What can we expect from 2012 Z?

Ghost · 12-20-2010, 01:17 PM

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Originally Posted by ThoriumHotdog

Apparently the new Camaro has been selling as fast as they can get to the dealership. I also doubt the Mustang sales are anywhere as low as the Z. They're selling.

If they make the Z more competitive on the street with the pony cars I bet the sales would increase. Who would complain about more power?

Yes, the domestic 'sports cars' always have been more successful than the Japanese sports car, there is no question about that. I was referring to the a little exclusive domestic cars, like the GT500. I wonder if they sell just as well, just because they offer more power.

Jeffblue · 12-20-2010, 01:21 PM

the only new Z i'd sell mine for is one that's got Twin turbos or a v8. no sense in switching cars in order to gain 30bhp.

as far as reliability. i see a fair amount of 90's 300zx TT's on the road which are like 15-20 years old.

Bleek · 12-20-2010, 01:22 PM

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Originally Posted by shadoquad

omg +rep

the only rep he'll get on these forums

shadoquad · 12-20-2010, 01:23 PM

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Originally Posted by Jeffblue

the only new Z i'd sell mine for is one that's got Hello Kitty stickers and flower pot.. no sense in switching cars in order to gain 30bhp.

as far as reliability. i see a fair amount of 90's 300zx TT's on the road which are like 15-20 years old.

I want a Z · 12-20-2010, 01:23 PM

I can't see the Z ever going to an 8, most companies are downsizing their 8's to 6's - IE the next M3 is going to be a 6

Jeffblue · 12-20-2010, 01:26 PM

lets say you needed a new motor in your car and nissan said 'zomg we are out of VQ's LOL, do you want a VK56DE or a VR38DETT, what would you take?'

Bleek · 12-20-2010, 01:30 PM

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Originally Posted by Jeffblue

lets say you needed a new motor in your car and nissan said 'zomg we are out of VQ's LOL, do you want a VK56DE or a VR38DETT, what would you take?'

the twin turbo, obviously.

elmz · 12-20-2010, 01:41 PM

Probably direct injection, which should give it a slight HP bump.

ImportConvert · 12-20-2010, 08:25 PM

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Originally Posted by ZYGOTE

The 350 actually had three different engine variations over those years, so it had quite a few changes actually.

For the 370, I would expect the addition of direct injection next year which would bump power up to around 355. I believe this has already been announced for the g37 so it's only a matter of time for the z.

They were all based on the same bore/stroke, and engine block, though, yes? Not a lot more Nissan can do with the VQ and stay emissions-legal. Is it set-up for DI? DI might be worth a bit, but certainly not enough to keep it competative.

ImportConvert · 12-20-2010, 08:27 PM

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Originally Posted by Jeffblue

lets say you needed a new motor in your car and nissan said 'zomg we are out of VQ's LOL, do you want a VK56DE or a VR38DETT, what would you take?'

I would request an LS7

Seriously, though, I would pick whichever was lighter and would keep me closest to the factory weight distribution. The Z is about handling.

sonic370 · 12-20-2010, 09:03 PM

I agree with those who say nissan won't go with a v8. it's not their history
with the car. plus it would add more weight to the car it would need a complete redesign. with the last change they went shorter and wider
which was great. imo the z will never reach 400hp it's not built that way.

with that said this car imo was not made to compete with the mustangs and camaros. two different markets. once you reach the 40,000 mark the air gets thin. anyway my point or guess is nissan will do whatever it takes to own
the market for rear wheel drive 2 seater sports cars.

point in it's class 35-40,000 370 1st
point in it's class 45- 50,00 vette 1st
only 2 seat sports car i would buy

Kirkster · 12-20-2010, 09:03 PM

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Originally Posted by ImportConvert

A new and exciting shade of gray.

Nitrouz · 12-20-2010, 09:20 PM

launch control and a black box.

2004YZFR1 · 12-20-2010, 09:26 PM

I still think it will have one more new grey color to make it really exciting.

ImportConvert · 12-20-2010, 09:32 PM

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Originally Posted by Ghost

Yes, the domestic 'sports cars' always have been more successful than the Japanese sports car, there is no question about that. I was referring to the a little exclusive domestic cars, like the GT500. I wonder if they sell just as well, just because they offer more power.

Not a fair comparison, because they also offer...more cost.

Compare the Z06 to the GT-R sales, or the GT500 sales to the M3 sales.

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12-20-2010, 01:21 PM	#47 (permalink)
Jeffblue A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: NY Age: 36 Posts: 9,192 Drives: Z32TT & 335xi Coupe Rep Power: 37	the only new Z i'd sell mine for is one that's got Twin turbos or a v8. no sense in switching cars in order to gain 30bhp. as far as reliability. i see a fair amount of 90's 300zx TT's on the road which are like 15-20 years old.

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I want a Z Base Member Join Date: May 2010 Location: MD Posts: 225 Drives: 03 Chevy Avalanche Rep Power: 15	I can't see the Z ever going to an 8, most companies are downsizing their 8's to 6's - IE the next M3 is going to be a 6

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Jeffblue A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: NY Age: 36 Posts: 9,192 Drives: Z32TT & 335xi Coupe Rep Power: 37	lets say you needed a new motor in your car and nissan said 'zomg we are out of VQ's LOL, do you want a VK56DE or a VR38DETT, what would you take?'

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elmz Track Member Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: San Diego, CA Posts: 674 Drives: 2014 Porsche Boxster Rep Power: 17	Probably direct injection, which should give it a slight HP bump.

12-20-2010, 09:03 PM	#56 (permalink)
sonic370 A True Z Fanatic Join Date: May 2010 Location: Orange Texas Posts: 1,574 Drives: 09 370Z Sports PGK Rep Power: 18	I agree with those who say nissan won't go with a v8. it's not their history with the car. plus it would add more weight to the car it would need a complete redesign. with the last change they went shorter and wider which was great. imo the z will never reach 400hp it's not built that way. with that said this car imo was not made to compete with the mustangs and camaros. two different markets. once you reach the 40,000 mark the air gets thin. anyway my point or guess is nissan will do whatever it takes to own the market for rear wheel drive 2 seater sports cars. point in it's class 35-40,000 370 1st point in it's class 45- 50,00 vette 1st only 2 seat sports car i would buy

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2004YZFR1 Enthusiast Member Join Date: Apr 2010 Location: Las Vegas Nevada Posts: 308 Drives: 09 370Z yellow,auto Rep Power: 15	I still think it will have one more new grey color to make it really exciting.