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There is general agreement that the 370Z is noisy. The sport package versions appear to be the loudest. There also is agreement that reducing the road noise would be a

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Old 01-20-2011, 05:02 PM   #1 (permalink)
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There is general agreement that the 370Z is noisy. The sport package versions appear to be the loudest. There also is agreement that reducing the road noise would be a good thing.

Several solutions have been tried by members. Members report different results applying the same solution. Since "loud" is subjective, I suggest that members preparing to perform cabin sound reduction provide some objective data.

If you have an iphone, a droid, or a Windows phone, you can download an app (99 cents I think) for measuring sound levels. Since we are interested in "before" and "after" numbers, we are not really concerned with how accurate the absolute values are; just the difference between before and after.

How to do the measurements
Download the app and familiarize yourself with how to use it.
Before you install the material:
Find a road you can easily reach that you consider noisy. Measure the sound level between two points you can find again. Drive at a constant speed. Note that level. It should be in db (decibels).

After the material is installed:
Return to the exact spot you measured the first time. Take a sound reading at the same speed you drove before the installation. Note the sound level.

Post the readings as well as what you did to reduce noise in this thread.

Some notes on sound readings
The decibel scale is logarithmic. That means that changes are not linear...for example if you measured 85db before and 75db later, you didn't reduce noise by 12% (the difference 10 divided by the original 85). You actually reduced the sound level by 1/2. A 10db change down is 50% of the original.

So if you reduce the noise by 10db, you have cut it in half. However, that does not mean the sound is half as loud to you. The human ear is not linear either; so reductions in sound level do not necessarily sound quieter to the ear. This is one reason why subjective reports are hard to understand.

If you can help with this, we can compile some objective expectations for various noise reduction solutions.
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There is general agreement that the 370Z is noisy. The sport package versions appear to be the loudest. There also is agreement that reducing the road noise would be a good thing.
...? I don't remember agreeing to that.

Like the others say - it's a sports car. If you wanted a quiet, easy ride...Infiniti dealership was probably right next door?
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There is general agreement that the 370Z is noisy. ...
Really, how did you come to that conclusion?

I've owned mine for almost a year and a half - it is not noisy.

And, as others have pointed out, it's a sports car...
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I don't mind the noise
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I've actually done some research and discovered that the faster I go, the more noise the car produces - any solutions for this?
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*sigh*

What a bunch of idiots on this board.

Every review of the 370Z complains about the noise - what do you think that does to people's opinions considering buying the car?

I owned an MR-2 SC and an NSX - the 370Z noise is worse than both, though not necessarily louder than my HKS Stage II MR-2, just much more annoying.
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Mine was 106db with the wife inside, and 85 without her.
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Yes it is a sports car. Bad answer, narrow thinking, and acceptance of something that is unnecessary. High cabin noise does not a sports car make, any more than putting a big-*** wing and loud exhaust on an FWD Accura makes it a sports car.
I would enjoy my Z on road trips immensely more if the road noise was reduced and it would take nothing away from the rest of the sports car experience. I don't expect it to have an interior noise level like a high end Mercedes, but I don't think that some effective engineering by Nissan to reduce the noise level of the car would have compromised anything else in the overall performance of the car either.



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*sigh*

What a bunch of idiots on this board.

Every review of the 370Z complains about the noise - what do you think that does to people's opinions considering buying the car?

I owned an MR-2 SC and an NSX - the 370Z noise is worse than both, though not necessarily louder than my HKS Stage II MR-2, just much more annoying.
have you owned a WS6, cause you sound just like someone else on this board.
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all this talk about noise is giving the 370 a bad rap to people thinking about buying the car. to those complaining did you even take a test drive and if you did stop crying about the road noise. it is not that bad.
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