Someone I know has had one eye her entire life and has held a driver's license for over 30 years. :ugh2:

You don't absolutely need depth perception to judge distance in a vehicle. Relative sizing is a good indicator, as is the shine of your headlights.

Clearly one advantage is the discounts dealers are giving on Nismo. I got mine for $36K. You really spent $68K on your standard 370Z? You could have bought a nice low mile used turbo Porsche for that! Nismo is a great deal! Special edition cars like the Nismo are always going to be a better deal after they have been on the market a couple years. Dealers have a ton of profit built into them and they can always hack off thousands which is what I did when I went shopping for a new 2010 on New Years Eve. Went to several dealers and it was not long before we were talking under invoice pricing for the Nismo at three places.

Other advantages beyond pricing is fact that Nismo engineers and developers actually tested all the upgraded components together on the car and the factory warranties all these parts no questions asked. In my opinion they did an outstanding job and the Nismo is far better enthusiasts sports car than the base 370Z with sport package. Bolting on lots of after market crapola is not something I'm interested in. Resale of aftermarket modded cars is terrible. You will very soon have a $68K car that is worth what maybe $25K? Suspect my stock Nismo would sell for more used in a few years than a heavily aftermarket tainted car.

From what I see even with bolt on intakes and exhaust systems base cars dont make as much hp as a stock Nismo. It takes cracking into ECU tuning by tuner who really knows what they are doing. From what I see not many of those guys are cracking the 370 Z code with success to get power Nismo engineers did.

Nismo is more like Grand Sport version of standard Corvette. Better suspension, upgraded power and nicer body work. But a hell of a lot less expensive. I'm not a big forced induction fan either. I think Nsmo is perfect balance of power and handling.

I shopped a lot and there isnt anything in the $36K range that offers as much value as a Nismo edition 370Z.

From my opinion. base 370Z is for people who really dont appreciate a true sports car. More of a car that one would want automatic transmission and neon lights to criuse the mall parking lots for teenagers. Nismo is more of a true sports car enthusiasts vehicle. A more mature buyers car. Its sort of the anti-ricer 370Z. Base 370Z just begs to be all riced up.

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^ you can stop justifying your purchase to us.

Thought the question was splain why Nismo over modded base? No justification needed. Its an awesome car!!!!:happydance::happydance::happydance:

:inoutroflpuke: didnt you also say in some other thread that you think there is some "unpublished" work on the nismo engine?! :roflpuke2: A base or sport is a better start point for the true enuthusiast...wow there is allot of Nismo snobbery going around lately

Wow, guys C'mon. The Z, base or Nismo, is still a Z! Yes, sorry, you can still rice up a Nismo even if you think it's impossible (especially since you own one)
The 370Z is a great little sports car no matter how much you paid for it and no matter how much 10s of thousands of dollars you do or don't put into it.

Ok....I am trying not to get in fights...but...you really are one of the bigger idiots on this forum or you cant read. I DONT HAVE A BASE......The opening article (as well as my sig tag) CLEARLY states what my car is and has.

FYI....IDIOT.....had the Nismo come out THE DAY THE 370 was released YOU WOULD NOT HAVE GOTTEN A DISCOUNT. If you lived in a smaller town THE DAY THE 370 came out and there were only 3 TOTAL in the town.....YOU WOULDNT HAVE GOT A DISCOUNT.

I DIDNT PAY 68K FOR MY CAR thats what I have in it. I didnt want a Nismo, Porsche, OR ANYTHING ELSE......I LIKE THE 370! I was one of the early adopters on the GTM TT kit and it cost a little more at the very beginning.
ALSO, IF YOU LOOK IN MY PICTURES YOU WILL SEE I ALREADY HAD A PORSCHE 930, and several vettes, etc....

For the record, I think the Nismo looks "riced out" more than any other style 370. Its NOT FASTER and if you look at 1/4 mile times and track times you will see its ACTUALLY SLOWER.

In closing, I PAID CASH FOR MY 370 AND DONT OWE A PENNY ON IT OR THE MODS I HAVE DONE. I doubt you can say the same.

Please read before you speak in the future.

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In those conditions I think ur right, only 3 cars in town and just one AT, dealer could have asked for whatever they wanted. Don't take this the wrong way and Im sorry to hear what happened to u (fvckng drunl drivers), but are u not afraid taking that TT down the dragstrip with ur condition? I would be LOL

**queue star trek the next generation theme** I searched for hours on the internet and through some connections I have with Nissan, I came to find out, that the Nismo was actually hand built in a germ free enviorment by Unicorns in Atlantis...then they slaughter these same Unicorns and use thier blood as the "break in" Oil...and THIS accounts for the extra 1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9,10 extra rear wheel horsepowersssss


thought i would share my discoveries on the other Nismo thread

Well my 40th Anniversary is my beater car, My Bugatti is my average car, and my ONLY ONE IN THE WORLD U.F.O. is my weekend warrior ;) why? cause Im baller like that LOL

and I don't owe a penny on any of them! In fact the dealerships are paying me to keep driving there cars =)

LOL…

but to stay on topic OP your ride would mash on a Nismo!
but my UFO decimates all...it dynos at 47xLightspeed

:bowrofl::bowrofl::bowrofl:
Finally someone who can confirm what I was told as well:tup:

Nismo=Your paying for Nismo parts and items that are labeled Nismo(bfd)! You can get equivalent parts for a 370 on the market "cheaper".

Hey give us some credit, nissan says its 18 extra horsepowers:icon17:

Good point.....I may not drive the official 1/4 mile run......still thinking about it. I definitely dont want to spend another 7 months in the hospital.

Not if you got the car used at a great price. :happydance:

Now :gtfo2:

lol what an stupid thread...IBTL

Dude, Try not to project your insecurities so much. $68K investment in a base 370Z? Im sorry but I suspect that has less to do with being an early adopter and someone who might be bait misguided. And paying $68k cash for aftermarket modded entry level Japanese sports car aint smart in my book. You ended up with an over priced rice rocket that I likely could whip on a road course in my stock but well balanced Nismo with a couple upgrades to brakes, tires and oil cooler. Im always amazed at lack of knowledge about what it takes to build a well balanced quick car. Sorry you invested so much in your over priced base car ricer mobile, time to drown your sorrows in some nonfunctional CF! That's why I love the Nismo! No investment beyond $36k original purchase price, all covered under warranty, no down time experimenting and isntalling after market crap. Nothing worse than people who have made mistake acting all righteous and superior when talking to people who saw real deal in the factory built car for nearly half the price. :stirthepot:

I suspect I have far more experience with car development than most people on this forum. But I leave real development to my track cars - I tend to leave my street cars stock. Nismo is my cute little econo commute car.

If I was inclined to running 1/4 miles I certainly wouldn't have bought a 370z. Lol!

Ouch. Sorry about money pit 930!

I'd love to see some pics of your track cars.


Also:
http://img69.imageshack.us/img69/6159/trollsprayxj4.jpg

Here you go sweetheart Take a ride in my wimpy 200 hp 1800 lb 914 track car. HP ain't all it's cracked up to be. You guys with blowers are clearly compensating for something?

http://m.youtube.com/index?desktop_u...&v=w8xE1XNpoGE

...or how bout a 1875 lb Porsche Boxster hillclimb car I built with full GT3 suspension, monoballs, KW coil overs , Tarret Engineering toe rods and sway bar links, etc, etc all sitting on 16x11 inch Avom a15 compound race slicks. Holds a couple class records.

http://www.914world.com/bbs2/uploads...1271118869.jpg

And come on this thread was destined for troll-Dom. Might as well have fun with it!

Congrats on your Nismo.......One of the few cars that look FAST but are actually slow!

Any one have something to wash this popcorn down, looks like it is going to another fun thread.

would you like some unicorn blood?

Have some of you guys seen the turbo thread where a guy had a nismo and a regular 370z. Both had greddy turbo kits put on and the nismo still made more power with the same build. If I remember correctly it was a bit more than 30whp difference. There is a video of it on youtube somewhere.

EDIT: NVM it was more than 40whp difference

Yes, it is a shop called AAM and in the thread they also said the Nismo is running more boost as the non-Nismo owner wanted to keep it as a 'light' build.

Oh, that I did not know... thank you for the correction.

Yes, everyone was curious about that also but AAM cleared the air.
Really once you start tuning either car it is nulled out performance wise. The Nismo tune from factory basically is a couple minor tweaks which is paired with the exhaust. One reason why people say if you are going to go crazy modding it might be best to jump on a base/touring with sport and skip the Nismo.

very helpful piece of information:tup:

you guys sound like democrats and republicans trying to change each other's views :)
it's simple really. those who think the nismo is worth it bought a nismo and those who don't think it's worth it, did not buy one.

After thinking a little deeper into this, if i remember correctly the NISMO rims weigh something like 20lbs for both front and back...base and sport packed Z's IIRC weigh something like 23ish front and back....that unsprung weight loss could account for the HP diff too. Rim weight makes a difference on the dyno....hhmmmmm intersting
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I always thought less weight on the rims means better torque and not HP. Smaller diameter rims always means more HP.

I've said that before. If people want to heavily mod their cars as in body kits and new rims and so forth, they should get a base/touring. People that bought the nismos love the body and rims not because of the HP increase. No nismo owner in their right mind bought the nismo just for that 18hp increase.

I love the way my car looks over the fangs. I love my rims over the sports package. That is the reason why I bought it and it is the same reason why many others bought the nismo.

[QUOTE=Cell;914451]I always thought less weight on the rims means better torque and not HP. Smaller diameter rims always means more HP[QUOTE=Cell;914451]


hmm, i thought HP was affected as well. I remember a while back a buddy of mine dyno'd his LS1 with chrome corvette rims (heavy) then he took them off and put stockers back on and made a gain of about 15ish...significant

LOL! I'd be willing to give any stock 370 Z a 2 second head start on local road courses. Suspect I would make up time within half a lap.

Dont underestimate suspension, power and handling advantages of the Nismo. I dont think Nismo was building a drag racer my over blown friend.:driving:

But hey its a free country if you want to ruin a stock 370Z, void warranties, etc go for the major aftermarket pimp and blow! I think most educated buyers will see value of the Nismo over buying a Sport model and adding a bunch of cheezy or very expensive aftermarket parts.

But at least have a sense of humor about it!

I cant tell if your joking or not anymore:confused: but here in SA its usually the nismos that are stuck on lots getting discounted for sale vs other models...

+1 for being the dumbest thread ever!

lol, does the OP just realize he told everyone who owns a 370z that their car is slow?? 370z's arent slow cars... you just spent alot of money to make yours faster...

[QUOTE=GZ3;914466][QUOTE=Cell;914451]I always thought less weight on the rims means better torque and not HP. Smaller diameter rims always means more HPWere the two rims the same size? I know in the RSX community when people went from 16" rims to 17", they lost HP. No idea what lighter wheels do for HP wise. I just know losing some weight will always give better performance.

Shamu, I'd love to see what your stock nismo can do against my car. I mean...I understand its a good starting point and great if you're not into modding....but you need a reality check. We could both have stock cars, but if I put on my RE-11's then you'd be in trouble already. Add 150whp, coilovers, lighter wheels and a good alignment and I'm sorry man, but no fancy front bumper or extra seam welding is going to make up for it.

I love the Nismo and wish I had started from it to keep weight down and for the extra chassis rigidity, but don't kid yourself. I know people focus on numbers and don't realize the importance of better balance, etc. However, your car overheats and has brake failures just like mine did when it was stock. It's no track car, its barely better than the sports package 370z...

Depends on what you mean by fast. The z isn't relatively slow in terms of performance cars.

[QUOTE=Cell;914788][QUOTE=GZ3;914466]yeah they were the same size 18 chrome corvette wheels to stockers 18's...intresting

fast in relation to furiousness