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Old 12-17-2010, 04:42 PM   #151 (permalink)
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wat is this, some pissing contest? i was youngestest and crawled out from my parent's house before i was even 1.
Shake your d$cks! This pissing contest is over
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wat is this, some pissing contest? i was youngestest and crawled out from my parent's house before i was even 1.
Isn't that what a car forum is for...discussing car stuff and tooting our own horns?
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Dude, I hope you're not one of those guys who's in college and think that you're going to make bank the second you get your degree. Engineering and the dot com boom have nothing to do with eachother unless you're a network engineer.

I graduated with a mechanical engineering degree in 2000 and got my first job for $43,500. Believe it or not, I was one of the better paid graduates other than a couple guys at the top of the class who got super sweet gigs. Engineering tends to be a really conservative field and they tend to not throw money at people.

i am not one of those guys in college, however i am a graduate who's been very grateful for what i've accomplished to be where i am today. while i was in college, i never thought i'd graduate and make bank. in fact, i thought quite the opposite, figuring id fall into the same trap that millions of others have, unemployment. however, hard work and networking gets you places...

anyway in reference to the engineering, excuse me, ive been too caught up in work lately. when i refer to an engineer i think software engineer, or hell even hardware engineer...and back in 1995, those guys were raking in the $$$. you had a few job offers waiting upon graduation, and could actually negotiate a salary, definitely not something thats common, if at all even around in today's job market.
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I guess I just completely missed the point of the thread.

$43,500 right after graduating? That's pretty awesome.
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I live at home. I don't plan on moving out until I'm out of grad school.

If you have the opportunity, it just makes financial sense to stay at home. Even my buddies who have solid, career jobs are staying at home as long as they can. Why risk moving out when the economy is bad?

I'd rather live at home until I know I can safely move out financially. I'm not willing to take a risk with my money, health or happiness just to prove something to society.

edit: Though, if you are a fierce, independent sort of person, I completely understand and get it.
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Re-thinking moving to the states... making 23 an hour as an undergraduate at the university and my contract doubles next April as a grad student (Canada).

Maybe there is just more demand in my field than in engineering? I dunno.
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I live at home. I don't plan on moving out until I'm out of grad school.

If you have the opportunity, it just makes financial sense to stay at home. Even my buddies who have solid, career jobs are staying at home as long as they can. Why risk moving out when the economy is bad?

I'd rather live at home until I know I can safely move out financially. I'm not willing to take a risk with my money, health or happiness just to prove something to society.

edit: Though, if you are a fierce, independent sort of person, I completely understand and get it.

Nice save at the end there, playin it politically correct lol
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Re-thinking moving to the states... making 23 an hour as an undergraduate at the university and my contract doubles next April as a grad student (Canada).

Maybe there is just more demand in my field than in engineering? I dunno.
Yeah, I wouldn't leave if I was getting paid that much! I've been out of college for a year now and am still making $10k less than I wanted to my first year out. At least my job is going to look great on my resume for my next employer!
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I live at home. I don't plan on moving out until I'm out of grad school.

If you have the opportunity, it just makes financial sense to stay at home. Even my buddies who have solid, career jobs are staying at home as long as they can. Why risk moving out when the economy is bad?

I'd rather live at home until I know I can safely move out financially. I'm not willing to take a risk with my money, health or happiness just to prove something to society.

edit: Though, if you are a fierce, independent sort of person, I completely understand and get it.
What about your parent's point of view? Wouldn't it be nice to have the home to themselves again? They have a life, too. All you have posted seems to focus on the child's viewpoint, when in fact it is the parent calling the shots (their roof).
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fixed again.

you really need to get out of your parent's house and live on your own to consider youself an adult. unless you're taking care of your ill parents or something in return. from wat you've posted your dad rocks a GT-R and mom probably drives around a nice benz or something, right?

kids say they pay for their own cars but adults pay mortgages and utilities, raise kids, and yet pay for their cars. big difference.
both parents use the GT-R though my mom drives it ALOT more than my dad .

our other cars that we use once in a while is a megane CC and a laguna
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I'm not bitching and I'm not talking about the price of the car. I'm just saying that based on my experiences, giving a car with the performance of a 370Z to a high school student is a bad idea.

I can certainly agree with you that I was pretty reckless as a kid. When I was in college, I totaled my friend's '92 MR2 Turbo by driving rally-style down an unknown gravel road and sliding off into the woods. I may have been more reckless than most, but I don't think my experiences were all that dissimilar to other kids my age. Every person I knew who had a fast car drove at least somewhat like a maniac.

I agree with you that losing control of cars is the best way to learn about driving them fast, but I don't think I'd want my own kid doing that every day on public roads. I'd rather buy the kid something cheap like an old F-body and let him learn that kind of stuff in a controlled environment like an autocross.

Good post. I agree with you 100%.

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both parents use the GT-R though my mom drives it ALOT more than my dad .

our other cars that we use once in a while is a megane CC and a laguna
Pride of ownership is a big deal to some, less to others. I have to actually be the only person listed on the loan, or hold the title, to consider something "mine". Others are content to just have access to something. I have long been this way, preferrring to even buy something identical to that which my father has simply because I "want my own". Nothing wrong with either way, just a different mentality.
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i am not one of those guys in college, however i am a graduate who's been very grateful for what i've accomplished to be where i am today. while i was in college, i never thought i'd graduate and make bank. in fact, i thought quite the opposite, figuring id fall into the same trap that millions of others have, unemployment. however, hard work and networking gets you places...

anyway in reference to the engineering, excuse me, ive been too caught up in work lately. when i refer to an engineer i think software engineer, or hell even hardware engineer...and back in 1995, those guys were raking in the $$$. you had a few job offers waiting upon graduation, and could actually negotiate a salary, definitely not something thats common, if at all even around in today's job market.

Indeed. My dad has his degree in EE (electrical engineering) and he is a software developer and has been since he came out of college.

I myself dropped out of college to start working full time and I am glad I did. In my Industry (linux system administration) experience is more important than a degree. Now I have After working for the same company for 4+ years I now get 25 days per year of vacation time (plus another 10 paid sick days). I am 25 years old, own my own home, own a 370z and make over 70k/year. The company I work for has grown to almost double its size since I started and has shown extreme growth over the recession. I definitely count my blessings.

I think a having a college education is important but it certainly not gonna help in all the industries that you can work in. I wanted a degree so I would have a fall back in case I didn't get into the industry I wanted but in the end I think I am glad I went with my decision to drop out when I did. With the experience I have now I don't think it would be to hard for me to find another job. Of course I love the company I work for and I doubt they would go under considering how well they have done through the recession so I highly see myself working anywhere else in the next 5 years.
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No worries. I did the same when I graduated college in August 2009. I lived with them until I bought my house in April. I didn't mind living with my patents at all. Nice house, my own wing of the house, free food, no rent. Now my life revolves around bills.
I did the exact same thing. I got a long great with my dad, we have very similar interests so while even being able to buy tons of computer equipment, take vacations to Japan (and even live there while working remotely for a while which was expensive) I was still able to save quite a bit of money in the first few years working full time and living with my dad. Before that I was going to college so it only made sense to live there while I was doing that

I only recently moved out (I am 25) when I bought my own house and very shortly after that bought a 370Z. Had I not bought the house I could have paid cash for the 370Z but I definitely put higher precedence on getting the house before the Z.
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What about your parent's point of view? Wouldn't it be nice to have the home to themselves again? They have a life, too. All you have posted seems to focus on the child's viewpoint, when in fact it is the parent calling the shots (their roof).
My parents offered. :V

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I myself dropped out of college to start working full time and I am glad I did. In my Industry (linux system administration) experience is more important than a degree. Now I have After working for the same company for 4+ years I now get 25 days per year of vacation time (plus another 10 paid sick days). I am 25 years old, own my own home, own a 370z and make over 70k/year.
Good call.

I love lecturing and teaching, so I absolutely want to become a professor, however going (back) into network/sys admin stuff is my backup. I did that for three years and while I have no love for it, the constantly changing nature of the field does prevent it from getting stale.
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