My only question is that if traction control is such a bad thing, then why would pretty much any racing team use it if they were allowed to. Granted most
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01-20-2011, 06:57 PM | #46 (permalink) |
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My only question is that if traction control is such a bad thing, then why would pretty much any racing team use it if they were allowed to. Granted most street systems can be a bit intrusive but even the best of the best race car drivers can do better laps with traction control. Now i doubt we will see a traction control system that well sorted on a car that most people can afford for a while. But saying that having it makes you worse for it is wrong, it only can work with the traction available and if you exceed it the vdc will help regain control, but it still requires you to not be stupid.
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I did the same thing at the track and i got alot better results as well, i had full control of my car and never had to worrie about pushing the car to hard and the VDC screwing everything up.
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I remember when Indy car teams had traction control when it was illegal for them to have. The teams were buring the codes so deep into the ECU that they went ahead and let every team use it.
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VDC = LESS 370Z's in the grave-yard!
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see this is what im talking about, people like this.
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My Nismo is my Daily Driver and I drive it everyday with the VDC off and I have never had a close call or almost wrecked the car. People need to learn to drive and not be driven by computers.
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Some people just don't try to understand. People these days are so set in there ways regardless if you make a valid point.
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When I first came to this forum the standard was VDC Off = Death. I was reluctant to even try it off, but kept thinking, "It's only a car". Sure enough VDC off + experienced driver = destination.
I'd be curious* how many people learned to ride a bike with training wheels and who learned without. My dad wouldn't let me have them, and taught me without them, very quickly. Perhaps the training wheels and VDC analogy, is a poor one because at some point people learn to ride, and get rid of their training wheels. With VDC, folks never learn. * a poll.
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People like who???! Gfys... I'm pushing allot more power than most people on this forum, because I prefer it on when driving who cares! I don't go street racing every chance I get. And when I chose to rip the throttle I turn VDC off! Just cause I don't drive everywhere with VDC off does not make me a bad driver,, grow up buddy!
Edit: I also have a 240sx, which has much less rear end control than the Z, and last time I checked it does not have VDC. I have heard way too many stories of people driving with it off and going into unexpected variables, and wrecking the car, that's why I made that statement. Say 2,000 z drivers drive for 3 years with VDC off and 2,000 Z drivers driving for 3 years with VDC on. Which would be a more logical hypothesis of which group is going to have fewer wrecks!? You can call me a bad driver all day long, but when I am just driving to work and what not VDC stays on, not cause I am a bad driver, but because I am a smart driver.
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Personally i dont care how much power you have, so i dont even know why that point was brought up. Secondly, no one said anything about street racing, once again, dont know why that was brought up. Thirdly, no one said you were a bad driver, once again, dont know why you brought that up.
Lastly, you claim VDC = less 370z in the grave. Do you have proof to back that up? Can you honeslty sit there and say the cause of 370z being in the grave was caused by VDC or played a factor in it? My truck doesnt have VDC or traction control, i havent heard of or seen any posts on multiple forums of accidents being caused by not having those futures. And thats the point im making. Basically you are saying if a 370z was stopped at a red light with his VDC off, someone slammed into the back of him, the accident was caused because the VDC was off.
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your little example doesnt make sence at all. If the group had there vdcoff got into, lets say 500 accidents and the other group only 200 accidents. What if the 300 more accidents were all un-avoidable and VDC had no play in the matter? This is all what ifs, i want to see 100% solid proof that turning your VDC cause more accidents.
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Thanks XAN only makes logical sence.
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