What can we expect from 2012 Z?

Blue370tt

This is NEVER going to happen. Just like chevy is never going to make the camaro faster than the corvette, nissan will NEVER make the 370z faster than the GTR......OR EVEN CLOSE IN SPEED!

shadoquad

But isn't the 2012 GTR getting a power bump? Maybe they'll have a Z power bump to go in line with it.

I doubt they'll slap on an extra two cylinders, though.

Mt Tam I am

I like the twin turbo addition.
Will Nissan keep the 370Z in the line up at all, when they are not selling well? In the current economic climate I see that sports cars might once again be endangered. I hope I am wrong.

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Lug

They need to do a detuned 3.8 liter, mass produced twin turbo based of of the GT-R's engine. They already have the research costs covered and by dropping the HP a bit, they can loosen up tolerances enough were "hand built" isn't necessary. Will it happen by 2012? I doubt it. Maybe 2014 if they do it at all.

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theDreamer

Are we comparing the LS7 here?
Because the GT-R (R35) gets 15/21 and the LS7 gets 15/23 I believe, wow.

Also, the weight factor is in the XX difference which is very minor considering the GT-R is loaded with extra piping for its TT kit. Throw in some extra money on using lighter material and the VR38 is perfect.

On the topic of the 2012 370z, I expect no real changes. I think Nissan is trying to figure out what to do with the car. Does it want to make the first sub 40k electric sports car? Do they want to go all out, since the GT-R just got a nice power bump it gives room for the Z to have closer to 350-400HP from factory now.

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ImportConvert

Would be neat if they made a 375bhp or so Z. I don't think it will happen, though. At least, not with the VQ.

The V8 really is where it's at. There are a lot of great engines, but the old cam-in-block V8 continues to be near or on the top of the heap when it comes to power/weight ratio.

shadoquad

But if you look at the trends recently, IC, a lot of companies are going with turbos, even BMW. Mostly because they can inflate performance numbers and mpg's at the same time. So, if anything, I could see Nissan going that way with the VQ. Don't know if they can get 375-400 out of it.

theDreamer

Sorry, 15/24, so really basically the same minus highway.
VR38DETT with engine/oils plus cats weight 608lbs (VR38DETT engine weight | 2009 Nissan GT-R) Compared to a LS7 which is 458 with just the engine (no oils, etc.) I would say it is pretty close.

Power/weight is out the window now though. It is about fuel efficiency & power.
Power/weight is being left for the 100k plus cars only where anything below that needs to meet a higher MPG but still provide X amount of power.

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ImportConvert

Right you are. I could have sworn the 2006's were 16/25, but then, the heavier trans, etc. in the new Z06 would probably suck another mpg out of the equation even if that were the case.

Factor in 10.5qts of oil for the LS7, and it probably closes the gap.

Either way, you are right. The EPA/OPEC is calling the shots and a lot of people (BMW included) ARE! going to FI. FI technology has advanged greatly. I am sure a factory FI VQ would do the job (400bhp), but why would Nissan do that to an old platform? No, if they do that, it will be on a new platform I would think.

I still prefer a V8 to an FI engine. Less junk to break, and it does just as well. Simpler is better if the results are the same. All that complicated stuff is fun to brag about until it sharts the bed and you have to fix it.

shadoquad

I'm a fan of NA over FI, too, for the most part, for the same reason.

ZYGOTE

The 350 actually had three different engine variations over those years, so it had quite a few changes actually.

For the 370, I would expect the addition of direct injection next year which would bump power up to around 355. I believe this has already been announced for the g37 so it's only a matter of time for the z.

370fan

Well.... The 370 has a VQ37. The Frontiers have a VQ40..... 4.0L in the same configuration.

GZ3

when i was at the Nissan dealer this weekend, this guy was saying that in 2012 the front bumper is gonna be slightly modified, nissan sport brakes will standard and brembos will be the upgrade, and the HP rating was gonna be bumped to 350hp in the way of intake manifold modification...this makes allot of sense considering the 350z progression...just rumors though,

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3SeventyZ

I would expect some minor exterior styling changes and maybe a slight bump in HP.

Nothing too drastic tho..

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Ghost

Perhaps a dual clutch gearbox?


Joking. I like my shifter

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