Educate me....cause I am tired!

LunaZ · 01-25-2011, 08:58 PM

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Originally Posted by Red__Zed

I feel ya, everything I've owned has been a manual, from my first accord, to my Jeep. That said, I almost considered getting the Z in auto simply because it is such a nice transmission, and the manual on the Z isn't exactly the greatest transmission option out there, in terms of quality as well as feel.

In the end, the love of rowing won out, but only by a little.

I love rowing won out from time to time, myself.

Ron · 01-25-2011, 09:05 PM

Yep, i've always had manuals too. If I ever get an auto it would be one of those double clutch shift before you blink autos lol. Anyway, to keep this on topic.. I saw a really nice shelby gt500 for 48k

Blue370tt · 01-26-2011, 08:44 AM

A few things: I live in Chattanooga TN and there are only 2 Nissan dealers here. On the day the 370z came out, there were only 3 of them in the whole town for sale. 2 were 6MTs and I wanted a 7AT. Because they knew they had a corner on the 370z market (at that moment) they were not coming off the sticker.

Most of my sports cars have been manuals through my life, but in 2007 I was hit by a drunk driver and spent 7 months in the hospital. I had severe brain injuries and also was permanantly blinded in one eye. You might be thinking "well you still have one eye" and I do, but the eye I lost was my dominant eye. While I can still see, I can no longer shoot pool, or a gun accurately. For THIS REASON, I decided an auto might be better for now.

I am not bragging on my car or dissing the Nismo. Money is not an issue for me and if I wanted a Nismo, I would just go buy one (or a GTR for that matter). The truth is, I LIKE THE 370! I personally dont like body kits and thats what the Nismo looks like to me. If I were tracking my car I might....MIGHT...consider aero enhancements, but I am not. I plan on running a few 1/4 miles and local driving and thats it.

So, I have what I have and you have what you have....end of story.

Nitrouz · 01-26-2011, 10:15 AM

sorry to hear about your eye, but you still have a driver's license with no depth perception?

Blue370tt · 01-26-2011, 10:23 AM

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Originally Posted by Nitrouz

sorry to hear about your eye, but you still have a driver's license with no depth perception?

I dont really have depth perception issues but my periphial vision is not that great. I dont drive as much as I once did and I dont drive at night (oncoming cars headlights nearly blind me).

My judgement may be off a little as my brain is still adjusting to using my non dominant eye. I am actually more cautious now because I sense/know my limitations.

shadoquad · 01-26-2011, 10:25 AM

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Originally Posted by Nitrouz

sorry to hear about your eye, but you still have a driver's license with no depth perception?

Someone I know has had one eye her entire life and has held a driver's license for over 30 years.

You don't absolutely need depth perception to judge distance in a vehicle. Relative sizing is a good indicator, as is the shine of your headlights.

Shamu · 01-26-2011, 11:03 AM

Clearly one advantage is the discounts dealers are giving on Nismo. I got mine for $36K. You really spent $68K on your standard 370Z? You could have bought a nice low mile used turbo Porsche for that! Nismo is a great deal! Special edition cars like the Nismo are always going to be a better deal after they have been on the market a couple years. Dealers have a ton of profit built into them and they can always hack off thousands which is what I did when I went shopping for a new 2010 on New Years Eve. Went to several dealers and it was not long before we were talking under invoice pricing for the Nismo at three places.

Other advantages beyond pricing is fact that Nismo engineers and developers actually tested all the upgraded components together on the car and the factory warranties all these parts no questions asked. In my opinion they did an outstanding job and the Nismo is far better enthusiasts sports car than the base 370Z with sport package. Bolting on lots of after market crapola is not something I'm interested in. Resale of aftermarket modded cars is terrible. You will very soon have a $68K car that is worth what maybe $25K? Suspect my stock Nismo would sell for more used in a few years than a heavily aftermarket tainted car.

From what I see even with bolt on intakes and exhaust systems base cars dont make as much hp as a stock Nismo. It takes cracking into ECU tuning by tuner who really knows what they are doing. From what I see not many of those guys are cracking the 370 Z code with success to get power Nismo engineers did.

Nismo is more like Grand Sport version of standard Corvette. Better suspension, upgraded power and nicer body work. But a hell of a lot less expensive. I'm not a big forced induction fan either. I think Nsmo is perfect balance of power and handling.

I shopped a lot and there isnt anything in the $36K range that offers as much value as a Nismo edition 370Z.

From my opinion. base 370Z is for people who really dont appreciate a true sports car. More of a car that one would want automatic transmission and neon lights to criuse the mall parking lots for teenagers. Nismo is more of a true sports car enthusiasts vehicle. A more mature buyers car. Its sort of the anti-ricer 370Z. Base 370Z just begs to be all riced up.

GZ3 · 01-26-2011, 02:07 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Shamu

Clearly one advantage is the discounts dealers are giving on Nismo. I got mine for $36K. You really spent $68K on your standard 370Z? You could have bought a nice low mile used turbo Porsche for that! Nismo is a great deal! Special edition cars like the Nismo are always going to be a better deal after they have been on the market a couple years. Dealers have a ton of profit built into them and they can always hack off thousands which is what I did when I went shopping for a new 2010 on New Years Eve. Went to several dealers and it was not long before we were talking under invoice pricing for the Nismo at three places.

Other advantages beyond pricing is fact that Nismo engineers and developers actually tested all the upgraded components together on the car and the factory warranties all these parts no questions asked. In my opinion they did an outstanding job and the Nismo is far better enthusiasts sports car than the base 370Z with sport package. Bolting on lots of after market crapola is not something I'm interested in. Resale of aftermarket modded cars is terrible. You will very soon have a $68K car that is worth what maybe $25K? Suspect my stock Nismo would sell for more used in a few years than a heavily aftermarket tainted car.

From what I see even with bolt on intakes and exhaust systems base cars dont make as much hp as a stock Nismo. It takes cracking into ECU tuning by tuner who really knows what they are doing. From what I see not many of those guys are cracking the 370 Z code with success to get power Nismo engineers did.

Nismo is more like Grand Sport version of standard Corvette. Better suspension, upgraded power and nicer body work. But a hell of a lot less expensive. I'm not a big forced induction fan either. I think Nsmo is perfect balance of power and handling.

I shopped a lot and there isnt anything in the $36K range that offers as much value as a Nismo edition 370Z.

From my opinion. base 370Z is for people who really dont appreciate a true sports car. More of a car that one would want automatic transmission and neon lights to criuse the mall parking lots for teenagers. Nismo is more of a true sports car enthusiasts vehicle. A more mature buyers car. Its sort of the anti-ricer 370Z. Base 370Z just begs to be all riced up.

didnt you also say in some other thread that you think there is some "unpublished" work on the nismo engine?!

A base or sport is a better start point for the true enuthusiast...wow there is allot of Nismo snobbery going around lately

Blue370tt · 01-26-2011, 03:39 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Shamu

Clearly one advantage is the discounts dealers are giving on Nismo. I got mine for $36K. You really spent $68K on your standard 370Z? You could have bought a nice low mile used turbo Porsche for that! Nismo is a great deal! Special edition cars like the Nismo are always going to be a better deal after they have been on the market a couple years. Dealers have a ton of profit built into them and they can always hack off thousands which is what I did when I went shopping for a new 2010 on New Years Eve. Went to several dealers and it was not long before we were talking under invoice pricing for the Nismo at three places.

Other advantages beyond pricing is fact that Nismo engineers and developers actually tested all the upgraded components together on the car and the factory warranties all these parts no questions asked. In my opinion they did an outstanding job and the Nismo is far better enthusiasts sports car than the base 370Z with sport package. Bolting on lots of after market crapola is not something I'm interested in. Resale of aftermarket modded cars is terrible. You will very soon have a $68K car that is worth what maybe $25K? Suspect my stock Nismo would sell for more used in a few years than a heavily aftermarket tainted car.

From what I see even with bolt on intakes and exhaust systems base cars dont make as much hp as a stock Nismo. It takes cracking into ECU tuning by tuner who really knows what they are doing. From what I see not many of those guys are cracking the 370 Z code with success to get power Nismo engineers did.

Nismo is more like Grand Sport version of standard Corvette. Better suspension, upgraded power and nicer body work. But a hell of a lot less expensive. I'm not a big forced induction fan either. I think Nsmo is perfect balance of power and handling.

I shopped a lot and there isnt anything in the $36K range that offers as much value as a Nismo edition 370Z.

From my opinion. base 370Z is for people who really dont appreciate a true sports car. More of a car that one would want automatic transmission and neon lights to criuse the mall parking lots for teenagers. Nismo is more of a true sports car enthusiasts vehicle. A more mature buyers car. Its sort of the anti-ricer 370Z. Base 370Z just begs to be all riced up.

Ok....I am trying not to get in fights...but...you really are one of the bigger idiots on this forum or you cant read. I DONT HAVE A BASE......The opening article (as well as my sig tag) CLEARLY states what my car is and has.

FYI....IDIOT.....had the Nismo come out THE DAY THE 370 was released YOU WOULD NOT HAVE GOTTEN A DISCOUNT. If you lived in a smaller town THE DAY THE 370 came out and there were only 3 TOTAL in the town.....YOU WOULDNT HAVE GOT A DISCOUNT.

I DIDNT PAY 68K FOR MY CAR thats what I have in it. I didnt want a Nismo, Porsche, OR ANYTHING ELSE......I LIKE THE 370! I was one of the early adopters on the GTM TT kit and it cost a little more at the very beginning.
ALSO, IF YOU LOOK IN MY PICTURES YOU WILL SEE I ALREADY HAD A PORSCHE 930, and several vettes, etc....

For the record, I think the Nismo looks "riced out" more than any other style 370. Its NOT FASTER and if you look at 1/4 mile times and track times you will see its ACTUALLY SLOWER.

In closing, I PAID CASH FOR MY 370 AND DONT OWE A PENNY ON IT OR THE MODS I HAVE DONE. I doubt you can say the same.

Please read before you speak in the future.

Shamu · 01-26-2011, 11:34 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Blue370tt

Ok....I am trying not to get in fights...but...you really are one of the bigger idiots on this forum or you cant read. I DONT HAVE A BASE......The opening article (as well as my sig tag) CLEARLY states what my car is and has.

FYI....IDIOT.....had the Nismo come out THE DAY THE 370 was released YOU WOULD NOT HAVE GOTTEN A DISCOUNT. If you lived in a smaller town THE DAY THE 370 came out and there were only 3 TOTAL in the town.....YOU WOULDNT HAVE GOT A DISCOUNT.

I DIDNT PAY 68K FOR MY CAR thats what I have in it. I didnt want a Nismo, Porsche, OR ANYTHING ELSE......I LIKE THE 370! I was one of the early adopters on the GTM TT kit and it cost a little more at the very beginning.
ALSO, IF YOU LOOK IN MY PICTURES YOU WILL SEE I ALREADY HAD A PORSCHE 930, and several vettes, etc....

For the record, I think the Nismo looks "riced out" more than any other style 370. Its NOT FASTER and if you look at 1/4 mile times and track times you will see its ACTUALLY SLOWER.

In closing, I PAID CASH FOR MY 370 AND DONT OWE A PENNY ON IT OR THE MODS I HAVE DONE. I doubt you can say the same.

Please read before you speak in the future.

Dude, Try not to project your insecurities so much. $68K investment in a base 370Z? Im sorry but I suspect that has less to do with being an early adopter and someone who might be bait misguided. And paying $68k cash for aftermarket modded entry level Japanese sports car aint smart in my book. You ended up with an over priced rice rocket that I likely could whip on a road course in my stock but well balanced Nismo with a couple upgrades to brakes, tires and oil cooler. Im always amazed at lack of knowledge about what it takes to build a well balanced quick car. Sorry you invested so much in your over priced base car ricer mobile, time to drown your sorrows in some nonfunctional CF! That's why I love the Nismo! No investment beyond $36k original purchase price, all covered under warranty, no down time experimenting and isntalling after market crap. Nothing worse than people who have made mistake acting all righteous and superior when talking to people who saw real deal in the factory built car for nearly half the price.

I suspect I have far more experience with car development than most people on this forum. But I leave real development to my track cars - I tend to leave my street cars stock. Nismo is my cute little econo commute car.

If I was inclined to running 1/4 miles I certainly wouldn't have bought a 370z. Lol!

Ouch. Sorry about money pit 930!

Red__Zed · 01-26-2011, 11:46 PM

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Originally Posted by Shamu

Dude, Try not to project your insecurities so much. $68K investment in a base 370Z? Im sorry but I suspect that has less to do with being an early adopter and someone who might be bait misguided. And paying $68k cash for aftermarket modded entry level Japanese sports car aint smart in my book. You ended up with an over priced rice rocket that I likely could whip on a road course in my stock but well balanced Nismo with a couple upgrades to brakes, tires and oil cooler. Im always amazed at lack of knowledge about what it takes to build a well balanced quick car. Sorry you invested so much in your over priced base car ricer mobile, time to drown your sorrows in some nonfunctional CF! That's why I love the Nismo! No investment beyond $36k original purchase price, all covered under warranty, no down time experimenting and isntalling after market crap. Nothing worse than people who have made mistake acting all righteous and superior when talking to people who saw real deal in the factory built car for nearly half the price.

I suspect I have far more experience with car development than most people on this forum. But I leave real development to my track cars - I tend to leave my street cars stock. Nismo is my cute little econo commute car.

If I was inclined to running 1/4 miles I certainly wouldn't have bought a 370z. Lol!

Ouch. Sorry about money pit 930!

I'd love to see some pics of your track cars.

Also:

Shamu · 01-26-2011, 11:56 PM

Here you go sweetheart Take a ride in my wimpy 200 hp 1800 lb 914 track car. HP ain't all it's cracked up to be. You guys with blowers are clearly compensating for something?

http://m.youtube.com/index?desktop_u...&v=w8xE1XNpoGE

...or how bout a 1875 lb Porsche Boxster hillclimb car I built with full GT3 suspension, monoballs, KW coil overs , Tarret Engineering toe rods and sway bar links, etc, etc all sitting on 16x11 inch Avom a15 compound race slicks. Holds a couple class records.

And come on this thread was destined for troll-Dom. Might as well have fun with it!

Blue370tt · 01-27-2011, 08:35 AM

Congrats on your Nismo.......One of the few cars that look FAST but are actually slow!

Red__Zed · 01-26-2011, 11:35 AM

^ you can stop justifying your purchase to us.

Shamu · 01-26-2011, 11:56 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Red__Zed

^ you can stop justifying your purchase to us.

Thought the question was splain why Nismo over modded base? No justification needed. Its an awesome car!!!!

01-26-2011, 10:15 AM	#4 (permalink)
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01-26-2011, 11:03 AM	#7 (permalink)
Shamu A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Jan 2011 Location: Nor Cal Posts: 1,059 Drives: 370Z Racecar Rep Power: 20	Clearly one advantage is the discounts dealers are giving on Nismo. I got mine for $36K. You really spent $68K on your standard 370Z? You could have bought a nice low mile used turbo Porsche for that! Nismo is a great deal! Special edition cars like the Nismo are always going to be a better deal after they have been on the market a couple years. Dealers have a ton of profit built into them and they can always hack off thousands which is what I did when I went shopping for a new 2010 on New Years Eve. Went to several dealers and it was not long before we were talking under invoice pricing for the Nismo at three places. Other advantages beyond pricing is fact that Nismo engineers and developers actually tested all the upgraded components together on the car and the factory warranties all these parts no questions asked. In my opinion they did an outstanding job and the Nismo is far better enthusiasts sports car than the base 370Z with sport package. Bolting on lots of after market crapola is not something I'm interested in. Resale of aftermarket modded cars is terrible. You will very soon have a $68K car that is worth what maybe $25K? Suspect my stock Nismo would sell for more used in a few years than a heavily aftermarket tainted car. From what I see even with bolt on intakes and exhaust systems base cars dont make as much hp as a stock Nismo. It takes cracking into ECU tuning by tuner who really knows what they are doing. From what I see not many of those guys are cracking the 370 Z code with success to get power Nismo engineers did. Nismo is more like Grand Sport version of standard Corvette. Better suspension, upgraded power and nicer body work. But a hell of a lot less expensive. I'm not a big forced induction fan either. I think Nsmo is perfect balance of power and handling. I shopped a lot and there isnt anything in the $36K range that offers as much value as a Nismo edition 370Z. From my opinion. base 370Z is for people who really dont appreciate a true sports car. More of a car that one would want automatic transmission and neon lights to criuse the mall parking lots for teenagers. Nismo is more of a true sports car enthusiasts vehicle. A more mature buyers car. Its sort of the anti-ricer 370Z. Base 370Z just begs to be all riced up. Last edited by Shamu; 01-26-2011 at 11:08 AM.

01-26-2011, 11:56 PM	#12 (permalink)
Shamu A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Jan 2011 Location: Nor Cal Posts: 1,059 Drives: 370Z Racecar Rep Power: 20	Here you go sweetheart Take a ride in my wimpy 200 hp 1800 lb 914 track car. HP ain't all it's cracked up to be. You guys with blowers are clearly compensating for something? http://m.youtube.com/index?desktop_u...&v=w8xE1XNpoGE ...or how bout a 1875 lb Porsche Boxster hillclimb car I built with full GT3 suspension, monoballs, KW coil overs , Tarret Engineering toe rods and sway bar links, etc, etc all sitting on 16x11 inch Avom a15 compound race slicks. Holds a couple class records. And come on this thread was destined for troll-Dom. Might as well have fun with it! Last edited by Shamu; 01-27-2011 at 01:04 AM.

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Blue370tt Enthusiast Member Join Date: Dec 2010 Location: Chattanooga TN Posts: 279 Drives: Nissan Juke Rep Power: 15	A few things: I live in Chattanooga TN and there are only 2 Nissan dealers here. On the day the 370z came out, there were only 3 of them in the whole town for sale. 2 were 6MTs and I wanted a 7AT. Because they knew they had a corner on the 370z market (at that moment) they were not coming off the sticker. Most of my sports cars have been manuals through my life, but in 2007 I was hit by a drunk driver and spent 7 months in the hospital. I had severe brain injuries and also was permanantly blinded in one eye. You might be thinking "well you still have one eye" and I do, but the eye I lost was my dominant eye. While I can still see, I can no longer shoot pool, or a gun accurately. For THIS REASON, I decided an auto might be better for now. I am not bragging on my car or dissing the Nismo. Money is not an issue for me and if I wanted a Nismo, I would just go buy one (or a GTR for that matter). The truth is, I LIKE THE 370! I personally dont like body kits and thats what the Nismo looks like to me. If I were tracking my car I might....MIGHT...consider aero enhancements, but I am not. I plan on running a few 1/4 miles and local driving and thats it. So, I have what I have and you have what you have....end of story.

01-27-2011, 08:35 AM	#13 (permalink)
Blue370tt Enthusiast Member Join Date: Dec 2010 Location: Chattanooga TN Posts: 279 Drives: Nissan Juke Rep Power: 15	Congrats on your Nismo.......One of the few cars that look FAST but are actually slow!

01-26-2011, 11:35 AM	#14 (permalink)
Red__Zed A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Jul 2010 Location: window seat Posts: 28,940 Drives: Mostly on two wheels Rep Power: 120	^ you can stop justifying your purchase to us.