Love my new Z, Chevron or Shell?

tnortonZ

Hi everyone, Former BMW owner here, now New 370z sport pkg owner here lolz. Very impressed by Nissans recent upgrades in quality in their cars thanks to the CEO and thought i'd dabble. Welp, 600 miles on my new baby, and did a 0 - 60 in exactly 5 seconds flat today bone stock on an uphill onramp-not even breaking 5k rpm!- for quick shift/rev break in. I was very impressed by this because the main powerband/max torque is between 5-6k rpm so 5 sec flat with 280-300hp and 220-250 torque aint bad!. Handles as good as my former 135i, yet just a tad heavier feel, but with better grip it seems. 1G on the skidpad is very impressive. 135i has a bit more torque but the Z seems to pull even harder once you get the rpms up there above 4k. Lovin this amazing sports car! Its really sad how much other sports car companies overcharge for performance, once you get in a Z you realize how badly porche and BMW and others are ripping you off all in the name of whats on the logo...

Anyways, just wondering which mothers milk is best, I know there are a couple good top teir but im still up in the air.

fairladyZ34

i use shell, its close to my house and i get 93 here in NJ

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TreeSemdyZee

Ditto. Except in Indiana

tnortonZ

Cali, (land of the tree hugging liberals) dont have no 93 for me. at least I havent seen a gas station with 93 in the bay area as of yet. all i got is 91 and terribad nastyness roads to drive on. Half the time I cant tell weather im driving on a lava bed or actual roads. Half the time I'd like to grab a gun and march up to the capital and demand to know wtf they are using the 40k + in taxes they get from me every year for. Cause it obviously not going to the **** roads.

TreeSemdyZee

Just a suggestion. Be REAL careful about making these kinds of statements on the Interwebs. It could come back to bite you in the butt. Not trying to be a d***. Big Brother is watching.

tnortonZ

Instead of being the peoples government, "Big Brother" in recent years has become a defunct, crimminally negligent, lie filled, spending whore that crimminally wastes my and your hard earned money and has managed to become a total slut to the military industrial complex and big time corporations and special interests, get our country into over 12 trillion in debt, wreck fair trade and anti trust laws, ruin american manufacturing, and put us into a world of hurt. They are lucky most people are either cowards, or have no clue whats really going on and are so stupid and fat happy lazy and complacent and content with their vain and empty dances with the stars fast food bent over take it up the butt with taxes life styles.

Among many things, Thomas Jefferson said quote " There should be a revolution once every 200 years." I suppose he didnt like the whole mantra of "The king can do no wrong" and big brother much either. Especially a defunct, criminal, gang like big brother who are friends of theives, and despite the frequent criminal negligence and sometimes commiting henious crimes, such as starting a war on false pretenses and violating international law-the law that we wrote i might add- or a senator spending 100,000 dollars of our tax dollars on plane fares for 1 year, or the sweet little 800k honey mayor down in SoCal when the town average is 35k a year, always seem to come out above the law. You dont pay your taxes? Say hello to neverending debt and jail time. Charlie rangel doesnt pay? Simple slap on the wrist. I am no coward sir, and "Big brother" does not scare me. They are lucky most people are so busy just trying to squeek by to really pay attention to how they are screwing us, and thats how they want us. All you have to do is watch all the brain washing bs on TV about how we glorify people that are dying for the Iraq lie or working 3 jobs caring for 2 kids yadda yadda. We live in the " richest" nation in the world and thousands of people has to work 3 jobs and become a zombie in order to put food on the table? What happened to FDR 2nd bill of rights, oh wait it was Never implimented. And look where we are now.

The right to a useful and remunerative job in the industries or shops or farms or mines of the nation;
The right to earn enough to provide adequate food and clothing and recreation;
The right of every farmer to raise and sell his products at a return which will give him and his family a decent living;
The right of every businessman, large and small, to trade in an atmosphere of freedom from unfair competition and domination by monopolies at home or abroad;
The right of every family to a decent home;
The right to adequate medical care and the opportunity to achieve and enjoy good health;
The right to adequate protection from the economic fears of old age, sickness, accident, and unemployment;
The right to a good education.

I guess we missed that part.

tnortonZ

Excerpt from President Roosevelt's January 11, 1944 message to the Congress of the United States on the State of the Union[1]:
“ It is our duty now to begin to lay the plans and determine the strategy for the winning of a lasting peace and the establishment of an American standard of living higher than ever before known. We cannot be content, no matter how high that general standard of living may be, if some fraction of our people—whether it be one-third or one-fifth or one-tenth—is ill-fed, ill-clothed, ill-housed, and insecure. This Republic had its beginning, and grew to its present strength, under the protection of certain inalienable political rights—among them the right of free speech, free press, free worship, trial by jury, freedom from unreasonable searches and seizures. They were our rights to life and liberty.
As our nation has grown in size and stature, however—as our industrial economy expanded—these political rights proved inadequate to assure us equality in the pursuit of happiness.
We have come to a clear realization of the fact that true individual freedom cannot exist without economic security and independence. “Necessitous men are not free men.” People who are hungry and out of a job are the stuff of which dictatorships are made. In our day these economic truths have become accepted as self-evident. We have accepted, so to speak, a second Bill of Rights under which a new basis of security and prosperity can be established for all—regardless of station, race, or creed.
Among these are:
The right to a useful and remunerative job in the industries or shops or farms or mines of the nation;
The right to earn enough to provide adequate food and clothing and recreation;
The right of every farmer to raise and sell his products at a return which will give him and his family a decent living;
The right of every businessman, large and small, to trade in an atmosphere of freedom from unfair competition and domination by monopolies at home or abroad;
The right of every family to a decent home;
The right to adequate medical care and the opportunity to achieve and enjoy good health;
The right to adequate protection from the economic fears of old age, sickness, accident, and unemployment;
The right to a good education.
All of these rights spell security. And after this war is won we must be prepared to move forward, in the implementation of these rights, to new goals of human happiness and well-being.
Americas own rightful place in the world depends in large part upon how fully these and similar rights have been carried into practice for all our citizens.
For unless there is security here at home there cannot be lasting peace in the world.

This Bill was never implimented.

Jordo!

FDR

How did this thread head in this direction?

Anyway, read "Winner Take All Politics" -- it will clarify what has happened in the US since the advent and ongoing near-deconstruction of FDR's New Deal policies.

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Endgame

I use the below in the order listed:

Mobil
Shell
Cheveron

Mobil is close to the house, Shell on the way to work....

And, I think the Z handles MUCH better than the 135i. I had high hopes for the 1 M coupe, but think BMW failed with that.... I think a suspension tweaked Z will hang with or flat out beat even the 1M coupe... I LOVE my Z and have no regrets about picking her up.

Have you seen the spoof with Hitler talking about the 1 M Coupe? HILARIOUS!!

tnortonZ

okay thanks all for the input, im gonna stick with chev and shell and check for the 93... dont have mobil in cali.. any opinions of 76?

Red__Zed

I don't think there's much difference between gasoline types, although I'm startled by your very impressive 0-60 claim for an uphill, low-revving jaunt.

cab83_750

Agree, though I buy Chevron as my first preference.

And yes, I am puzzled by your sprint --- though if real, it would be good news to all of us.

tnortonZ

its all in how you time your shifts. If you time them perfectly you can achieve what most drivers do not. I also have the speedy shifting paddle shift auto, which shifts much faster than manual, this contributed to the 5 sec. My friend has a 370z in his garage as well and reguarly gets 4.2 - 4.5 not even going over 6k RPM with his stillen intake modded paddle shift auto. . He also did an ECU upgrade and it shifts faster than stock. Its like lightening quick. ALso, the Auto gear ratio's are much better than the manual. Much lower 1st, 2nd, 3rd and 4th gear than the manual version of the Z. Faster shifting and lower gearing = better acceleration.

Gear Ratios Z (Manual)

1st 3.794
2nd 2.324
3rd 1.624
4th 1.271
5th 1.000
6th 0.794
Reverse 3.446
Final Drive 3.692

Gear Ratios Z (Automatic)

1st 4.924
2nd 3.194
3rd 2.043
4th 1.412
5th 1.000
6th 0.862
7th 0.771
Reverse 3.972
Final Drive 3.357

I dont think most people realize that 0 - 60 times and general car performance overall, has just as much to do with who is sitting behind the wheel, as it does with whats under the hood.

ducky

I wouldnt use shell if i were u guys..my friend and his wife used shell for their GTR and CUBE..after a couple of months both of their car just die out and had to be taken to nissan to empty out shell's gas..the nissan tech said there's something in shell's gas that fxxk up the engine..So all i put is Chevron in my Z..

tnortonZ

AHA. This is what I was looking for, I knew it. Thank you bro for the major info, mucho appreciated. My intuition was right. I've had a feeling that shell was iffy. Cant go wrong with chevron tho, ever.