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I have come to a conclusion that I do not need a 370Z right now... I'm only 21 years old and I noticed even maintaing this car takes a lot

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Old 01-08-2011, 02:51 AM   #1 (permalink)
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I have come to a conclusion that I do not need a 370Z right now...
I'm only 21 years old and I noticed even maintaing this car takes a lot of money! I think I got myself into a big mistake lol... All those tickets made me broke. As a college student with a part-time job I was a zomebie at times. I am going to a dealership and see my options and if I can test drive of course!
How much would I be losing if I trade in my 370z?
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I havent heard alot of good things about the new Evos.

only things I remember is shitty *** gearbox and extremely mod unfriendly.

maintaining costs alot of money? its like what? a oil change once or twice a year?

the tickets problem isn't the car but you.
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I havent heard alot of good things about the new Evos.

only things I remember is shitty *** gearbox and extremely mod unfriendly.

maintaining costs alot of money? its like what? a oil change once or twice a year?

the tickets problem isn't the car but you.
Tires, Oil changes, Cleaning, Gas, Driving, Traffic, Weather Conditions.
Getting yelled at by all my friends and family for being shelfish and getting a 2 seater.
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A. Evo X is way slower than 370z. I was smoking moddified EVO's and STI's with my then stock 370.

B. How the hell do you afford a 370 if your still in school, someone has to be obviously helping you pay your bills.

C. Some of your reasons to get rid of it you listed are "tires, gas, driving, cleaning, traffic, oil changes" Lets see, im at 15,000 miles and still on my stock tires, evo uses same premium gas and abut the same gas mileage, so I dont see your logic there, driving, well umm its a car thats what you fing do with it, cleaning...every car needs to be cleaned and unless you have lights and sirens on your evo, traffic is NOT gunna clear up just because you have an evo. Only logical thing you said is weather conditions because yes, being a previous evo owner myself, that AWD does come in handy in the winter

D. If money is an issue, you will LOOSE big time by trading in for an evo

E. TRUE car enthusiasts prefer the gsr over mr because gsr is stick (no offense AT guys, but we all know MT is the true way to go with a sports car) as well as it being known that the MR's transmission cant handle much more hp than stock, so you have really no options in modding it

F. There are plenty more mods available for the 370z than there are the evo

G. I got pulled over WEEKLY when I had my evo, that thing is a HUGE cop magnet! I have not gotten pulled over ONCE in my 370 in 2 years. I drive the same way I did with my evo, and my Z is 10x louder and more modified. I believe the 370 is a true gentlemans car. So if your worried about tickets and stuff, you mind as well put a sign on your back that says "I have a lot of illegal drugs and weapons on my person" cause you will prob still have less issues with cops than you will driving around with an EVO at 21 years old

My advice? Get rid of your 370 for a 14k Jeep. Finish school, grow up, learn more about cars, get a steady job, and then come back and buy a 370. I myself will welcome you with open arms
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I havent heard alot of good things about the new Evos.

only things I remember is shitty *** gearbox and extremely mod unfriendly.

maintaining costs alot of money? its like what? a oil change once or twice a year?

the tickets problem isn't the car but you.
The Evo X GSR's tranny is just about bullet proof and all Evo X's can get an easy 90+ brake horse power with just a tune ($500). They are about the cheapest performance cars to mod on the road today. A Tune, hard upper intercooler piping and exhaust will easily net you 110+ horsepower at the wheels. Evo's of the last generations continually set records in all race disciplines they participate in.
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The Evo X GSR's tranny is just about bullet proof and all Evo X's can get an easy 90+ brake horse power with just a tune ($500). They are about the cheapest performance cars to mod on the road today. A Tune, hard upper intercooler piping and exhaust will easily net you 110+ horsepower at the wheels. Evo's of the last generations continually set records in all race disciplines they participate in.
No. You will not get 90+ from just a tune. From a downpipe, cai, and a tune? Yeah, that's reasonable.

Keep in mind though -- even with all of that, you will just be touching what a 370Z has at the wheels, stock.

The Evo X is a great car -- don't get me wrong -- but if you are really looking for "big power" it is still going to cost you some major cash. You hit a wall around 330 that requires an investment to get past.

I'm not getting into this argument here, though.

It's a great car, but both the STi and the Evo are -not- the heroes they once were.
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No. You will not get 90+ from just a tune. From a downpipe, cai, and a tune? Yeah, that's reasonable.

Keep in mind though -- even with all of that, you will just be touching what a 370Z has at the wheels, stock.

The Evo X is a great car -- don't get me wrong -- but if you are really looking for "big power" it is still going to cost you some major cash. You hit a wall around 330 that requires an investment to get past.

I'm not getting into this argument here, though.

It's a great car, but both the STi and the Evo are -not- the heroes they once were.
I completely understand it seems implausible that this is the case, but I assure you that there are many, many examples of this fact, remember this is 90 Brake horsepower, not at the wheels. Depending on the type of dyno of course and other factors, most stock X's sit at about 245 whp, with ONLY a tune 300 whp is easily, safely and reliably attainable (Keep in mind the additional parasitic drive train loss from being all wheel drive). I would be happy to provide further information if you would like. The 370z is a fantastic and very capable car, but there are plenty of reasons why the Evo is also a wonderful performance buy. It really shines once you start modding and does not require much to be extremely competitive. If anyone is ever curious, take a look at the many great forum resources and see for yourself.
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I completely understand it seems implausible that this is the case, but I assure you that there are many, many examples of this fact, remember this is 90 Brake horsepower, not at the wheels. Depending on the type of dyno of course and other factors, most stock X's sit at about 245 whp, with ONLY a tune 300 whp is easily, safely and reliably attainable (Keep in mind the additional parasitic drive train loss from being all wheel drive). I would be happy to provide further information if you would like. The 370z is a fantastic and very capable car, but there are plenty of reasons why the Evo is also a wonderful performance buy. It really shines once you start modding and does not require much to be extremely competitive. If anyone is ever curious, take a look at the many great forum resources and see for yourself.
Oh, alright, yeah. I was under the impression you were strictly speaking at the wheels.

My bad then.
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I have come to a conclusion that I do not need a 370Z right now...
I'm only 21 years old and I noticed even maintaing this car takes a lot of money! I think I got myself into a big mistake lol... All those tickets made me broke. As a college student with a part-time job I was a zomebie at times. I am going to a dealership and see my options and if I can test drive of course!
How much would I be losing if I trade in my 370z?
I have 2009 Nissan 370z Base + Sports with Stillen Cat Back Exhaust, Stillen HFC, Stillen CAI, UpRev Tune.
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I am confused here. The 370Z has a 5/60 powertrain and 3/36 warranty, and you shouldn't be outside either of those. Oil/brakes/tires won't be any cheaper than on the EVO.

I was broke as hell in college and rolled an old WS6, and yeah, THAT was a PITA when it broke. No warranty, but with a warranty it sounds like you have it made?

The thing I would worry with (depending on your downpayment) is being upside down in trade possibly?

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Tires, Oil changes, Cleaning, Gas, Driving, Traffic, Weather Conditions.
Getting yelled at by all my friends and family for being shelfish and getting a 2 seater.
Oil only needs to be changed every 6K miles or so if you use a good synthetic. It only takes an hour or two of your time and about $80 even if you use some of the more expensive oil/filter combos out there.

The Evo will get worse mileage.

Weather conditions, the Evo will do better with AWD.

Getting yelled at by friends and family for spending your money how you want can be cured by telling them to shove it and finding new friends/setting limits with your family.

Cleaning? I don't understand this cost or how it would differ between a Z and an EVO. Same with traffic.

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I honestly think this is a bad decision. If you're trying to save some money, which i think you are, trading in a car is most definitly NOT a good way. unless, ofcourse its a sh!tty car. You're gonna lose money trading in your car no matter how you look at it. And what high cost maintainance are you talking about? Last time I checked 370z is a japanese car, not a european. And ticket is all your fault....hands down, not your 370.
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tires will be the same on the evo, oil changes same on evo, cleaning same on evo, gas pretty much the same, driving...the same except for AWD, traffic its gonna be the same its not like the evo will suddenly make driving shitloads easier. weather yeah if its snowing.

I think the only problem you have is peer pressure of your friends whining and benig jealous.
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I agree with all thats been said above. Trading it in would not be a good move
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yea, you should totally get the new Evo.

It will change your life. The 370Z's high cost of maintenance will be a thing of the past.

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if I remember right, I read that even getting drop in airfilters can destroy the MAF(?) sensors. also about how shitty the gearbox and that it cant handle any extra power
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if I remember right, I read that even getting drop in airfilters can destroy the MAF(?) sensors. also about how shitty the gearbox and that it cant handle any extra power
My friend just picked up a nice 500+awhp EVO. Had another friend with a low 12-second EVO8 a few years back. Know another girl with a stock EVO8. All drive/drove aggressively and never had any issues.

However, we are talking about 2 cars under warranty. Maintenance should be the only expense, and that is about equal.
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