What can we expect from 2012 Z?

shadoquad · 12-20-2010, 11:34 AM

They are removing VDC from all 2012 models!

Ghost · 12-20-2010, 11:37 AM

Point of a Z is to have a simple, reliable, affordable yet exciting, enjoyable, sports car. This is why 350s and 370 have been successful.

I doubt Nissan would change their philosophy regarding the Z.

GZ3 · 12-20-2010, 11:44 AM

well, they need to, the competition has changed drastically around them....we are getting left behind

shadoquad · 12-20-2010, 11:46 AM

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Originally Posted by GZ3

well, they need to, the competition has changed drastically around them....we are getting left behind

"we're" not. I have a great and fun little sports car, no matter what other people drive.

Ghost · 12-20-2010, 11:48 AM

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Originally Posted by GZ3

well, they need to, the competition has changed drastically around them....we are getting left behind

How so?
Z is competing and performing better than cars like the Porsche Boxter, that cost nearly 50% more.

90 ST · 12-20-2010, 11:49 AM

i can see a slight bump in HP, but not much else...wheels maybe...

370zdub · 12-20-2010, 11:51 AM

^^I agree with that. I think Nissan will stay true to the Z's lineage and continue producing a car based off the simple idea of performance at a low price. I mean isn't that what the Z has always stood for?

GZ3 · 12-20-2010, 11:51 AM

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Originally Posted by shadoquad

"we're" not. I have a great and fun little sports car, no matter what other people drive.

no one said its not a fun car, but there is always room for improvement...ALWAYS...nissan does not need to get complacent with the 370

Footloose301 · 12-20-2010, 11:56 AM

Not much will change. The 350Z had minor tweaks here and there. Same as the Nissan Titan that is nearly identical to when it was released back in 2004. I was dreaming that they'd produce a 380Z and then you'd be able to bolt on a GTR turbo setup fairly easily but that won't happen. I bet you won't see anything except a wheel design change for 2012..... Possibly a new bumper. That's all.

I'd have the biggest hard on if they changed the Nismo to a twin turbo and raised sticker price just $3k.

GZ3 · 12-20-2010, 11:56 AM

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Originally Posted by Ghost

How so?
Z is competing and performing better than cars like the Porsche Boxter, that cost nearly 50% more.

well for one, muscle cars are starting to handle as well as the Z. Ive been a Z guy for years and handling is something that Z guys took great pride in, 2 power...

LuckyJinx · 12-20-2010, 12:00 PM

Yeah.. Definitely doubt any big bump in hp. If they gave it more power they'll lose sales to the GT-R. And definitely most times dealing with TT are gonna have problems. Nissan would be losing money keeping it all under warranty. Look at the muscle cars the more hp the more problems (in some cases?).

Ghost · 12-20-2010, 12:02 PM

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Originally Posted by GZ3

well for one, muscle cars are starting to handle as well as the Z. Ive been a Z guy for years and handling is something that Z guys took great pride in, 2 power...

Well muscle car have traditionally been more powerful, but they're heavier as well and don't handle nearly as good.

Also the question is, those high power and somewhat exclusive muscle cars, selling? I don't know this and I would be interested in looking at the data if someone can offer any.

Ghost · 12-20-2010, 12:04 PM

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Originally Posted by Footloose301

Not much will change. The 350Z had minor tweaks here and there. Same as the Nissan Titan that is nearly identical to when it was released back in 2004. I was dreaming that they'd produce a 380Z and then you'd be able to bolt on a GTR turbo setup fairly easily but that won't happen. I bet you won't see anything except a wheel design change for 2012..... Possibly a new bumper. That's all.

I'd have the biggest hard on if they changed the Nismo to a twin turbo and raised sticker price just $3k.

If this happens, you can expect the price tag to jump at least $10,000.

ThoriumHotdog · 12-20-2010, 12:13 PM

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Originally Posted by Ghost

Well muscle car have traditionally been more powerful, but they're heavier as well and don't handle nearly as good.

Also the question is, those high power and somewhat exclusive muscle cars, selling? I don't know this and I would be interested in looking at the data if someone can offer any.

Apparently the new Camaro has been selling as fast as they can get to the dealership. I also doubt the Mustang sales are anywhere as low as the Z. They're selling.

If they make the Z more competitive on the street with the pony cars I bet the sales would increase. Who would complain about more power?

shadoquad · 12-20-2010, 12:16 PM

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Originally Posted by ThoriumHotdog

Apparently the new Camaro has been selling as fast as they can get to the dealership. I also doubt the Mustang sales are anywhere as low as the Z. They're selling.

If they make the Z more competitive on the street with the pony cars I bet the sales would increase. Who would complain about more power?

Actually, I heard Camaro sales slowed down when the new Stang came out. Anyone have the sales figs?

Even then, the v6 version of both of those cars outsell the muscly v8s

12-20-2010, 11:37 AM	#32 (permalink)
Ghost Base Member Join Date: Oct 2010 Location: oH Posts: 95 Drives: Z34 Rep Power: 14	Point of a Z is to have a simple, reliable, affordable yet exciting, enjoyable, sports car. This is why 350s and 370 have been successful. I doubt Nissan would change their philosophy regarding the Z. __________________

12-20-2010, 11:44 AM	#33 (permalink)
GZ3 A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: SATX Posts: 3,296 Drives: Z Rep Power: 21	well, they need to, the competition has changed drastically around them....we are getting left behind __________________ 09 GT-R 12' 370Z 7AT HANDED DOWN 12'+13' 5.0 SOLD

12-20-2010, 11:51 AM	#37 (permalink)
370zdub Track Member Join Date: Jun 2009 Location: UT Posts: 628 Drives: 09 370z 6mt,10 Ford Rep Power: 17	^^I agree with that. I think Nissan will stay true to the Z's lineage and continue producing a car based off the simple idea of performance at a low price. I mean isn't that what the Z has always stood for? __________________ 2010 Ford 6.4L Power Stroke Diesel: 588whp/1082wtrq 2007 Dodge 6.7L Cummins Diesel: 788whp/1405wtrq, runs 12's @ 7400lbs, Still miss my 370z!

12-20-2010, 11:56 AM	#39 (permalink)
Footloose301 A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Apr 2010 Location: Naples, FL Posts: 2,659 Drives: 40th Rep Power: 21	Not much will change. The 350Z had minor tweaks here and there. Same as the Nissan Titan that is nearly identical to when it was released back in 2004. I was dreaming that they'd produce a 380Z and then you'd be able to bolt on a GTR turbo setup fairly easily but that won't happen. I bet you won't see anything except a wheel design change for 2012..... Possibly a new bumper. That's all. I'd have the biggest hard on if they changed the Nismo to a twin turbo and raised sticker price just $3k. __________________ 2010 40th Anniversary 370Z Last edited by Footloose301; 12-20-2010 at 11:59 AM.

12-20-2010, 12:00 PM	#41 (permalink)
LuckyJinx Enthusiast Member Join Date: Sep 2010 Location: Lexington, SC Posts: 465 Drives: 09 Nissan 370z Nismo Rep Power: 14	Yeah.. Definitely doubt any big bump in hp. If they gave it more power they'll lose sales to the GT-R. And definitely most times dealing with TT are gonna have problems. Nissan would be losing money keeping it all under warranty. Look at the muscle cars the more hp the more problems (in some cases?). __________________

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