Fanatic Join Date: May 2010 Location: Orange Texas Posts: 1,574 Drives: 09 370Z Sports PGK Rep Power: 18	to me the worst thing about this post is a cadillac being faster than a 370.... i know v8 vs v6 but it still hurts....

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Xan A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Jan 2010 Location: MA Posts:99999999999999 Posts: 3,301 Drives: 370Z 40th Aniversary Rep Power: 24	Full study: The future of how to steal a Z... __________________

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