How do you think the 370z is going to stack up vs. the new 1M coupe?

shadoquad · 12-11-2010, 06:43 AM

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Originally Posted by ProfessorDave

Hey! I like my Mazda3!

Look at those snowflake rims. Worth 15+ HP gain. 50+ if they are turbo rims.

At least your Mazda3 doesn't have the smiley-face grill.

like this big blue ball of fail.

I still like the car, but that grill is horrendous.

Jessobear · 12-11-2010, 08:40 AM

I've always like the 135i, but I think I'm in the minority. Many of my friends are big into BMW and they all universally HATE the 1-series. One of my friends refers to it as the BMW Shape Up, since the side skirt resembles those stupid shoes. They all universally rip on the suspension of the car, which is nowhere near a 3-series.

I'm a fan of the 335i as well, but it's just too pricey. One of my friends has a loaded '09 335i (M Sport Package, Premium Package, etc) with KW V3's and CSL knock-off wheels and it is really sweet. I went to BMW's website and priced up a comparable car. $51k. Wow.

Hopefully they don't ruin the look of the 135i with the M1 like they did with the M3. I really want to like the M3 but there is just way too much going on with the body. There's about ten vents in the rear bumper and the side mirrors are just awful. I don't buy an expensive BMW's to look like some ricer went wild with bodykits on it. When an AMG Benz looks subtle compared to your car, you're definitely on the wrong path.

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Originally Posted by ClemsonWill

I really like the performance aspect of the new 1m. I'm just not crazy about the looks epecially for the price. I'm guessing $50K with decent options. With the limited supply coming to the US you will probably pay near sticker.

Buy a fully loaded Z for less than $40k and spend the other $10-12K on FI.

This is not meant to call you dumb or anything, but you would never make this statement if you actually owned a car with an aftermarket turbo kit. There's always stuff coming loose, breaking, etc and the tuning is a total nightmare. The car rarely runs right. I know this because I used to own a car like this before selling it to get the Z.

Most people think you can drop a car off at a shop, pay them a few hundred dollars and a couple hours later have a tuned car. This could not be farther from the truth. This might be true on an N/A car where you're retaining the factory ECU and you're simply tweaking fuel and ignition slightly for peak power. With F/I, basically everything you have is out the window. Car manufacturers spend months perfecting the mapping on a dyno. With your own car, you end up with knock in odd places, rich and lean spots, etc.

With a factory car, you never have to worry about parts breaking or fasteners coming loose. Believe me, a factory turbocharged car is the way to go.

Off the soapbox now

Jessobear · 12-11-2010, 08:44 AM

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Originally Posted by Dwight Frye

That 1M is hideous ! It looks like somebody ordered a tack on body parts kit from ebay

Wow, I didn't even notice that before making my post. Yep, they made the same blunder as the M3. Seriously, this is the kind of crap I'd expect to see some 19-year-old kid have on a car at Hot Import Nights. Why the hell couldn't they just leave the car alone and put the performance parts in it? This is why it's so hard to make an argument for an M3. The 335i just looks so much better, and since it's turbocharged, you can make huge power out of a reflash.

Pharmacist · 12-11-2010, 10:26 AM

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Originally Posted by shadoquad

At least your Mazda3 doesn't have the smiley-face grill.

like this big blue ball of fail.

I still like the car, but that grill is horrendous.

that grill kinda reminds me of these:

Endgame · 12-11-2010, 06:40 PM

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Originally Posted by esfourteen

<-- wishes his Z would magically lose 300lbs without ripping out the interior.

I would like to know how cars like this weigh the same as the Z when we only have 2 seats and the Z is full of aluminum x,y,z...

no... this thing weighs at least 3396 and probably more on like 3415 like other numbers suggest. The Z with sport package is at 3250; check the Z vs Genesis vs Stang V6 test...

ProfessorDave · 12-11-2010, 08:24 PM

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Originally Posted by shadoquad

At least your Mazda3 doesn't have the smiley-face grill.

like this big blue ball of fail.

I still like the car, but that grill is horrendous.

Yeah, it's a lot to absorb. I think the taillights are even worse.

Sorry for the thread jack. Carry on with the Beemer-Bashing

sonic370 · 12-11-2010, 08:30 PM

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Originally Posted by jamaica951

buy a genesis? might as well buy a mustang will you at it.

Dwight Frye · 12-11-2010, 08:34 PM

Nah, I mean the new Mazda 3's that the front end looks like that stupid grin on the V for Vendetta mask.

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Originally Posted by ProfessorDave

Hey! I like my Mazda3!

Look at those snowflake rims. Worth 15+ HP gain. 50+ if they are turbo rims.

ProfessorDave · 12-11-2010, 08:38 PM

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Originally Posted by Dwight Frye

Nah, I mean the new Mazda 3's that the front end looks like that stupid grin on the V for Vendetta mask.

Crap! Now all I can think about is Natalie Portman!

sonic370 · 12-11-2010, 08:41 PM

IMHO your not comparing apples to apples. BMW vs Nissian theres a big price difference.. i'm just as guilty taking the 370 for granted thinking the grass is greener on the other side.. with the 370 nissian hit it out of the park.

most of the cars people talk about trading for don't look half as good imo.

ProfessorDave · 12-11-2010, 10:14 PM

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Originally Posted by sonic370

most of the cars people talk about trading for don't look half as good imo.

Zsteve · 12-11-2010, 11:45 PM

I like my new vette's look just as much as the Z but in a different way. They are two different looks in different appearance categories IMO.

Brazilbro · 12-12-2010, 12:28 AM

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Originally Posted by Jessobear

This is not meant to call you dumb or anything, but you would never make this statement if you actually owned a car with an aftermarket turbo kit. There's always stuff coming loose, breaking, etc and the tuning is a total nightmare. The car rarely runs right. I know this because I used to own a car like this before selling it to get the Z.

Most people think you can drop a car off at a shop, pay them a few hundred dollars and a couple hours later have a tuned car. This could not be farther from the truth. This might be true on an N/A car where you're retaining the factory ECU and you're simply tweaking fuel and ignition slightly for peak power. With F/I, basically everything you have is out the window. Car manufacturers spend months perfecting the mapping on a dyno. With your own car, you end up with knock in odd places, rich and lean spots, etc.

Not with the Z.. I droped mine of at a shop and got it back a tuned 450whp car. No problems at all.. I don't think anyone on this site with a TT kit has had 1 problem. Only thing I have to worry about it buying new rear tires and keeping the oil changed.

ProfessorDave · 12-12-2010, 08:59 AM

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Originally Posted by Zsteve

I like my new vette's look just as much as the Z but in a different way. They are two different looks in different appearance categories IMO.

I think the Vette is a pretty car, Steve. I don't see too many in silver...looks good!

I'm probably going to get flamed for this, but I think the Z is much better looking than the Cayman.

Zsteve · 12-12-2010, 10:42 AM

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Originally Posted by ProfessorDave

I think the Vette is a pretty car, Steve. I don't see too many in silver...looks good!

I'm probably going to get flamed for this, but I think the Z is much better looking than the Cayman.

I love the Z shape, the Z body was the best looking body Ive had. It was just other little things about the car that got me to trade it in.

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sonic370 A True Z Fanatic Join Date: May 2010 Location: Orange Texas Posts: 1,574 Drives: 09 370Z Sports PGK Rep Power: 18	IMHO your not comparing apples to apples. BMW vs Nissian theres a big price difference.. i'm just as guilty taking the 370 for granted thinking the grass is greener on the other side.. with the 370 nissian hit it out of the park. most of the cars people talk about trading for don't look half as good imo.