Larger Mass Air Flow

pokeyl · 01-05-2011, 11:14 AM

This is common in the Audi tt world. A larger Mass Air Tube (say 10%) then you increaase Fuel Pressure 10%. All things balance and you reduce intake restrections, IE increase the air to the motor, only a minor increase in total power but response is greatly improved. I saw the steep-down in my CAI tubes and thought about changing it.

kenchan · 01-05-2011, 11:52 AM

i would talk to modshack before doing this...(?)

halogodx · 01-05-2011, 12:25 PM

I think you might have to be able to crack the VVEL to do that ?

bullitt5897 · 01-05-2011, 12:26 PM

Call GTM! They have the VVEL solution and the larger mass air tubes along with the ability to tune it all!

Zeto · 01-05-2011, 01:06 PM

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Originally Posted by bullitt5897

Call GTM! They have the VVEL solution and the larger mass air tubes along with the ability to tune it all!

More info about what they did to VVEL please!

Junior370z · 01-05-2011, 01:14 PM

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Originally Posted by bullitt5897

Call GTM! They have the VVEL solution and the larger mass air tubes along with the ability to tune it all!

Yes do tell!

bullitt5897 · 01-05-2011, 01:23 PM

It will all be released with my car. Conjecture says something along the lines of a piggyback or standalone unit to control VVEL. Sam has some big things in store *cough* possibly some N/A monsters

*cough* you didnt hear it from me!!!! I wasnt even here!!!

christian370z · 01-05-2011, 01:28 PM

Haha, thanks Bullitt! N/A options would be absolutely amazing as a tie over before FI.

Junior370z · 01-05-2011, 01:32 PM

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Originally Posted by christian370z

Haha, thanks Bullitt! N/A options would be absolutely amazing as a tie over before FI.

ClemsonWill · 01-05-2011, 02:39 PM

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Originally Posted by bullitt5897

It will all be released with my car. Conjecture says something along the lines of a piggyback or standalone unit to control VVEL. Sam has some big things in store *cough* possibly some N/A monsters

*cough* you didnt hear it from me!!!! I wasnt even here!!!

So cough up the time frame..... when will we get to hear more about all this?

WarmAndSCSI · 01-05-2011, 03:06 PM

Oh please don't allow this discussion to any further. The stock MAF housings provide more than enough flow for whatever power you're ever going to make N/A. The fact that our engines already have two intake tracts provides MORE THAN ENOUGH capacity for future modifications.

But go ahead, waste your money

Just don't confuse this N/A platform for one that greatly benefits from induction modifications like with pre-turbo intake modifications on an Evo, STi, Audi TT/S4, whatever...

bullitt5897 · 01-05-2011, 03:12 PM

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Originally Posted by WarmAndSCSI

Oh please don't allow this discussion to any further. The stock MAF housings provide more than enough flow for whatever power you're ever going to make N/A. The fact that our engines already have two intake tracts provides MORE THAN ENOUGH capacity for future modifications.

But go ahead, waste your money

Just don't confuse this N/A platform for one that greatly benefits from induction modifications like with pre-turbo intake modifications on an Evo, STi, Audi TT/S4, whatever...

SCSI is right we were going to stay with stock sized MAFs but then revised our plans since we are looking at beyound 1000rwhp. look at it this way... if the stock MAFs are good for 500hp turbo cars you arent going to need bigger ones on a N/A car... Tunning will provide the best bang for the buck and with GTM's 1st unit coming out this month you better believe your gonna want some!

Junior370z · 01-05-2011, 04:53 PM

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Originally Posted by bullitt5897

SCSI is right we were going to stay with stock sized MAFs but then revised our plans since we are looking at beyound 1000rwhp. look at it this way... if the stock MAFs are good for 500hp turbo cars you arent going to need bigger ones on a N/A car... Tunning will provide the best bang for the buck and with GTM's 1st unit coming out this month you better believe your gonna want some!

And I want some!

Jordo! · 01-05-2011, 05:03 PM

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Originally Posted by bullitt5897

It will all be released with my car. Conjecture says something along the lines of a piggyback or standalone unit to control VVEL. Sam has some big things in store *cough* possibly some N/A monsters

*cough* you didnt hear it from me!!!! I wasnt even here!!!

Something that controls the actuators directly? When will we hear more about this?

bullitt5897 · 01-05-2011, 05:13 PM

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Originally Posted by bullitt5897

It will all be released with my car.

^^^ I hope this answers your question.

01-05-2011, 11:14 AM	#1 (permalink)
pokeyl Track Member Join Date: Nov 2010 Location: DFS Posts: 900 Drives: ??? Rep Power: 55	Larger Mass Air Flow This is common in the Audi tt world. A larger Mass Air Tube (say 10%) then you increaase Fuel Pressure 10%. All things balance and you reduce intake restrections, IE increase the air to the motor, only a minor increase in total power but response is greatly improved. I saw the steep-down in my CAI tubes and thought about changing it.

01-05-2011, 12:26 PM	#4 (permalink)
bullitt5897 Premium Member Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: North GA Posts: 6,831 Drives: Twin Turbo Z34 Rep Power: 3683	Call GTM! They have the VVEL solution and the larger mass air tubes along with the ability to tune it all! __________________ *Shop Cars: 2013 318whp Nismo VspecII 370z SOLD, 2009 1000hp+ 93oct 4.0L TT 370z Fast Intentions STAGE 4 #054*

01-05-2011, 01:23 PM	#7 (permalink)
bullitt5897 Premium Member Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: North GA Posts: 6,831 Drives: Twin Turbo Z34 Rep Power: 3683	It will all be released with my car. Conjecture says something along the lines of a piggyback or standalone unit to control VVEL. Sam has some big things in store cough possibly some N/A monsters cough you didnt hear it from me!!!! I wasnt even here!!! __________________ *Shop Cars: 2013 318whp Nismo VspecII 370z SOLD, 2009 1000hp+ 93oct 4.0L TT 370z Fast Intentions STAGE 4 #054*

01-05-2011, 01:28 PM	#8 (permalink)
christian370z A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Jul 2010 Location: Newport Beach Posts: 3,900 Drives: 2010 370Z/Saab 900se Rep Power: 432	Haha, thanks Bullitt! N/A options would be absolutely amazing as a tie over before FI. __________________ -320whp / 259wftlbs- SP Rays -- RE-11s -- SpecialtyZ Tune -- Swift Springs -- Stillen 25R Oil Cooler -- Stillen G3 Intakes -- Berk HFCs -- F.I. 12" CBE -- Stillen Sway Bars -- Es14 Spring -- INGS+1 lip -- CF Spoiler -- GTR Start Button -- VLED Parking Lights -- PWJDM V2 shift knob

01-05-2011, 03:06 PM	#11 (permalink)
WarmAndSCSI A True Z Fanatic Join Date: May 2010 Location: SLC, UT Posts: 1,671 Drives: '08 Evo X \| '10 370Z Rep Power: 18	Oh please don't allow this discussion to any further. The stock MAF housings provide more than enough flow for whatever power you're ever going to make N/A. The fact that our engines already have two intake tracts provides MORE THAN ENOUGH capacity for future modifications. But go ahead, waste your money Just don't confuse this N/A platform for one that greatly benefits from induction modifications like with pre-turbo intake modifications on an Evo, STi, Audi TT/S4, whatever... __________________ '10 PW 370Z 7AT - wife's car - Project Raspberry Cheesecake '08 Evo X - built motor+trans \| BB-X @ 32 psi \| CH3OH \| self-built+tuned - ??? WHP '01 Galant V6 - built motor \| GT35R \| self-built+tuned - 550+ WHP (retired)

01-05-2011, 11:52 AM	#2 (permalink)
kenchan A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Aug 2009 Location: N/A Posts: 76,801 Drives: N/A Rep Power: 141521	i would talk to modshack before doing this...(?)

01-05-2011, 12:25 PM	#3 (permalink)
halogodx Base Member Join Date: Sep 2009 Location: daytona beach Posts: 93 Drives: 09 nissan 370z 7AT Rep Power: 16	I think you might have to be able to crack the VVEL to do that ?

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