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Mt Tam I am 01-05-2011 10:23 AM

Woman killed my Z
 
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Yesterday I was dealing with a woman who looked familiar to me, and I to her. I assumed I had dealt with her before. Oh I had only not professionally. I was about to write her a check when I saw her name.
I said "I do know you" She asked "how" and I responded "you don't want to know. On April 19th, I was parked on the side of the road, far away from all other cars. When you drunkenly plowed into my car at 60 MPH."
You should have seen the look on her face. "you had the green sports car"
Yes a 1995 300ZXTT with 68K miles and in perfect shape. I am the one who arrested her under PC831, citizens arrest, and would not let her leave with her friend who was there and trying to save her from the law. I told her friend if she leaves while I go call the cops I would have his job (I know lots of folks), dropped his bosses name, and he was very cooperative from that point on. I was calm and cool in the moment, and never lost my temper.

In April she told the cops I pulled out in front of her. A pretty good trick since I was having dinner across the street. Today she admitted I was not there at the time.

She was arrested for DUI and still has 3 classes to attend. Must have cost her thousands more in fines etc. Her brand new Mercedes convertible was totaled too. Now she drives a 1995 Mercedes and I drive the new Nissan. Sort of a reversal of fortune.

Time can heal wounds. Starting the next day, I referred to her by the acronym Can't Understand Normal Thought. Although I thought I would come unglued dealing with insurance companies, it is all behind me now.

Without her in my life I would not have bought a 370Z, since I loved my 300. I compare my loss to somebody who loved his wife for 15 years before she was killed by a drunk driver. Then remarries and finds a whole new love.

Today I am even scheduled to get those coil overs installed. Life moved on.

(could not upload pics for some reason. Here is representative pic.)

SPOHN 01-05-2011 10:31 AM

What a story. That's something.

kenchan 01-05-2011 10:49 AM

dang, so did you close your bank account right after writing her the check so it would bounce? :D

daisuke149 01-05-2011 10:51 AM

odd question, but what were you writing her a check for??

m4a1mustang 01-05-2011 10:51 AM

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Originally Posted by daisuke149 (Post 881592)
odd question, but what were you writing her a check for??

"Professional Services."


j/k.

Interesting story.

Mt Tam I am 01-05-2011 11:04 AM

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Originally Posted by kenchan (Post 881588)
dang, so did you close your bank account right after writing her the check so it would bounce? :D

I thought about it. But since what she had instantly turned into $1000 profit, I decided I was better off.

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Originally Posted by daisuke149 (Post 881592)
odd question, but what were you writing her a check for??

I bought her personal items, such as her childhood bracelet, her fathers gold that he took with him from Iran back in 1980, and her mothers ring.

She told me she had more and I said sure, "See you next Tuesday" another acronym. Think texting.

tsolin01 01-05-2011 11:11 AM

That's what I call Karma lol

kenchan 01-05-2011 11:30 AM

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Originally Posted by Mt Tam I am (Post 881616)
I thought about it. But since what she had instantly turned into $1000 profit, I decided I was better off.

:tup: sounds great.


wow, she really screwed it up for herself, huh?

christian370z 01-05-2011 12:00 PM

Wow, that is something else. It only goes to show how small of a world it really is, at least you were never physically hurt in that accident!

Mt Tam I am 01-05-2011 01:44 PM

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Originally Posted by kenchan (Post 881588)
dang, so did you close your bank account right after writing her the check so it would bounce? :D

Oddly she called me today because I dated the check 2010. Then she wanted to talk more, like I was her priest.

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Originally Posted by christian370z (Post 881695)
Wow, that is something else. It only goes to show how small of a world it really is, at least you were never physically hurt in that accident!

You are so right, although at the time I might have argued with you.

98intrigue 01-05-2011 02:56 PM

And this is why I believe in karma.

ImportConvert 01-05-2011 03:02 PM

I disregard Karma, but that's a neat coincidence. It just sounds to me like her life-pattern of fail after fail is finally catching up and manifesting itself outwardly.

Pharmacist 01-05-2011 05:08 PM

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Originally Posted by Mt Tam I am (Post 881558)
I told her friend if she leaves while I go call the cops I would have his job (I know lots of folks), dropped his bosses name, and he was very cooperative from that point on.

so how did you know where he works, what his name is, and who is boss is? Sounds a bit like hollow bravado. And even if you did neither you nor his boss can really fire him. That would be wrongful termination and grounds for a lawsuit. Obviously he's wrong to cover up for his friend but that was quite a weak bluff on your part. Surprised he didnt call you out on it.

wilsonp 01-05-2011 06:51 PM

In California, wrongful termination is extremely hard to win.

PapoZalsa 01-05-2011 07:40 PM

WOW!!! :woot::woot:

FL 4Motion 01-05-2011 08:01 PM

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Originally Posted by Mt Tam I am (Post 881897)
Oddly she called me today because I dated the check 2010. Then she wanted to talk more, like I was her priest.



You are so right, although at the time I might have argued with you.


/\ I don't know why but I have a feeling the end of this story is going to be the OP telling us he banged this chick in the next week or two.

optiontrader 01-05-2011 08:51 PM

A great story - not so great what happened to your car.

Almost seems surreal - mebbe you should make a short of it and post it on UTube. :D

schrack150 01-05-2011 09:10 PM

nice acronyms

Pharmacist 01-05-2011 10:21 PM

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Originally Posted by wilsonp (Post 882373)
In California, wrongful termination is extremely hard to win.

Why? You guys dont have human rights in california?

frost 01-05-2011 10:23 PM

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Originally Posted by Pharmacist (Post 882706)
Why? You guys dont have human rights in california?

You can fire people for anything, other than the protected classes (race, religion, sexual orientation, etc.).
Employment at will.

fullmonty 01-05-2011 10:36 PM

I gota give it to you man for not losing it. I don't know what the hell I'd do

Pharmacist 01-05-2011 10:42 PM

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Originally Posted by frost (Post 882708)
You can fire people for anything, other than the protected classes (race, religion, sexual orientation, etc.).
Employment at will.

Well if an employer was that kind of ******* mixing business with personal matters i hope his employees are giving him **** and that no one would want to work for him

z... 01-05-2011 10:44 PM

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Originally Posted by FL 4Motion (Post 882464)
/\ I don't know why but I have a feeling the end of this story is going to be the OP telling us he banged this chick in the next week or two.

exactly my thoughts...

frost 01-05-2011 10:45 PM

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Originally Posted by Pharmacist (Post 882731)
Well if an employer was that kind of ******* mixing business with personal matters i hope his employees are giving him **** and that no one would want to work for him

I agree I think it would be a shitty thing to do, but there is no law that prevents him from doing it.

Mt Tam I am 01-05-2011 11:04 PM

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Originally Posted by Pharmacist (Post 882236)
so how did you know where he works, what his name is, and who is boss is? Sounds a bit like hollow bravado. And even if you did neither you nor his boss can really fire him. That would be wrongful termination and grounds for a lawsuit. Obviously he's wrong to cover up for his friend but that was quite a weak bluff on your part. Surprised he didnt call you out on it.

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Originally Posted by Pharmacist (Post 882706)
Why? You guys dont have human rights in california?

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Originally Posted by Pharmacist (Post 882731)
Well if an employer was that kind of ******* mixing business with personal matters i hope his employees are giving him **** and that no one would want to work for him

Mr. K , the boss in this story is one of the most stand-up individuals I have ever known. I have known him my entire life, he is 89 years of age, worth a ton and I have never heard anyone ever say a negative word about him. If I told him one of his employees, while on the clock, helped a drunk to hit, then run, which is not legal in this state, and would then continue to employ, is unthinkable to me.

I don't know how may would agree with you that criminal behavior is a human right. Not even in California.

Mt Tam I am 01-05-2011 11:06 PM

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Originally Posted by FL 4Motion (Post 882464)
/\ I don't know why but I have a feeling the end of this story is going to be the OP telling us he banged this chick in the next week or two.

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Originally Posted by z... (Post 882734)
exactly my thoughts...

That is funny.

samb03 01-05-2011 11:12 PM

connections go both ways. I work with a kid that got hired because his girl friends uncle is a superintendant in prominent oil company. He controls who get work. My company hired his "nephew", and he got put on my crew. He sucked at the job and was unreliable. We kicked him off and now our crew is black ball from that companies locations. My company isn't going to fire him. As long as he doesn't assault somebody and shows up to work pretty often his job is safe. That is the real world.

vividracing 01-05-2011 11:27 PM

awesome story and a good example of car-ma! :P

Pharmacist 01-06-2011 12:29 AM

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Originally Posted by Mt Tam I am (Post 882768)
Mr. K , the boss in this story is one of the most stand-up individuals I have ever known. I have known him my entire life, he is 89 years of age, worth a ton and I have never heard anyone ever say a negative word about him. If I told him one of his employees, while on the clock, helped a drunk to hit, then run, which is not legal in this state, and would then continue to employ, is unthinkable to me.

I don't know how may would agree with you that criminal behavior is a human right. Not even in California.

You said it, it is a criminal case. Its up to the police and courts to handle it, not for mr. K to stick his nose in it. Not to mention that everyone is innocent till proven guilty. And what kind of business is it that mr. K is involved in that has his employees accompanying drunk women in sports cars late at night? :icon14:

Mt Tam I am 01-06-2011 09:35 AM

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Originally Posted by Pharmacist (Post 882864)
You said it, it is a criminal case. Its up to the police and courts to handle it, not for mr. K to stick his nose in it. Not to mention that everyone is innocent till proven guilty. And what kind of business is it that mr. K is involved in that has his employees accompanying drunk women in sports cars late at night? :icon14:

The accident occurred at 6:50 PM along the 38 parallel in April before sundown. Hardly late at night.

In this case Mr. K owns a 450 unit luxury apartment complex one mile away. Mr. K's uniformed (grounds keeper) employee driving Mr. K's company truck, while on the clock, attempted to put the woman that just hit my car, in Mr K's truck and drive off. Assisting somebody while in the commission of a crime, is a crime. Employers often find themselves liable for what their employees do.

Had the employee actually driven off he too would have been included in the mess. He did not drive off, so no crime on his part, As a result Mr K. had no involvement in this case.

RE: Not to mention that everyone is innocent till proven guilty. Although witnessed, the drunk woman initially denied she hit my car, then she told me I pulled out in front of her. She had a hard time walking.

A striking difference between us is that I do not give her the benefit of the doubt. She did it. She is guilty. Had he driven off with her he too would be guilty. Please do not give that legal BS that Hitler was innocent because he never had his day in court. You do it, you are guilty.

In the end she went to jail, admitting to her guilt. Mr. K's employee ended up doing the right thing. Mr. K had no involvement, although I did mention what a polite employee he had.

shadoquad 01-06-2011 09:44 AM

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Originally Posted by Pharmacist (Post 882864)
You said it, it is a criminal case. Its up to the police and courts to handle it, not for mr. K to stick his nose in it. Not to mention that everyone is innocent till proven guilty. And what kind of business is it that mr. K is involved in that has his employees accompanying drunk women in sports cars late at night? :icon14:

Would you be ok if your company's name was associated with a crime? Used as an escape car to impede a subsequent investigation? Would you be ok with the PR hit, lawsuits, and loss of business that would surely follow?

Who knows? Maybe Mr. K doesn't fire this guy until it's proven in a court of law. Maybe he says, "Mt Tam, you're full of sh**, my guy wouldn't do that?" Or maybe it was a hollow bluff. Point is, dropping that name worked in preventing a crime.

Mt Tam I am 01-06-2011 09:51 AM

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Originally Posted by shadoquad (Post 883081)
Would you be ok if your company's name was associated with a crime? Used as an escape car to impede a subsequent investigation? Would you be ok with the PR hit, lawsuits, and loss of business that would surely follow?

Who knows? Maybe Mr. K doesn't fire this guy until it's proven in a court of law. Maybe he says, "Mt Tam, you're full of sh**, my guy wouldn't do that?" Or maybe it was a hollow bluff. Point is, dropping that name worked in preventing a crime.

Thank you. Exactly.

ProfessorDave 01-06-2011 03:14 PM

Hey, I would have said ANYTHING I could think of to stop someone from leaving the scene of a crime, especially if there was a Z involved! Tell the friend you know his Mommy for all I care. This DB wants to help someone try to avoid the consequences of their actions?! You did the right thing, OP. Too bad you had to cross paths with this woman again.

BTW, any Sex and the City fan would get the See You Next Tuesday response you gave her. I'll bet it sunk in a few seconds after you left!

Pharmacist 01-07-2011 01:55 PM

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Originally Posted by Mt Tam I am (Post 883069)
The accident occurred at 6:50 PM along the 38 parallel in April before sundown. Hardly late at night.

In this case Mr. K owns a 450 unit luxury apartment complex one mile away. Mr. K's uniformed (grounds keeper) employee driving Mr. K's company truck, while on the clock, attempted to put the woman that just hit my car, in Mr K's truck and drive off. Assisting somebody while in the commission of a crime, is a crime. Employers often find themselves liable for what their employees do.

Had the employee actually driven off he too would have been included in the mess. He did not drive off, so no crime on his part, As a result Mr K. had no involvement in this case.

RE: Not to mention that everyone is innocent till proven guilty. Although witnessed, the drunk woman initially denied she hit my car, then she told me I pulled out in front of her. She had a hard time walking.

A striking difference between us is that I do not give her the benefit of the doubt. She did it. She is guilty. Had he driven off with her he too would be guilty. Please do not give that legal BS that Hitler was innocent because he never had his day in court. You do it, you are guilty.

In the end she went to jail, admitting to her guilt. Mr. K's employee ended up doing the right thing. Mr. K had no involvement, although I did mention what a polite employee he had.

Well obviously that changes things. If the employee was on the clock and driving a company car that definitely exposes the employer to bad PR and also vicarious liability. That is legitimate grounds for termination. Without this information, it seemed like you were trying to drag the employer into an issue that does not concern him just to settle a personal issue with one of his employees. That's what I was commenting on.

And yes, the Hitler thing was different. It was a war, not a criminal case. In a war you are fighting an enemy, not punishing them for a crime. But yes, if he was caught alive and was to be punished for his crimes, then he would be entitled to his day in court where he would be innocent till proven guilty.

CrownR426 01-07-2011 02:07 PM

Sad story...
You had a very clean ZX...
I'm a strong believer in karma and this just helps me even more!
What goes around comes arounddddd!
So becareful all!

Jeffblue 01-07-2011 02:23 PM

The story about your 300zx is very sad. you had such a nice one. the 300zx is one of those cars thats old enough that if you didn't know what is, and its in amazing shape, you might think it was a brand new car.

However, the story about running into the woman, that is an awesome story! the only dissappointing thing is that the woman is 'driving' a 1995 mercedes. she shouldn't be driving anything. Driving is a privilage, and i think once you DUI you should lose that privilage for a very long time, and according to your story this DUI took place in April? even if it was April 2009, thats still too soon.


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