:iagree: money is no object when someone finances your life, but when you earn the things you have, then there is a different level of respect for them all together

PS. good job on a 700 horse s2000, great car to do that to as well

I don't think that you need to pay for your own car to appreciate it necessarily, but I think that if you do pay for it, you are much more likely to.

Nono, I agree with you. but do you think the "appreciation" per say is different if you have had something given to you, or when you have had to endure long hours and car payments to get it on your own.

I am open to opinion, maybe I am thinking about it the wrong way

That mentality is not mutually exclusive to younger drivers, I will put money on the fact that the majority of people these days will not say it is their fault regardless of age. Some of that can come from the "never admit fault" statement that was drilled into many people but the other is from the general state of society where it is never a person's own fault but rather it must be the fault of someone else who could have prevented that person's original failure.


Side note: I resent many of the comments regarding young drivers: being 20 and never having an accident or any tickets of any kind, it really is frustrating to see people generalizing my age into a group of drivers that is reckless and carefree. Just like many generalizations, a few extreme cases end with a general perception of an entire group. It sucks that younger drivers have to be affected by people like the OP.

I never said it was mutually exclusive... and certainly true... I think a big part of acting like an adult is admitting fault for your mistakes. Those of higher order cognition will see through lies and respect a person who has made a mistake and admitted fault moreso than one who has made a mistake and not taken responsibility... IMO ... but you certainly make a valid point.


Please direct your attention to the following... I think many people can agree on the dichotomy you are refering to

I used to get the same comments and dirty looks from people when I was 20 and bought a 2 year old Saab 9-3... I saw it as a compliment that they figured a 20 year old was not capable of achieving something like that... I assumed (and this may not be true, but my assumption at the time) that they made such judgements because they couldnt achieve such lengths when they were 20... IMO

whats funny is, the OP had a car that apparently "people can only dream about driving in".... i had one, got rid of it, not saying its not a nice care, but its defently not a dream car. I recently seen a 2010 Viper ACR at the dealership going for $120,000...thats what im dreaming about. Anyways.... He is 17 years old, probably still in high school. Goes to school with this nice 370z, brags to his friends, shows off, all that ****. Like come on, u know damn well if u had a 370z in high school you wouldnt show off a little. So he does all this, crashes, since he has no car he has to take the school bus to school...all of his friends laugh at him.

The Z can be a dream car. It's all about personal standards. To some people, it's what they've sought after for years. For other people, even a ZR1 is below their standards. It's all relative.

some people dream in black and white, some people dream in colors, and some people dream in high definition 3d :)

ok you got me there. However, for the OP to say "this is a car that people on dream of test driving" or something like that....its not that hard. I went to the dealership on my ZX6R As i was taking my helmet off, the salesmen came over to me and asked how i was doing. I said it straight out, no bs, i want to test drive a 370z. He said "sure thing, let me get the keys and plate" and away we went...not that hard to do.

:iagree: it's not hard to get a test drive for a Z, especially since my local carmax sells them new.

Yeah, it's like, "hey, I'd like to test drive a 370Z."

"Would you also be interested in trying the new Juke?"

Dream of test driving? :bowrofl::bowrofl::bowrofl::bowrofl:

indeed. Hell, if there wasnt 20cm of snow outside, the dealership would have let me take out the Viper ACR i was looking at 2 nights ago.

This kid is deff not coming back lol

First he was like :eekdance:! Then you guys did :stirthepot:! Now he feels like :wtf2:! The whole time I was like :shakes head:! :roflpuke2: