Woman killed my Z

shadoquad · 01-06-2011, 10:44 AM

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Originally Posted by Pharmacist

You said it, it is a criminal case. Its up to the police and courts to handle it, not for mr. K to stick his nose in it. Not to mention that everyone is innocent till proven guilty. And what kind of business is it that mr. K is involved in that has his employees accompanying drunk women in sports cars late at night?

Would you be ok if your company's name was associated with a crime? Used as an escape car to impede a subsequent investigation? Would you be ok with the PR hit, lawsuits, and loss of business that would surely follow?

Who knows? Maybe Mr. K doesn't fire this guy until it's proven in a court of law. Maybe he says, "Mt Tam, you're full of sh**, my guy wouldn't do that?" Or maybe it was a hollow bluff. Point is, dropping that name worked in preventing a crime.

Mt Tam I am · 01-06-2011, 10:51 AM

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Originally Posted by shadoquad

Would you be ok if your company's name was associated with a crime? Used as an escape car to impede a subsequent investigation? Would you be ok with the PR hit, lawsuits, and loss of business that would surely follow?

Who knows? Maybe Mr. K doesn't fire this guy until it's proven in a court of law. Maybe he says, "Mt Tam, you're full of sh**, my guy wouldn't do that?" Or maybe it was a hollow bluff. Point is, dropping that name worked in preventing a crime.

Thank you. Exactly.

ProfessorDave · 01-06-2011, 04:14 PM

Hey, I would have said ANYTHING I could think of to stop someone from leaving the scene of a crime, especially if there was a Z involved! Tell the friend you know his Mommy for all I care. This DB wants to help someone try to avoid the consequences of their actions?! You did the right thing, OP. Too bad you had to cross paths with this woman again.

BTW, any Sex and the City fan would get the See You Next Tuesday response you gave her. I'll bet it sunk in a few seconds after you left!

Pharmacist · 01-07-2011, 02:55 PM

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Originally Posted by Mt Tam I am

The accident occurred at 6:50 PM along the 38 parallel in April before sundown. Hardly late at night.

In this case Mr. K owns a 450 unit luxury apartment complex one mile away. Mr. K's uniformed (grounds keeper) employee driving Mr. K's company truck, while on the clock, attempted to put the woman that just hit my car, in Mr K's truck and drive off. Assisting somebody while in the commission of a crime, is a crime. Employers often find themselves liable for what their employees do.

Had the employee actually driven off he too would have been included in the mess. He did not drive off, so no crime on his part, As a result Mr K. had no involvement in this case.

RE: Not to mention that everyone is innocent till proven guilty. Although witnessed, the drunk woman initially denied she hit my car, then she told me I pulled out in front of her. She had a hard time walking.

A striking difference between us is that I do not give her the benefit of the doubt. She did it. She is guilty. Had he driven off with her he too would be guilty. Please do not give that legal BS that Hitler was innocent because he never had his day in court. You do it, you are guilty.

In the end she went to jail, admitting to her guilt. Mr. K's employee ended up doing the right thing. Mr. K had no involvement, although I did mention what a polite employee he had.

Well obviously that changes things. If the employee was on the clock and driving a company car that definitely exposes the employer to bad PR and also vicarious liability. That is legitimate grounds for termination. Without this information, it seemed like you were trying to drag the employer into an issue that does not concern him just to settle a personal issue with one of his employees. That's what I was commenting on.

And yes, the Hitler thing was different. It was a war, not a criminal case. In a war you are fighting an enemy, not punishing them for a crime. But yes, if he was caught alive and was to be punished for his crimes, then he would be entitled to his day in court where he would be innocent till proven guilty.

CrownR426 · 01-07-2011, 03:07 PM

Sad story...
You had a very clean ZX...
I'm a strong believer in karma and this just helps me even more!
What goes around comes arounddddd!
So becareful all!

Jeffblue · 01-07-2011, 03:23 PM

The story about your 300zx is very sad. you had such a nice one. the 300zx is one of those cars thats old enough that if you didn't know what is, and its in amazing shape, you might think it was a brand new car.

However, the story about running into the woman, that is an awesome story! the only dissappointing thing is that the woman is 'driving' a 1995 mercedes. she shouldn't be driving anything. Driving is a privilage, and i think once you DUI you should lose that privilage for a very long time, and according to your story this DUI took place in April? even if it was April 2009, thats still too soon.

01-06-2011, 04:14 PM	#33 (permalink)
ProfessorDave A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Jul 2010 Location: Scranton, PA Posts: 1,580 Drives: In the fairway Rep Power: 19	Hey, I would have said ANYTHING I could think of to stop someone from leaving the scene of a crime, especially if there was a Z involved! Tell the friend you know his Mommy for all I care. This DB wants to help someone try to avoid the consequences of their actions?! You did the right thing, OP. Too bad you had to cross paths with this woman again. BTW, any Sex and the City fan would get the See You Next Tuesday response you gave her. I'll bet it sunk in a few seconds after you left! __________________ Rain, snow, sleet, hail: 2009 Mazda 3 sGT HB Everything else: 2009 370z, PW Touring 6MT

01-07-2011, 03:07 PM	#35 (permalink)
CrownR426 A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Nov 2008 Location: South Korea Posts: 4,676 Drives: Manual Rep Power: 848	Sad story... You had a very clean ZX... I'm a strong believer in karma and this just helps me even more! What goes around comes arounddddd! So becareful all! __________________ Love + Hardwork + Passion RIP SVTRacer

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01-07-2011, 03:23 PM	#36 (permalink)
Jeffblue A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: NY Age: 36 Posts: 9,192 Drives: Z32TT & 335xi Coupe Rep Power: 37	The story about your 300zx is very sad. you had such a nice one. the 300zx is one of those cars thats old enough that if you didn't know what is, and its in amazing shape, you might think it was a brand new car. However, the story about running into the woman, that is an awesome story! the only dissappointing thing is that the woman is 'driving' a 1995 mercedes. she shouldn't be driving anything. Driving is a privilage, and i think once you DUI you should lose that privilage for a very long time, and according to your story this DUI took place in April? even if it was April 2009, thats still too soon.