Gas pedal piviot issues.

zero · 12-09-2010, 09:05 PM

What is the real issue?

sonic370 · 12-09-2010, 09:08 PM

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Originally Posted by Guard Dad

Could be just me, but I find a top pivot pedal easier to modulate because the arc-of-travel of a top pivot gas pedal more closely matches the arc-of-travel of the brake pedal (and clutch pedal if you got one of those). I find it distracting to have to constantly adjust to the two different pedal movements, something I never seemed to have to do on top pivot gas pedals.

ChrisSlicks · 12-09-2010, 09:50 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by zero

What is the real issue?

There is no issue, just personal preference. I like it the way it is.

chops · 12-09-2010, 10:15 PM

i for one enjoy the floor mounted accelerator

optiontrader · 12-11-2010, 02:11 AM

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Originally Posted by butdamnbrian

hm... do 911 gas pedals still hinge on the bottom like the z's? i know they do in older 911 models..

The Cayman I test drove had the same floor mounted gas pedal - I'd imagine most, if not all Porsche's do...

I for one like it; it makes heel/toe shifting easier - I don't have to twist my leg as much. Mebbe I'm cheating?

Chan Chee Hoe · 12-11-2010, 02:31 AM

Most German cars from the 70's[except Opel] is using this type of pedal.....but some Japanese model is following it,maybe for more comfort.?

AlienPrime · 10-22-2013, 01:38 PM

hate to revive an old thread, but i too do agree! Don't like it at all. Dont get the same feeling when downshifting and heal toeing :/

Tazicon · 10-22-2013, 01:48 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Guard Dad

Could be just me, but I find a top pivot pedal easier to modulate because the arc-of-travel of a top pivot gas pedal more closely matches the arc-of-travel of the brake pedal (and clutch pedal if you got one of those). I find it distracting to have to constantly adjust to the two different pedal movements, something I never seemed to have to do on top pivot gas pedals.

Wow never even noticed. Probably now that you bring it up it will drive me crazy just like the stickers on my sunvisors that never bothered me till someone brought it up.

Oh and yes my Cayman has it and maybe thats why I don't notice it in either car.

Arrvaxx · 10-22-2013, 01:56 PM

Isn't heel-toe kind of redundant with sync-rev?

kenchan · 10-22-2013, 02:11 PM

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Originally Posted by Arrvaxx

Isn't heel-toe kind of redundant with sync-rev?

it is. he must have the non-sport package trim.

i use the side of my foot to blip throttle on organ pedals. i learned that over 10yrs ago when i had my MINI cause that was my first car with the floor pivoting gas pedal.

just takes practice.

hell, even on traditional pedal setups i use the side of my foot since i dont need the full braking power on street.

Arrvaxx · 10-22-2013, 02:17 PM

Oh...my bad, duh.

4r3s · 10-22-2013, 03:18 PM

I wonder what the reasoning behind where they put the pivot point is. I was doing a little bit of googling and didn't find much but it does appear that fly by wire accelerators tend to typically have the pivot point at the bottom because that is where the electronics are that send the engine the data. I don't see why that couldn't be moved in a design but it also appears that higher end car manufacturers are trending to the pivot point at the bottom as well. There must be some reason this performs better otherwise why would they go there?

4r3s · 10-22-2013, 03:21 PM

and now I find one that has the electronics at the top
Lokar: Drive-By-Wire Electronic Throttle Control Pedal Assembly

4r3s · 10-22-2013, 03:29 PM

Ah right. I forgot about recent history with Toyota and stuck gas pedals. Move the pivot point to the bottom and you shouldn't be able to have a floor mat cause any stuck pedals.

I was hoping for a more fun reason than lawyers.

Haboob · 10-22-2013, 04:04 PM

Feels better than the other kinds, IMO.

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4r3s A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: MD Posts: 2,077 Drives: Touring 370z Rep Power: 24	Ah right. I forgot about recent history with Toyota and stuck gas pedals. Move the pivot point to the bottom and you shouldn't be able to have a floor mat cause any stuck pedals. I was hoping for a more fun reason than lawyers. Last edited by 4r3s; 10-22-2013 at 03:31 PM.

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AlienPrime Base Member Join Date: Aug 2013 Location: Sudbury Posts: 1 Drives: 2012 Z34 Rep Power: 12	hate to revive an old thread, but i too do agree! Don't like it at all. Dont get the same feeling when downshifting and heal toeing :/

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4r3s A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: MD Posts: 2,077 Drives: Touring 370z Rep Power: 24	I wonder what the reasoning behind where they put the pivot point is. I was doing a little bit of googling and didn't find much but it does appear that fly by wire accelerators tend to typically have the pivot point at the bottom because that is where the electronics are that send the engine the data. I don't see why that couldn't be moved in a design but it also appears that higher end car manufacturers are trending to the pivot point at the bottom as well. There must be some reason this performs better otherwise why would they go there?

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4r3s A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: MD Posts: 2,077 Drives: Touring 370z Rep Power: 24	and now I find one that has the electronics at the top Lokar: Drive-By-Wire Electronic Throttle Control Pedal Assembly

10-22-2013, 04:04 PM	#30 (permalink)
Haboob A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Aug 2012 Location: Surface of the sun. Posts: 13,159 Drives: '18 GTI Autobahn DSG Rep Power: 1387	Feels better than the other kinds, IMO.