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Mt Tam I am 01-02-2011 09:51 AM

Are my new stiffer sways screwing with VDC?
 
I recently installed Hotchkis sways *. I was coming out of a turn, gave it some (not WOT) gas and the rear end tried to slide out. I lessened the throttle and corrected, I could see the VDC light flash on the dash. No big deal. My first thought was I had turned off VDC only to realize it was on, I had forgotten to turn it off, like usual.

I thought the VDC would not allow you to break loose like this (giving it too much throttle) while in a turn. It has cut my throttle before I could break loose. Are my new stiffer sways screwing with VDC?

I realize whatever happens it is my fault. I am driving. I just thought the training wheels that are the VDC, would have deployed.

* middle hole on rears.

Junior370z 01-02-2011 09:56 AM

Maybe you didn't give it time too? How fast did you let off the pedal when you started to slide? I have the Stillen sways set to the stiffest in the rear and my vdc comes on still.

AllForTheCash 01-02-2011 09:58 AM

Happens to me as well. I can get the rear to slide and correct it myself WITH the VDC on. Infact sometimes I can get it slide and back in line without the VDC having to do anything (With it on). You're fine.

SPOHN 01-02-2011 10:16 AM

My G37 did the same thing but it wasnt to bad at all when it would slide out. It seems the car will slide some before the VDC can truely active. Somewhat like cause and effect. I really dislike VDC and choose not to have it. But it can serve a purpose to some.

shadow2k 01-02-2011 10:26 AM

You can still lose traction with VDC on. It is not a miracle button. It is there to correct minor mistakes, but can still be pushed past its limits.

Jordo! 01-02-2011 10:27 AM

Yep -- you can kick out the rear with the VDC on and it will correct itself.

Stiffer rear sways will definitely make it easier to oversteer.

m4a1mustang 01-02-2011 10:53 AM

You increase oversteer with a larger rear bar. The sways aren't messing with VDC. You changed the dynamics of the car so it's going to swing the rear out a lot easier now.

ChrisSlicks 01-02-2011 12:07 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by m4a1mustang (Post 876792)
You increase oversteer with a larger rear bar. The sways aren't messing with VDC. You changed the dynamics of the car so it's going to swing the rear out a lot easier now.

:iagree: You can always step the rear down to the softest setting.

ClemsonWill 01-02-2011 12:32 PM

My VDC light comes on all the time without any noticeable change in throttle response. I think you are good. My sway bars will be on in a few weeks so I will let you know if I notice any major change.

kenchan 01-02-2011 12:32 PM

You change one thing on the car it will affect the others.

Mt Tam I am 01-02-2011 02:11 PM

Thanks. Overall I am very happy with the settings. I just needed to get used to them. VDC is not my thing anyway.
Monday I hope to get those coil overs installed.

AllForTheCash 01-02-2011 03:12 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by shadow2k (Post 876779)
You can still lose traction with VDC on. It is not a miracle button. It is there to correct minor mistakes, but can still be pushed past its limits.


yes this is the extreme, but we are talking small controlled slips not a full take off :tup:

ProfessorDave 01-02-2011 03:23 PM

Does the ECU "learn" suspension mods? Just wondering.

I agree with the advice to drop to the first setting on the bar. I've always found the softest setting on an aftermarket bar to be a HUGE difference over stock.

SkyZ 01-02-2011 03:39 PM

i'd also add that vdc takes time to act, if it sense a slip it will try to prevent it this is for small slides, but for big ones it will try and try but it wont just fix everything in an instant. i mean give it time and eventually it'll save you.

Jordo! 01-02-2011 10:44 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ProfessorDave (Post 877097)
Does the ECU "learn" suspension mods? Just wondering.

I agree with the advice to drop to the first setting on the bar. I've always found the softest setting on an aftermarket bar to be a HUGE difference over stock.

I doubt it. VDC probably just responds to wheelspin as it happens.


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