Non-Owner With A Dilemma

Falcor · 01-24-2011, 08:34 AM

Jap Crap? Isn't Chrysler now owned by the Italian car company Fiat?

I would rather have a Japanese sports car than an Italian muscle car...though I would like an Italian sports car...

OrangeJuice · 01-24-2011, 10:00 AM

Wow, lots of responses here.

To the BR/NOLA guys: bought from Ralph Sellers...so far all they have said is until Chrysler issues an official TSB they can't do much AND since they can't recreate it they can't fix it. Also the car is not throwing codes, everything checks out...but the car still has issues. Same thing for close to between 200 and 300 people on the forum.

The Jap Crap comment was not mine, but rather that of other people. I've personally owned 3 Nissans, 1 Toyota and 1 Honda.

The road noise doesn't bother me in the 370z, it's just the engine sounds like it's straining. I've owned a G37 and am amazed at how smooth the VQ37 feels in that car compared to the Z. May be something I would get used to over time but definitely jumped out at me the first time I drove it.

I bought the Challenger because I had never owned an American car before, hated the Camaro and the Mustang (despite being an awesome car performance wise) was just too "dime a dozen" for me. Guess I fell into all the hype, now starting to realize that although the car is gorgeous and pretty fast, it's not worth dying over.

SiXK · 01-24-2011, 10:12 AM

Sorry to hear the problems you are having.

I have had my 370Z two full years (bought on Jan 15, 2009) and have really enjoyed it until last week.

Last week it sat in the shop for 5 days because the "Intelligent" (yeah, right) key system failed. The car would not crank and had to ride a flatbed to the dealership, where they originally told me it would be FIVE DAYS before they could look at it (a car under warranty). they said - get this - that I did not have an appointment. A call to Nissan consumer affairs put the rush on them. They diagnosed it that day, still took 5 days to get it back.

Frankly, that episode was a major PITA. I almost traded the car in for a Toyota truck. The next time it happens I doubt the car will still be under warranty. I am going to purchase the failed part - steering wheel lock unit - and hold onto it. The next time I will change it myself.

kenchan · 01-24-2011, 10:13 AM

if italian i would rather have spagetti with meatballs.

EL Diablo · 01-24-2011, 10:58 AM

If I had the same issues in my Z as you have in the Challenger I would not be looking to get rid of it.
Stalling twice and a key fob issues would not be enough for me to get rid of the car.
I love the Z and would be looking for Nissan to fix my problem under warranty.

Is a little bit of regret creeping in that you didn't get the Z?
If so.... Get the Z! Life is Short!

Cmike2780 · 01-24-2011, 11:46 AM

I say stick it out a little longer. All cars have problems and sooner or later someone will find a fix. It may not be from the manufacturer, but someone usually figures it out.

I like the retro styling of the the Challenger, but the interior was kind of meh! I wouldn't buy that car, but I could certainly live with it, especially if it has a V8 Hemi.

Falcor · 01-24-2011, 12:04 PM

A 2010 Srt is a sick ride. If the dealer wont fix the problem keep it. No sense in losing your *** in a trade in over something minor that will get a fix sooner or later.

I agree with Mikes comment on the interior...

steveg78 · 01-24-2011, 12:50 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by OrangeJuice

The road noise doesn't bother me in the 370z, it's just the engine sounds like it's straining. I've owned a G37 and am amazed at how smooth the VQ37 feels in that car compared to the Z. May be something I would get used to over time but definitely jumped out at me the first time I drove it.

Why did you get rid of the G37 then? If road noise and the smoothness of that you explain are one of your deciding factors, then you're talking about the difference between a 370 and a G37 (plus $$$). I have ridden in a few G37's (both coupe and sedan) and the lux interior, exhaust, and the cabin/road noise are the main differences.

The 370 is raw sports... So if you're looking for something sportier than the G37 you had then you need to decide if you can live with the noise. Then again, if it's a matter of "living with" anything, maybe that's not the right car?

kenchan · 01-24-2011, 12:54 PM

steveg- please do not post logical questions.

whoady4shoady · 01-24-2011, 12:59 PM

Just curious, but have you and the other guys on the mopar forum talked about possibly writing a letter threatening a class action lawsuit and getting it signed by everyone on the forum before you send it to coporate?

tyler20c · 01-24-2011, 01:02 PM

I traded in a 2010 Camaro SS for my Z. Had tons of problems with the camaro. I don't regret my decision at all and I definitely have more fun with the Z!

Vegitto-kun · 01-24-2011, 01:43 PM

I never understood the complaints of the road noise.

I never found it annoying, I strangely feel like the tirenoise is soothing.

only time it annoys me if I drive on a shitty road and something starts dancing in my wheel arches.

get the Z and ship the challenger here

bigdog1250 · 01-24-2011, 08:02 PM

Sell that baby, and write up a description like those carfax commercials: "Beautiful car with auto turn-off feature."

Can't go wrong with a Z

ProfessorDave · 01-24-2011, 08:23 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by kenchan

Noise issue can easily be tamed by dynamat if it bothers you. Sounds like some of you newbs are fragile. Been reading about noise issues lately. Its not THAT loud... boo hoo

I would expect muscle car folks would be more manly...

Wow, did you see kenchan go all kenchan on that guy?!?

Quote:

Originally Posted by LunaZ

I find my cabin to be very quiet!

Shameless self-reference to the multiple real estate investments you own, LunaZ!

Quote:

Originally Posted by metz

Im from BR also. I have a Roush mustang and a 40th ann so I can kind of see it from both sides. The Z isnt practicle for most people only having 2 seats and all (my mustang might as well not have a back though). I would be quite pissed if I was having the problem that you are. What dealer did you get it from?

You should mate those. Seriously. A Roush and a Z would make beautiful babies.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Falcor

Jap Crap? Isn't Chrysler now owned by the Italian car company Fiat?

I would rather have a Japanese sports car than an Italian muscle car...though I would like an Italian sports car...

This is brilliant marketing. Show the Challenger on the screen. Narrator speaks Italian. Cars sell like canolis.

Quote:

Originally Posted by kenchan

if italian i would rather have spagetti with meatballs.

My wife says to tell you it is Italian. I'm not listening because now you have made me hungry, ken. Yet again. Usually it is with your charburger references, but now you have gone all global on me with the pasta and meatballs reference.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Cmike2780

I say stick it out a little longer. All cars have problems and sooner or later someone will find a fix. It may not be from the manufacturer, but someone usually figures it out.

I like the retro styling of the the Challenger, but the interior was kind of meh! I wouldn't buy that car, but I could certainly live with it, especially if it has a V8 Hemi.

Seriously, I agree with this post. If it keeps up, there is always the lemon law. In for pics of the Challenger bythe way

sonic370 · 01-24-2011, 08:53 PM

Agree with others. But your first mistake was not getting the 370....
Can't figure out why lately the great debate over road noise has popped up
it's a 2 seat sports car come on! it's really not all that bad.........

but back on point about 8 years ago i bought a piece of crap neon for the wife, please don't go there!! anyway she had the same problem damn car would stall out and die whenever it wanted to. long story short dodge put on
something that monitored the car while driving.so when it did happen it was recorded. anyway once it stalled out dodge had a record of it...

anyway they gave up on trying to fix it and it was replaced by the lemon law.

01-24-2011, 10:12 AM	#18 (permalink)
SiXK Enthusiast Member Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: Orlando Posts: 352 Drives: 09 370Z / 91 300ZXTT Rep Power: 185	Sorry to hear the problems you are having. I have had my 370Z two full years (bought on Jan 15, 2009) and have really enjoyed it until last week. Last week it sat in the shop for 5 days because the "Intelligent" (yeah, right) key system failed. The car would not crank and had to ride a flatbed to the dealership, where they originally told me it would be FIVE DAYS before they could look at it (a car under warranty). they said - get this - that I did not have an appointment. A call to Nissan consumer affairs put the rush on them. They diagnosed it that day, still took 5 days to get it back. Frankly, that episode was a major PITA. I almost traded the car in for a Toyota truck. The next time it happens I doubt the car will still be under warranty. I am going to purchase the failed part - steering wheel lock unit - and hold onto it. The next time I will change it myself. __________________ Magnetic Black 2009 370Z / Pearl Yellow 1991 300ZXTT

01-24-2011, 11:46 AM	#21 (permalink)
Cmike2780 A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Jun 2010 Location: Long Island Posts: 5,059 Drives: slowwww Rep Power: 29	I say stick it out a little longer. All cars have problems and sooner or later someone will find a fix. It may not be from the manufacturer, but someone usually figures it out. I like the retro styling of the the Challenger, but the interior was kind of meh! I wouldn't buy that car, but I could certainly live with it, especially if it has a V8 Hemi. __________________ [09][MB][6-Spd MT][Touring][Stillen Gen III][K&N][Borla CBE][Evo-R] [ArchitTEK Photography]

01-24-2011, 08:02 PM	#28 (permalink)
bigdog1250 Track Member Join Date: Nov 2008 Location: San Francisco Posts: 846 Drives: 991.2 GT3 Rep Power: 18	Sell that baby, and write up a description like those carfax commercials: "Beautiful car with auto turn-off feature." Can't go wrong with a Z __________________ 350z / 40th 370z / C6 Z06 / BMW M4 / V10 R8 / C7 Grand Spot / 997.1 GT3 / S2K / Camaro ZL1 / 718 GTS / 991.2 GT3

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01-24-2011, 08:34 AM	#16 (permalink)
Falcor Enthusiast Member Join Date: Sep 2010 Location: North Wilkesboro, NC Posts: 347 Drives: 2010 370 CFR edition Rep Power: 15	Jap Crap? Isn't Chrysler now owned by the Italian car company Fiat? I would rather have a Japanese sports car than an Italian muscle car...though I would like an Italian sports car...

01-24-2011, 10:00 AM	#17 (permalink)
OrangeJuice Base Member Join Date: Jan 2011 Location: Baton Rouge, LA Posts: 16 Drives: 2012 Mustang GT Rep Power: 14	Wow, lots of responses here. To the BR/NOLA guys: bought from Ralph Sellers...so far all they have said is until Chrysler issues an official TSB they can't do much AND since they can't recreate it they can't fix it. Also the car is not throwing codes, everything checks out...but the car still has issues. Same thing for close to between 200 and 300 people on the forum. The Jap Crap comment was not mine, but rather that of other people. I've personally owned 3 Nissans, 1 Toyota and 1 Honda. The road noise doesn't bother me in the 370z, it's just the engine sounds like it's straining. I've owned a G37 and am amazed at how smooth the VQ37 feels in that car compared to the Z. May be something I would get used to over time but definitely jumped out at me the first time I drove it. I bought the Challenger because I had never owned an American car before, hated the Camaro and the Mustang (despite being an awesome car performance wise) was just too "dime a dozen" for me. Guess I fell into all the hype, now starting to realize that although the car is gorgeous and pretty fast, it's not worth dying over.

01-24-2011, 10:13 AM	#19 (permalink)
kenchan A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Aug 2009 Location: N/A Posts: 76,801 Drives: N/A Rep Power: 141521	if italian i would rather have spagetti with meatballs.

01-24-2011, 10:58 AM	#20 (permalink)
EL Diablo Base Member Join Date: Dec 2010 Location: USA Posts: 91 Drives: Not a 370Z Rep Power: 14	If I had the same issues in my Z as you have in the Challenger I would not be looking to get rid of it. Stalling twice and a key fob issues would not be enough for me to get rid of the car. I love the Z and would be looking for Nissan to fix my problem under warranty. Is a little bit of regret creeping in that you didn't get the Z? If so.... Get the Z! Life is Short!

01-24-2011, 12:04 PM	#22 (permalink)
Falcor Enthusiast Member Join Date: Sep 2010 Location: North Wilkesboro, NC Posts: 347 Drives: 2010 370 CFR edition Rep Power: 15	A 2010 Srt is a sick ride. If the dealer wont fix the problem keep it. No sense in losing your *** in a trade in over something minor that will get a fix sooner or later. I agree with Mikes comment on the interior...

01-24-2011, 12:54 PM	#24 (permalink)
kenchan A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Aug 2009 Location: N/A Posts: 76,801 Drives: N/A Rep Power: 141521	steveg- please do not post logical questions.

01-24-2011, 12:59 PM	#25 (permalink)
whoady4shoady A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: New Orleans Posts: 1,088 Drives: 09 Silver Nismo Rep Power: 18	Just curious, but have you and the other guys on the mopar forum talked about possibly writing a letter threatening a class action lawsuit and getting it signed by everyone on the forum before you send it to coporate?

01-24-2011, 01:02 PM	#26 (permalink)
tyler20c Base Member Join Date: Dec 2010 Location: Tampa Posts: 174 Drives: G37 Rep Power: 14	I traded in a 2010 Camaro SS for my Z. Had tons of problems with the camaro. I don't regret my decision at all and I definitely have more fun with the Z!

01-24-2011, 01:43 PM	#27 (permalink)
Vegitto-kun A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Feb 2010 Location: USA Posts: 2,011 Drives: 09 370Z Rep Power: 262	I never understood the complaints of the road noise. I never found it annoying, I strangely feel like the tirenoise is soothing. only time it annoys me if I drive on a shitty road and something starts dancing in my wheel arches. get the Z and ship the challenger here

01-24-2011, 08:53 PM	#30 (permalink)
sonic370 A True Z Fanatic Join Date: May 2010 Location: Orange Texas Posts: 1,574 Drives: 09 370Z Sports PGK Rep Power: 18	Agree with others. But your first mistake was not getting the 370.... Can't figure out why lately the great debate over road noise has popped up it's a 2 seat sports car come on! it's really not all that bad......... but back on point about 8 years ago i bought a piece of crap neon for the wife, please don't go there!! anyway she had the same problem damn car would stall out and die whenever it wanted to. long story short dodge put on something that monitored the car while driving.so when it did happen it was recorded. anyway once it stalled out dodge had a record of it... anyway they gave up on trying to fix it and it was replaced by the lemon law.