Finally - A good good jack stand for DIYers

kenchan · 01-26-2011, 03:54 PM

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Originally Posted by CBRich

For everyone saying that your jack stands with wood or hockey pucks work fine I think you're missing the point. These are designed so that you can jack the car from the pinch weld and then insert the stand. Thus the open face.

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CBRich · 01-26-2011, 06:04 PM

I work night shift. Does that give me any kind of relief?

ol240z · 01-28-2011, 02:43 PM

I found this - though not a Z. Note the stand is completely out of the way of suspension, brake, oil pan, and mechanicals. When the car is sitting on these you can push on it 'till you're blue and it doesn't move.

kenchan · 01-28-2011, 02:51 PM

yah, the more im looking/reading about this stand the more i like it.

kenchan · 01-28-2011, 02:55 PM

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Originally Posted by CBRich

I work night shift. Does that give me any kind of relief?

OK!

IDZRVIT · 01-28-2011, 04:54 PM

The car weighs 3200#. Each jack point needs to support 800# give or take. Yep, hockey pucks, rubber blocks, wood, etc with a slot cut in for the pinch weld works fine. Like I said, it's a nice but expensive system but only jacks the car up to what, a whopping 12". Good luck crawling under your car at that height. How much more money to buy extensions to increase the lift so you can actually work under the car? Might as well buy a a two or four point lift. Thanks but I'll keep my money and stick with pucks/wood on conventional jack stands.

djpathfinder · 01-28-2011, 10:32 PM

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Originally Posted by IDZRVIT

The car weighs 3200#. Each jack point needs to support 800# give or take. Yep, hockey pucks, rubber blocks, wood, etc with a slot cut in for the pinch weld works fine. Like I said, it's a nice but expensive system but only jacks the car up to what, a whopping 12". Good luck crawling under your car at that height. How much more money to buy extensions to increase the lift so you can actually work under the car? Might as well buy a a two or four point lift. Thanks but I'll keep my money and stick with pucks/wood on conventional jack stands.

4 hockey pucks = $3.99. Besides, depending on where you put your jack stands, you might not even need hockey pucks...only one on the floor jack if you lift at the pinch weld ($0.99)

carguy · 01-29-2011, 10:31 AM

I get your point! Can you share some drawings and safety data that went into that design? my points not to rip on your idea, it's great for you because it works for you. Sorry, my son lost a friend due to his car crushing him as a result of using secondary jack points and alternative materials...everyones skill sets are different... CG

djpathfinder · 01-29-2011, 12:46 PM

There are several threads here and I've commented on a few. Search "hockey puck" and about 20 threads will pop up. Here's a good one:

Jack Stand Question
Pay attention to posts 20 to 26 or so. There's a diagram from the service manual on jack points.

Or you could download the service manual for full pics and description.

ol240z · 01-30-2011, 01:59 AM

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Originally Posted by IDZRVIT

The car weighs 3200#. Each jack point needs to support 800# give or take. Yep, hockey pucks, rubber blocks, wood, etc with a slot cut in for the pinch weld works fine. Like I said, it's a nice but expensive system but only jacks the car up to what, a whopping 12". Good luck crawling under your car at that height. How much more money to buy extensions to increase the lift so you can actually work under the car? Might as well buy a a two or four point lift. Thanks but I'll keep my money and stick with pucks/wood on conventional jack stands.

No argument here. I used hockey pucks too. I was using them at the track in the summer. Car weight 2800 lbs. problem? rough paddock road. I'm jacking up the car and the jack won't roll on the rough pavement so it can't reposition. Something has to give - I see the puck and its starting to distort because it's warm. I let the car down. Guys who play hockey have seen pucks crack and chip, but you're right they only cost a buck. funny - you can do anything for cheap. Cheap brake pads, cheap rotors, cheap oil, cheap tires, cheap helmet, cheap brake fluid. You have to pick your level of safety. $300 is allot for anything if you can do the job for $1. I just hope that if your hockey puck for $1 fails that you don't suffer any more than $299 in damage or injury. At $301 more safety starts to pay off.
I'm not a young guy. When I was younger - I took many more risk than I do now. I am a lucky guy. I've seen guys who went for cheap in a variety of things suffer the consequences - but I never did. At some point you stop tempting fate and spend money where it counts.
All I wanted to do was let you guys in on these things. If you decide its not for you - that's cool with me. When I got my first motorcycle I went helmet shopping w/ a seasoned rider. I was looking a cheap helmets and he said "$5 helmet for a $5 head". He then said "if you ride long enough - one day that helmet will have to save your head. how much is that worth?" I bought a good helmet and ended up selling it with the bike in like new condition to buy a track car. I never had to use the safety of a better helmet - lucky.
Will your hockey puck ever fail - I really hope not. But isn't it nice to know about an alternative if you ever want one and have the money to spend? Plus - now you know to check to see if they get cheaper - maybe not hockey puck cheap - never know. Good luck and be safe - I mean that.

spearfish25 · 01-30-2011, 06:58 AM

My other complaint would be that I often need to slide under the car along side the jack stand. Those mothers are so fat at the base, I'd be very limited in laying down next to them. (plenty of room for comments on that last line!)

ol240z · 01-30-2011, 10:58 AM

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Originally Posted by spearfish25

My other complaint would be that I often need to slide under the car along side the jack stand. Those mothers are so fat at the base, I'd be very limited in laying down next to them. (plenty of room for comments on that last line!)

It looks like you track your Z. I think one thing these stands were aimed at was track work. You don't always get a perfect surface so the wide base provides better stability. Right tool for the job, not one tool for every job. I have a lift in my garage. Some would say why have a jack stand at all? There are jobs that work better on the lift and others that work better on stands. If you look at that picture above, I'm seeing 18 - 20+ inches of clearance under the front suspension.

It also looks like you're in the Chicago area. Aren't these things made in Chicago? You could probably go and see them and judge for yourself. According to the Rennlist thread, there are guys buying these things sight unseen in Canada and they love them. I would think those guys are paying retail + Canada tax + duty + shipping. You'd think they have pretty high expectations. I saw these demoed on a 911 in a parking lot. That's what impressed me.

ol240z · 03-04-2011, 10:46 PM

Found this pic on the IMGT3 web site blog, but not for sale. New look? How much?

KaienZ34 · 03-05-2011, 12:36 AM

Looks good.

Xander117 · 03-05-2011, 10:55 AM

Im from GA I thought you were suppose to use cinder blocks and a couple 2x4's....

01-28-2011, 04:54 PM	#36 (permalink)
IDZRVIT A True Z Fanatic Join Date: May 2009 Location: Halifax Posts: 1,659 Drives: '13 CTS-V, '76 Vette Rep Power: 27	The car weighs 3200#. Each jack point needs to support 800# give or take. Yep, hockey pucks, rubber blocks, wood, etc with a slot cut in for the pinch weld works fine. Like I said, it's a nice but expensive system but only jacks the car up to what, a whopping 12". Good luck crawling under your car at that height. How much more money to buy extensions to increase the lift so you can actually work under the car? Might as well buy a a two or four point lift. Thanks but I'll keep my money and stick with pucks/wood on conventional jack stands. __________________ "America.... still builds rockets!" Vette: 355 cid, 400 rwhp '13 CTS-V Coupe: 6.2L LSA, 556HP

01-29-2011, 12:46 PM	#39 (permalink)
djpathfinder A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Mar 2010 Location: Edmonton, Canada Posts: 12,910 Drives: 2012 GT-R BE Rep Power: 733	There are several threads here and I've commented on a few. Search "hockey puck" and about 20 threads will pop up. Here's a good one: Jack Stand Question Pay attention to posts 20 to 26 or so. There's a diagram from the service manual on jack points. Or you could download the service manual for full pics and description. __________________ 2012 GT-R Black Edition Jet Black 2010 370Z 40th Anniversary // SOLD

01-30-2011, 06:58 AM	#41 (permalink)
spearfish25 A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: Naples, FL Posts: 4,117 Drives: to work Rep Power: 1856	My other complaint would be that I often need to slide under the car along side the jack stand. Those mothers are so fat at the base, I'd be very limited in laying down next to them. (plenty of room for comments on that last line!) __________________ 2013 Cadillac V-Wagon, RIP Z

03-05-2011, 12:36 AM	#44 (permalink)
KaienZ34 A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Oct 2009 Location: LA. not L.a. Posts: 21,652 Drives: Z34 Tour/Sport Rep Power: 178	Looks good. __________________ *"These Violent Delights Have Violent Ends"* http://www.the370z.com/members/kaienz34-albums-z34.html

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01-26-2011, 06:04 PM	#32 (permalink)
CBRich A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Apr 2009 Location: SC Posts: 2,464 Drives: 370Z Rep Power: 544	I work night shift. Does that give me any kind of relief?

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01-29-2011, 10:31 AM	#38 (permalink)
carguy Base Member Join Date: Jan 2011 Location: Chicago Posts: 8 Drives: GTR,09,white Rep Power: 14	I get your point! Can you share some drawings and safety data that went into that design? my points not to rip on your idea, it's great for you because it works for you. Sorry, my son lost a friend due to his car crushing him as a result of using secondary jack points and alternative materials...everyones skill sets are different... CG

03-05-2011, 10:55 AM	#45 (permalink)
Xander117 Enthusiast Member Join Date: Feb 2011 Location: Warner Robins, GA Posts: 446 Drives: 370, z71, R6 Rep Power: 14	Im from GA I thought you were suppose to use cinder blocks and a couple 2x4's....