What can we expect from 2012 Z?

chuckd05 · 05-11-2011, 01:47 AM

I dont know if it was mentioned yet but the IPL Infiniti G37s come with 348hp... that will prob be the only motor upgrade to the 370 along with there periodic color changes ... not even sure if they have DI on the IPL G37, but thats prob it for upgrades to the 370z's motor...

Lemers · 05-11-2011, 09:06 PM

Maybe a "true" NISMO with a performance increase over the base Z

chii370 · 12-05-2011, 11:57 PM

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Originally Posted by Lemers

Maybe a "true" NISMO with a performance increase over the base Z

my stock nismo ran a 12.98 quarter..... thats as good as most base Z's with bolt ons. but i just think it looks better :P so who cares.

theDreamer · 12-06-2011, 08:58 AM

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Originally Posted by chii370

my stock nismo ran a 12.98 quarter..... thats as good as most base Z's with bolt ons. but i just think it looks better :P so who cares.

Congrats you are now tied with base model Z bone stock: official 1/4 mile track times

Red__Zed · 12-06-2011, 09:01 AM

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Originally Posted by theDreamer

Congrats you are now tied with base model Z bone stock: official 1/4 mile track times

Pwnt

Sibze · 12-06-2011, 09:24 AM

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Originally Posted by Red__Zed

Pwnt

Trollol

b1adesofcha0s · 12-06-2011, 10:03 AM

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Originally Posted by theDreamer

Congrats you are now tied with base model Z bone stock: official 1/4 mile track times

You should post your time slip in the 1/4 mile thread

Davey · 05-14-2011, 09:26 AM

What can we expect?

Just enough to make me wish I'd held out for another year.

Footloose301 · 12-06-2011, 05:54 AM

^^Wrong section.... But just an FYI...

Also, a base Z with stock bolts ons usually has more power than your stock Nismo anyways... Besides aesthetics and obvious suspension differences, your Nismo only has 18hp more due to an exhaust and a tune..... Any base Z with exhuast and a tune would have the same power (~approx). Then if this base Z were to add test pipes and intake it would have more power.....

You did a superb job running a 12.98 though.

theDreamer · 12-06-2011, 09:15 AM

And what Lemers was pointing out I think was he is hoping to see a reduced Nismo RC edition basically. Better seats over base, stitch welded chassis, maybe some weight reduction and better suspension balance. The 370z Nismo is basically just a body kit with different suspension components, unlike the 350z Nismo which had all of the above (minus the seats).

chuckd05 · 12-07-2011, 10:41 AM

Haha he is 6mt though so the 12.98 is a little harder.

I believe that's that quickest 6mt stock pass though

chii370 · 12-09-2011, 01:51 AM

I didn't take a pic of it or I would, they sat crumPled on the passenger seat until I cleaned the car out. And no, saying the nismo is just a aerokits wrong, it's an ongoing flamewar for base model owners to justify saving money and nismo owners to justify spending it. Aero kit, wider lighter rims front and back, nismo breaks, better suspension, chassis, interior embroidery, different tires "same as sport" different exhaust, engine tune, and above all exclusivity of owning a much more limited production car. If u don't see all that being worth a few thousand more then I'm sorry you bought a base and missed out, and in some cases the damn touring/sport can cost just as much if not more! And guess what? I have a gps in the nismo..... So tell me why?

And now I sit back and let the justification wars begin. I say, be happy with what ya got, to each his own bro.

chii370 · 12-09-2011, 02:01 AM

And also I need to mention something I didn't say before, because I had forgoten about WHEN I had done it. But I was running 305 35 19 potenza s-04 pole positions in the rear, so not stock tires, and had k&n stock style air filters, for however much difference that would make. Other then that the cars factory.

ImportConvert · 12-09-2011, 06:51 AM

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Originally Posted by chii370

I didn't take a pic of it or I would, they sat crumPled on the passenger seat until I cleaned the car out. And no, saying the nismo is just a aerokits wrong, it's an ongoing flamewar for base model owners to justify saving money and nismo owners to justify spending it. Aero kit, wider lighter rims front and back, nismo breaks, better suspension, chassis, interior embroidery, different tires "same as sport" different exhaust, engine tune, and above all exclusivity of owning a much more limited production car. If u don't see all that being worth a few thousand more then I'm sorry you bought a base and missed out, and in some cases the damn touring/sport can cost just as much if not more! And guess what? I have a gps in the nismo..... So tell me why?

And now I sit back and let the justification wars begin. I say, be happy with what ya got, to each his own bro.

I'm not a z owner yet, but I'm not buying a nismo. Why? Because in no objective test has it put down any better numbers in any performance category that are statistically significant. Sure, it may pull .01g more in one skidpad test, but it doesn't in all of them, etc.

Exclusivity and looks are all I will give you.

Further...brakes? I thought they were identical to sport brakes except for paint. Wrong?

I have no agenda to justify my purchase of a non nismo, BTW. I currently drive what's in my Sig, and am trading it in on a z, so its not someone with a. Base care making argument based on emotion.

theDreamer · 12-09-2011, 08:58 AM

IC, you are correct they are the same brakes, same interior (minus red stitching), and same chassis and frame.
The 'extras' are aero, which adds more weight, different wheels & tires, different dampers and springs, and exhaust/tune. Honestly you can get all of that for cheaper than the price of the Nismo which is why so many do.

Chii, no one is putting down your purchase or the Nismo, we are demonstrating that the 'value' of the upgrade is not worth the investment. And I like the Nismo kit so much I am putting it on my car, just with better suspension, exhaust, tune, interior.

Also, you added filters plus tires throwing out your stock run and putting you in the modded class.

05-11-2011, 01:47 AM	#1 (permalink)
chuckd05 A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Oct 2009 Location: NY Posts: 2,391 Drives: No longer a Z Rep Power: 20	I dont know if it was mentioned yet but the IPL Infiniti G37s come with 348hp... that will prob be the only motor upgrade to the 370 along with there periodic color changes ... not even sure if they have DI on the IPL G37, but thats prob it for upgrades to the 370z's motor... __________________ 09 370Z 6M PW - FBO Best 1/4 mile = 12.926 @ 109 SOLD -- 08 BMW 135i - FBO 12.1@120mph SOLD -- white 09 e92 335 Coupe Mtech - 11.9 @ 119 :-) Last edited by chuckd05; 05-11-2011 at 01:57 AM.

05-11-2011, 09:06 PM	#2 (permalink)
Lemers A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Mar 2010 Location: Izmir, Turkey Posts: 15,371 Drives: 2012 Traverse LTZ Rep Power: 53	Maybe a "true" NISMO with a performance increase over the base Z __________________ 2010 Black Cherry Touring/Sport/Nav Now - 2012 Travese LTZ until I leave for Turkey

12-06-2011, 05:54 AM	#9 (permalink)
Footloose301 A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Apr 2010 Location: Naples, FL Posts: 2,659 Drives: 40th Rep Power: 22	^^Wrong section.... But just an FYI... Also, a base Z with stock bolts ons usually has more power than your stock Nismo anyways... Besides aesthetics and obvious suspension differences, your Nismo only has 18hp more due to an exhaust and a tune..... Any base Z with exhuast and a tune would have the same power (~approx). Then if this base Z were to add test pipes and intake it would have more power..... You did a superb job running a 12.98 though. __________________ 2010 40th Anniversary 370Z

12-06-2011, 09:15 AM	#10 (permalink)
theDreamer A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: Texas Posts: 30,879 Drives: 370z Rep Power: 4211	And what Lemers was pointing out I think was he is hoping to see a reduced Nismo RC edition basically. Better seats over base, stitch welded chassis, maybe some weight reduction and better suspension balance. The 370z Nismo is basically just a body kit with different suspension components, unlike the 350z Nismo which had all of the above (minus the seats). __________________ theDreamer's Z // Fast Intentions // Uprev // GTM // HKS // TEIN theDreamer's Silvia // URAS // GREDDY Houston Zs // Facebook // Twitter // Instagram

12-07-2011, 10:41 AM	#11 (permalink)
chuckd05 A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Oct 2009 Location: NY Posts: 2,391 Drives: No longer a Z Rep Power: 20	Haha he is 6mt though so the 12.98 is a little harder. I believe that's that quickest 6mt stock pass though __________________ 09 370Z 6M PW - FBO Best 1/4 mile = 12.926 @ 109 SOLD -- 08 BMW 135i - FBO 12.1@120mph SOLD -- white 09 e92 335 Coupe Mtech - 11.9 @ 119 :-)

05-14-2011, 09:26 AM	#8 (permalink)
Davey A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Apr 2011 Location: Indiana Posts: 3,766 Drives: '15 NISMO 6MT Rep Power: 117172	What can we expect? Just enough to make me wish I'd held out for another year.

12-09-2011, 01:51 AM	#12 (permalink)
chii370 Track Member Join Date: Jul 2010 Location: . Posts: 642 Drives: . Rep Power: 16	I didn't take a pic of it or I would, they sat crumPled on the passenger seat until I cleaned the car out. And no, saying the nismo is just a aerokits wrong, it's an ongoing flamewar for base model owners to justify saving money and nismo owners to justify spending it. Aero kit, wider lighter rims front and back, nismo breaks, better suspension, chassis, interior embroidery, different tires "same as sport" different exhaust, engine tune, and above all exclusivity of owning a much more limited production car. If u don't see all that being worth a few thousand more then I'm sorry you bought a base and missed out, and in some cases the damn touring/sport can cost just as much if not more! And guess what? I have a gps in the nismo..... So tell me why? And now I sit back and let the justification wars begin. I say, be happy with what ya got, to each his own bro.

12-09-2011, 02:01 AM	#13 (permalink)
chii370 Track Member Join Date: Jul 2010 Location: . Posts: 642 Drives: . Rep Power: 16	And also I need to mention something I didn't say before, because I had forgoten about WHEN I had done it. But I was running 305 35 19 potenza s-04 pole positions in the rear, so not stock tires, and had k&n stock style air filters, for however much difference that would make. Other then that the cars factory.

12-09-2011, 08:58 AM	#15 (permalink)
theDreamer A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: Texas Posts: 30,879 Drives: 370z Rep Power: 4211	IC, you are correct they are the same brakes, same interior (minus red stitching), and same chassis and frame. The 'extras' are aero, which adds more weight, different wheels & tires, different dampers and springs, and exhaust/tune. Honestly you can get all of that for cheaper than the price of the Nismo which is why so many do. Chii, no one is putting down your purchase or the Nismo, we are demonstrating that the 'value' of the upgrade is not worth the investment. And I like the Nismo kit so much I am putting it on my car, just with better suspension, exhaust, tune, interior. Also, you added filters plus tires throwing out your stock run and putting you in the modded class. __________________ theDreamer's Z // Fast Intentions // Uprev // GTM // HKS // TEIN theDreamer's Silvia // URAS // GREDDY Houston Zs // Facebook // Twitter // Instagram Last edited by theDreamer; 12-09-2011 at 09:03 AM.

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