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Upgrading from a 370 to a Lexus IS-F

Originally Posted by speed_BMW330i Dang! It would have been cool to get a comparison from someone coming from a 370Z. I've looked at few ISF's and they have the HP

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Old 12-08-2010, 11:39 PM   #1 (permalink)
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Dang!

It would have been cool to get a comparison from someone coming from a 370Z. I've looked at few ISF's and they have the HP and the reliability. Not too keen on the slushbox tranny, although in my case its not a big deal as I'm still learning how to drive a stick.

Looks wise, the ISF looks great in black with silver rims. The other colors aren't as hot.

To be truthful, a 2008 M3 is probably a better direction, but even a 2008 M3 with 15 to 20K miles is going for around $45K to $50K, which in my opinion, is a lot for $$$ for a three or four year old car.

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Brand new that car was probably 75K though. M3's stripped are not too bad, but you put even decent options in a BMW and you can add 20K to a price-tag FAST. I "built one" on BMW's website and about gagged.
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Great upgrade you should definetly get that if you can.
Though I'd get a M3 if I were upgrading next.
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Congrats on the decision I think you made the right one
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Congrats on the decision I think you made the right one
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yep, i think you've made a good decision. while IS-F is a very nice car, to me, it's too different than the 370z. it is more like the sort of car that people would trade their bmw 3 series or mercedes C class for.
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In a few years I will be looking at a used IS-F, Jags and M3s. No more brand new cars for me.
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In a few years I will be looking at a used IS-F, Jags and M3s. No more brand new cars for me.
However the maintenance on those luxury cars is expensive. Not to many tech outside the dealer except for the M3 to work on them.

Even that I would love an used IS-F.
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However the maintenance on those luxury cars is expensive. Not to many tech outside the dealer except for the M3 to work on them.

Even that I would love an used IS-F.
Yes, unless you have a good local mechanic that only charges about 50% of the dealers do.
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Yes, unless you have a good local mechanic that only charges about 50% of the dealers do.
You are totally right, but hard to come by!!!
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You are totally right, but hard to come by!!!
I was lucky to find one with his own small shop. An ASE master mechanic with good parts hookups, he give me his cost on parts. The Jag is going in tomorrow for some work.

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However the maintenance on those luxury cars is expensive. Not to many tech outside the dealer except for the M3 to work on them.

Even that I would love an used IS-F.
In my case, I would get the service manual and do almost all the work on my cars myself. Good mechanics are hard to find. My stories at my Nissan dealer are out of this world, sometimes it seems that they NEVER had worked on a 370 before.
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In my case, I would get the service manual and do almost all the work on my cars myself. Good mechanics are hard to find. My stories at my Nissan dealer are out of this world, sometimes it seems that they NEVER had worked on a 370 before.
The question here is...is it really cost-effective?

I worked on my own cars all through highschool and college, except for jobs I didn't have tools for (clutch-swap on my WS6, re-building the rear-end, etc.) because I had no real source of meaningful income.

Now the question is: Would I rather go in to work for a few hours and cover the labor, or would I rather spend a few hours doing the labor myself? When I work on it, it has no warranty. When they do, it's their baby, not mine. It breaks, not my problem.

For me, having the dealership work on the car is annoying, as I know they are ripping me off for some things, but on another point, it's "guaranteed". Basically, I am betting that it will break again, they are betting it won't, and I don't want to cut my hands up or smash a finger or worse out in the cold working on my own car beyond minor maintenance items like AC filters, oil, plugs/wires, etc.

When it came to doing the motor-mounts, changing the thermostat (A PITA on a G20, apparently), etc. I just made it their issue and not mine.

I cannot imagine an E92 M3 or IS-F being very fun to work on, or very practical without specialized tools.
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I cannot imagine an E92 M3 or IS-F being very fun to work on, or very practical without specialized tools.
It's really not. I owned a Mini Cooper S for a short while and they apparently use the same windows as the 3-series. Long story short I essentially had to replace the entire driver's side window mechanics (window motor, regulator). Even that job had a freaking special tool associated with it and what I got quoted for it was OUTRAGEOUS. It was a lot cheaper doing the work myself and went fairly smooth. Probably won't ever buy a BMW again without some sort of warranty.
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In my case, I would get the service manual and do almost all the work on my cars myself. Good mechanics are hard to find. My stories at my Nissan dealer are out of this world, sometimes it seems that they NEVER had worked on a 370 before.
Well in PR I can understand, not to many 350Zs or 370s!
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