The future of how to steal a Z...

Jeffblue · 01-09-2011, 12:31 PM

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Originally Posted by Lemers

Insurance my friends. That's why we willingly pay thieves to help soften the blow when street thieves take our ****.

SkyZ · 01-09-2011, 12:50 PM

from my understanding of the article it seems like a lot of the proposed solutions on this thread wont prevent people stealing the car. it seems like what they're doing is tricking the key into thinking the car is nearby (hence the guy within 8 meters) the key then sends out the unlock/ignition verification which is then transmitted to a wireless transmitter which fools the car into thinking the key is right there and starts the ignition.

Lemers · 01-09-2011, 12:56 PM

Locks only prevent the small time thieves. The more "professional" ones will get by locks no matter how fanscy they are.

Most thieves like the "soft target". Protect your stuff by making your car harder to steal than the next guy's.

Philipp · 01-09-2011, 09:56 PM

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Originally Posted by frost

I saw some news story that was warning against people using scanners in parking lots, and getting your frequency (i guess) when you lock your car with your fob as you're walking away. It gave the advice of: if you see anyone standing around in the parking lot as you're getting out of our car, hit the "lock" button on your door rather than using your fob.
I didn't pay as much attention as I probably should have because I already only use my button on the door (since my fob is generally in my pocket).

Also, as someone who has had a car stolen the old fashioned way (with the steering column ripped out), I'd more than appreciate the less damage being done to the car as possible in case it's found

Makes me think about last summer. I was standing at night on my balcony (actually watching the car under moon light...) when a walker took some sort of device of his jacket put it close to the car when he walked by. He never looked back on the device when he put it back into his jacket and continue his journey... At that time i tought i was a bugler scanning the car for battery leaks (laptop etc...). Could it be the same thing???

LMBmikeZ · 01-09-2011, 10:08 PM

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Originally Posted by Philipp

Makes me think about last summer. I was standing at night on my balcony (actually watching the car under moon light...) when a walker took some sort of device of his jacket put it close to the car when he walked by. He never looked back on the device when he put it back into his jacket and continue his journey... At that time i tought i was a bugler scanning the car for battery leaks (laptop etc...). Could it be the same thing???

That's a little weird, but any chance it was his cell phone or camera of some type? I have seen people before walk by and take a quick pic. I don't know about any sort of scanner for battery leaks, that seems like if it does exist that it is to high tech for petty thieves to have. They are more the smash and grab type only in for what they can see and carry.

PapoZalsa · 01-09-2011, 10:23 PM

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Originally Posted by CrownR426

When I used to help out at a Ford dealer my shop manager told me a story.
He was a teacher at Lincoln Tech. and Mercedes Benz came with their new lines of cars.
The Mercedes guy was boasting about how amazing their keyless entry system is and that you can't ever steal their cars. He told me all you have to do is jack up the car so that the computer thinks that you got into an accident and it'll unlock the doors because that's a safety feature most cars offer these days.

That is the same on the BMWs.

vividracing · 01-09-2011, 10:34 PM

if someone really wants to steal your car, they will find a way to do it. best thing is to have insurance

N8GTOL · 01-09-2011, 11:48 PM

so someone manages to steal the car by relaying the fob signal...what happens when they need to restart the car later? Do they just have that original signal stored and re-broadcast it?

If so, it seems like an intermediate fix would be to program fobs with rotating coded signals. This may deter some would-be thiefs if they know they can only start the car once. But maybe they wouldnt care if they are just taking it to a chop shop.

Lemers · 01-09-2011, 11:57 PM

They aren't concerned about restarting your car when it's sitting on the chop shop floor in a million pieces.

brakedrift12 · 01-10-2011, 01:23 AM

LoJack FTW

kenchan · 01-10-2011, 11:35 AM

Considering the trouble I think theives will concentrate on stealing your wheels than the entire car. Pretty soon all cars will have gps and it im sure it will be easier to trace the car ....let alone be able to get status info online in realtime.

01-09-2011, 12:56 PM	#18 (permalink)
Lemers A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Mar 2010 Location: Izmir, Turkey Posts: 15,371 Drives: 2012 Traverse LTZ Rep Power: 52	Locks only prevent the small time thieves. The more "professional" ones will get by locks no matter how fanscy they are. Most thieves like the "soft target". Protect your stuff by making your car harder to steal than the next guy's. __________________ 2010 Black Cherry Touring/Sport/Nav Now - 2012 Travese LTZ until I leave for Turkey

01-09-2011, 10:34 PM	#22 (permalink)
vividracing The370Z.com Sponsor Join Date: Jun 2009 Location: Gilbert, AZ Age: 38 Posts: 7,306 Drives: 350Z,370Z,GTR Rep Power: 39	if someone really wants to steal your car, they will find a way to do it. best thing is to have insurance __________________ Rocky @ Vivid ♦ 480.966.3040 x236 ♦ Rocky@vividracing.com Email, PM, or call me directly for aggressive The370Z.com member pricing!!!

01-09-2011, 11:57 PM	#24 (permalink)
Lemers A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Mar 2010 Location: Izmir, Turkey Posts: 15,371 Drives: 2012 Traverse LTZ Rep Power: 52	They aren't concerned about restarting your car when it's sitting on the chop shop floor in a million pieces. __________________ 2010 Black Cherry Touring/Sport/Nav Now - 2012 Travese LTZ until I leave for Turkey

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01-09-2011, 12:50 PM	#17 (permalink)
SkyZ Enthusiast Member Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: Canada Posts: 382 Drives: 09 370z PG M6 Rep Power: 16	from my understanding of the article it seems like a lot of the proposed solutions on this thread wont prevent people stealing the car. it seems like what they're doing is tricking the key into thinking the car is nearby (hence the guy within 8 meters) the key then sends out the unlock/ignition verification which is then transmitted to a wireless transmitter which fools the car into thinking the key is right there and starts the ignition.

01-09-2011, 11:48 PM	#23 (permalink)
N8GTOL Base Member Join Date: May 2010 Location: San Diego Posts: 228 Drives: and flies Rep Power: 22	so someone manages to steal the car by relaying the fob signal...what happens when they need to restart the car later? Do they just have that original signal stored and re-broadcast it? If so, it seems like an intermediate fix would be to program fobs with rotating coded signals. This may deter some would-be thiefs if they know they can only start the car once. But maybe they wouldnt care if they are just taking it to a chop shop.

01-10-2011, 01:23 AM	#25 (permalink)
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01-10-2011, 11:35 AM	#26 (permalink)
kenchan A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Aug 2009 Location: N/A Posts: 76,801 Drives: N/A Rep Power: 141521	Considering the trouble I think theives will concentrate on stealing your wheels than the entire car. Pretty soon all cars will have gps and it im sure it will be easier to trace the car ....let alone be able to get status info online in realtime.