370z hard to drive?

JayYoon · 12-17-2010, 05:44 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Vegitto-kun

It is just you sucking at driving a MT

I never had problems with MT cars, I stalled about 10 times in my life and 9 of them were on my first driving lesson and once when my foot slipped cuz of ice and slammed the clutch pedal up.

Yes I know that my Z is a AT if I could I would of gotten a MT but these days I don't mind it.

or maybe I am just getting corrupted.

the MT cars I have driven

renault clio 1.6 diesel
renault megane coupe 2009 1.9 diesel
renault megane CC 2.0 petrol
Renault master 3.2(not sure that is what my father always said) diesel
renault laguna 2.0 diesel
peugeot expert 2.0 diesel
BMW 320 diesel
BMW 325 petrol
Lotus elise
370Z roadster MT some laps on francorchamps and test drive

I OWNED the clio and megane coupe.

megane CC and laguna are my parents cars when the GT-R is in the garage for the winter

The master and peugeot are work cars

rest was borrowing from friends

I still find it funny that I went from a 1.9 4 cilinder diesel to a 3.7 V6 petrol

look it this guy? lol all proud of himself... haha

Quote:

Originally Posted by shadoquad

Depends on the situation.

Daily driving, maybe around 3000-3500.

Fun driving, 6-7k

Downshifting on the highway to pass with style (I don't know, but it's f*cking fun).

To reach supersaiyan, I recommend shifting at OVER 9000!

HAHAHA!!! i love this guy!!! supersaiyan!!! hahaha over 9000!!!

Dwight Frye · 12-17-2010, 06:35 PM

All cars are different. Mine felt funny for about the first couple dozen shifts that I made and then I quickly adapted to it and never have had an issue.
I've been driving MT's since 1968 and learned the individual characteristics of each car in a matter of a few miles. Turn off your phone and stereo and listen to your car. Get in touch with it, feel how the different components interact and if you have at least normal hand/leg coordination it won't be a problem.
My only beef is the delay in the rev's dropping between 1st and 2nd caused by the heavy flywheel inertia. I can't shift as quickly as I'd like but it's not a big deal.

LuckyJinx · 12-17-2010, 06:48 PM

Since sold the 350 I've never driven a z as a test drive. Just bought it, the dealer was surprised that I didn't stall it.

mick · 12-17-2010, 06:53 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by LuckyJinx

Since sold the 350 I've never driven a z as a test drive. Just bought it, the dealer was surprised that I didn't stall it.

when i took delivery of the car, the sales man asked me if i had ever driven a lowered car. I said no and he told me to always drive sideway when going in/out of a driveway so that the front spoiler would not get damaged

LuckyJinx · 12-17-2010, 06:59 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mick

when i took delivery of the car, the sales man asked me if i had ever driven a lowered car. I said no and he told me to always drive sideway when going in/out of a driveway so that the front spoiler would not get damaged

Yeah, o learned the hard way. Drove a gallardo up my driveway straight up.. lol

mick · 12-17-2010, 07:03 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by LuckyJinx

Yeah, o learned the hard way. Drove a gallardo up my driveway straight up.. lol

ouch!!! if i had done that -- on a gallardo, the pain would last for many months. I hope you got over it quicker

The BlueMax · 12-18-2010, 12:30 AM

My 97 WS6 engages so much easyer and smooth the torque and Tremic 6 speed are superior to my 370 which requires finese and I find my self going into 3rd gear from 1st in the morning. I live in a cultisac that turns and decends and its always smooth.

Vegitto-kun · 12-18-2010, 09:27 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by JayYoon

look it this guy? lol all proud of himself... haha

and still a better MT driver than you it seems

ImportConvert · 12-18-2010, 09:38 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by The BlueMax

My 97 WS6 engages so much easyer and smooth the torque and Tremic 6 speed are superior to my 370 which requires finese and I find my self going into 3rd gear from 1st in the morning. I live in a cultisac that turns and decends and its always smooth.

That's because the T56 is an awesome transmission (Aston Martin, Viper, Corvette, Mangusta, etc.), and the LT1 produced peak torque in the 2400rpm range.

kenchan · 12-18-2010, 11:26 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Vegitto-kun

and still a better MT driver than you it seems

nice

ThoriumHotdog · 12-18-2010, 12:26 PM

Worst clutch car I ever drove.. Saturn Ion. I hated that thing. It never felt connected to the road. It felt like a terrible MadCatz video game controller.

VaGntlmn · 12-18-2010, 01:16 PM

My cars been in the shop for a week.
All that means is that I haven't driven a clutch for a week so I was a little out of practice.
Got the car back, and I was doing terrible. I was giving myself a headache.
Then I realized the SRT wasn't on.
Turned it on, and I was happy.

When I got the car 6 months ago I didn't like the idea of the SRT.
I'm too old school and like the "do it yourself" downshifting.
But after I tried it for a while, I can't do without it.
That's pathetic, but true.

butdamnbrian · 12-18-2010, 07:45 PM

i do think the clutch/transmission is difficult in this car.

i've never had issues matching revs or stalling, but the damn transmission rattles and shakes on clutch-in in first and second below 3000 rpms. all the time. regardless of smoothness or clutch depression speed.

it conditions a driver to always shift out of first and second at well above 3k rpms, but that's not always possible in traffic, and honestly.. should a driver have to do that? if you're in traffic and have to let off the gas in first or second and clutch in quickly, there are rattles and shakes under the car that have nothing to do with the quality of your clutch-work. sometimes those situations just happen in traffic. it's the one huge pet peeve i have about the z.

i understand this is endemic to 370z transmissions and it's a trade-off i'm happy to make in exchange for the serious performance of the car. but.. does it make the z harder to drive? i think so, definitely.

BrianMSmith · 12-18-2010, 10:07 PM

I had a Camaro SS with much more torque and power than a Z, much lower gearing than stock, and it was much easier to drive smooth.

The Z has a very tricky clutch to run smooth. Whereas the old SS had a good inch of pedal feel between off and on, the Z seems to have about 1 centimeter. And because the car has a light flywheel, it's easy to stall it. In the Camaro, you could just let out the clutch at idle and it would walk off smoothly. The Z needs some revs, but it's hard to get off smooth and not feel like you're doing a jack rabbit getaway. Keep practicing.

wolf370z · 12-19-2010, 12:44 AM

The 370z? Difficult to drive? All the 370z reviews I've watched, the test drivers were all pretty convinced that the car is extremely easy to drive compared to other sports cars.

If the 370z was your first manual maybe I could understand your frustration but if you've driven a manual before the learning curve for the 370z is about the same. It just takes maybe 10-15 minutes to get used to the feel and then you're solid from there.

12-17-2010, 06:48 PM	#78 (permalink)
LuckyJinx Enthusiast Member Join Date: Sep 2010 Location: Lexington, SC Posts: 465 Drives: 09 Nissan 370z Nismo Rep Power: 15	Since sold the 350 I've never driven a z as a test drive. Just bought it, the dealer was surprised that I didn't stall it. __________________

12-18-2010, 12:30 AM	#82 (permalink)
The BlueMax Enthusiast Member Join Date: Jan 2010 Location: Louisville Posts: 337 Drives: 09 370/97 T/A 01 ZRX Rep Power: 25	My 97 WS6 engages so much easyer and smooth the torque and Tremic 6 speed are superior to my 370 which requires finese and I find my self going into 3rd gear from 1st in the morning. I live in a cultisac that turns and decends and its always smooth. __________________ The Blue Max

12-18-2010, 01:16 PM	#87 (permalink)
VaGntlmn Enthusiast Member Join Date: May 2010 Location: Centreville, Va Age: 64 Posts: 378 Drives: '10 Tour/Sport, 6MT Rep Power: 15	My cars been in the shop for a week. All that means is that I haven't driven a clutch for a week so I was a little out of practice. Got the car back, and I was doing terrible. I was giving myself a headache. Then I realized the SRT wasn't on. Turned it on, and I was happy. When I got the car 6 months ago I didn't like the idea of the SRT. I'm too old school and like the "do it yourself" downshifting. But after I tried it for a while, I can't do without it. That's pathetic, but true. __________________ Bill 2010 370z; Tour/Sport; 6mt; BlackCherry/Grey; 318 rwhp; 265 lbs rwtq. To view a list of my mods, click here; To view a photo journal of the mods, click here.

12-19-2010, 12:44 AM	#90 (permalink)
wolf370z Base Member Join Date: Jan 2010 Location: United States Posts: 230 Drives: 09 370z red m6 Rep Power: 15	The 370z? Difficult to drive? All the 370z reviews I've watched, the test drivers were all pretty convinced that the car is extremely easy to drive compared to other sports cars. If the 370z was your first manual maybe I could understand your frustration but if you've driven a manual before the learning curve for the 370z is about the same. It just takes maybe 10-15 minutes to get used to the feel and then you're solid from there. __________________ Good drivers just drive.

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12-17-2010, 06:35 PM	#77 (permalink)
Dwight Frye Enthusiast Member Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: Occupied California Posts: 423 Drives: '09 Tour/Sport/6MT Rep Power: 16	All cars are different. Mine felt funny for about the first couple dozen shifts that I made and then I quickly adapted to it and never have had an issue. I've been driving MT's since 1968 and learned the individual characteristics of each car in a matter of a few miles. Turn off your phone and stereo and listen to your car. Get in touch with it, feel how the different components interact and if you have at least normal hand/leg coordination it won't be a problem. My only beef is the delay in the rev's dropping between 1st and 2nd caused by the heavy flywheel inertia. I can't shift as quickly as I'd like but it's not a big deal.

12-18-2010, 12:26 PM	#86 (permalink)
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butdamnbrian Enthusiast Member Join Date: Jul 2010 Location: bay area, ca Posts: 254 Drives: the ladies wild Rep Power: 15	i do think the clutch/transmission is difficult in this car. i've never had issues matching revs or stalling, but the damn transmission rattles and shakes on clutch-in in first and second below 3000 rpms. all the time. regardless of smoothness or clutch depression speed. it conditions a driver to always shift out of first and second at well above 3k rpms, but that's not always possible in traffic, and honestly.. should a driver have to do that? if you're in traffic and have to let off the gas in first or second and clutch in quickly, there are rattles and shakes under the car that have nothing to do with the quality of your clutch-work. sometimes those situations just happen in traffic. it's the one huge pet peeve i have about the z. i understand this is endemic to 370z transmissions and it's a trade-off i'm happy to make in exchange for the serious performance of the car. but.. does it make the z harder to drive? i think so, definitely.

12-18-2010, 10:07 PM	#89 (permalink)
BrianMSmith Enthusiast Member Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: secret Posts: 267 Drives: 370Z, Ducati 748S Rep Power: 15	I had a Camaro SS with much more torque and power than a Z, much lower gearing than stock, and it was much easier to drive smooth. The Z has a very tricky clutch to run smooth. Whereas the old SS had a good inch of pedal feel between off and on, the Z seems to have about 1 centimeter. And because the car has a light flywheel, it's easy to stall it. In the Camaro, you could just let out the clutch at idle and it would walk off smoothly. The Z needs some revs, but it's hard to get off smooth and not feel like you're doing a jack rabbit getaway. Keep practicing.