Posters selling their Z for a GT

m4a1mustang · 12-07-2010, 10:32 AM

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Originally Posted by GZ3

his highest trap is 113

Yep, it usually works that way. Your lower traps will be on your lower ET runs. Higher traps will be on the higher ET runs relative to the performance of the car, of course.

Jeffblue · 12-07-2010, 10:36 AM

so those times are with the Z getting a good launch?

m4a1mustang · 12-07-2010, 10:39 AM

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Originally Posted by Jeffblue

so those times are with the Z getting a good launch?

Yep, J is getting a 1.8 60' which is very impressive on a street tire (RE-11) and his 1/8 is very quick. That run is basically all launch and really quick shifting to finish it off down the track.

GZ3 · 12-07-2010, 10:40 AM

pretty dam good launch, yes...i went to the mustang sites and geez allot of those guys are cutting 1.6 60' or better...dear god....i also wonder if the Z's rear can handle it... i mean our cars where built for track, 5.0 was designed by a panel of mustang enthusiasts geared fro drag...

Jeffblue · 12-07-2010, 10:41 AM

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Originally Posted by m4a1mustang

Yep, J is getting a 1.8 60' which is very impressive on a street tire (RE-11) and his 1/8 is very quick. That run is basically all launch and really quick shifting to finish it off down the track.

yea thats my point, people are talking about improving 1/4 time through the launch, and he's already pretty much doing it really well. i can't see him getting a better launch without shredding his axle or w/e. and even if he did, we are talking about a few 1-2 tenths, not like a second. so i dont know where people are gonna get off saying that are car is gonna touch the 5.0 on the strip

m4a1mustang · 12-07-2010, 10:45 AM

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Originally Posted by GZ3

pretty dam good launch, yes...i went to the mustang sites and geez allot of those guys are cutting 1.6 60' or better...dear god....i also wonder if the Z's rear can handle it... i mean our cars where built for track, 5.0 was designed by a panel of mustang enthusiasts geared fro drag...

Well, it was actualy built for both drag and track, but yes, the rear end in the Mustang is VERY tough. Those 1.6' 60s are probably with ET Streets.

So far the fastest stock Mustang is somewhere in the 12.4x @ 112+ mph zone. With an intake and canned tune they are playing in the 11s with a street tire and a solid launch. Emphasis on solid launch. As with all high-hp cars (Z included) it's all in the launch. If you can't get traction, or if you just suck, you're not going to be running those headline times.

m4a1mustang · 12-07-2010, 10:46 AM

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Originally Posted by Jeffblue

yea thats my point, people are talking about improving 1/4 time through the launch, and he's already pretty much doing it really well. i can't see him getting a better launch without shredding his axle or w/e. and even if he did, we are talking about a few 1-2 tenths, not like a second. so i dont know where people are gonna get off saying that are car is gonna touch the 5.0 on the strip

Well, mod-for-mod, it will never touch a 5.0 on the strip. But I think IF the drivetrain can handle a launch of MT ET Streets, he could shave 3 tenths if he can cut a 1.6x 60'.

wolf370z · 12-07-2010, 02:57 PM

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Originally Posted by m4a1mustang

And there's where I disagree. You can't compare the two trim levels because you get so much more out of the premium Mustang than you would the base Z. Leather, heated seats, bluetooth, premium sound, Sync, etc.

You can get the Mustang equivalent of a "Touring" 370Z starting around 30k invoice.

I think the car is priced pretty competitively. Compared to my 370Z, I paid about $2k less and get a lot more in terms of options and creature comforts. It's gobs cheaper than the Challenger and Camaro which is what really matters, and it compares nicely price-wise to cars outside of it's class. All I know is you know Ford has done something right when the people buying the car are coming from every direction... from Camaros to 370Zs to BMW M's... It's a good car.

Nissan did the same thing with the Z. How many former BMW and Porsche owners do we have here? That says a lot for the car, IMO.

I just wanted to note I wasn't talking about the available options when comparing the two trim levels. I was merely commenting on how nice the interior looked/felt, not that the base 370z had X option over another. Sorry for the confusion!!

Well I'm glad to hear that you got such a great deal on your 5.0!

In terms of 5.0 vs 370z... just give it up guys. I cannot imagine a 12.4x run trapping ~112 in a stock 5.0 will be repeated too many times (mainly because no one ever keeps mustang's stock lol) but still proves that a full bolt-on, geared, street-tired 370z is a tenth of a second ahead. All you need like m4a1 so smartly put was that with an intake and tune the 5.0 makes significant improvement.

And I cannot lie, a $32k car with supercar-like acceleration is a force to be reckoned with.... even more so once you start thinking about that dealer installed supercharger option /drool

m4a1mustang · 12-07-2010, 03:04 PM

Seriously, it's best to just give up the discussions. These things go on forever and we never get anywhere.

Well, at least there are some level-headed folk among us. Wolf

Endgame · 12-07-2010, 03:13 PM

Indeed. I think it all comes down to what floats your boat. Some love their Z's, some love their Stangs. Some like Oreo Cookie Blizzards.

I would like to see how many of the new 5.0's running on the streets can take on my old (now my dad's) 575HP 610 Pound Feet to the ground 02 GT! That baby is a beast....

GZ3 · 12-07-2010, 05:38 PM

alright alright alright so in conclusion 370Z > 5.0 lol ahh good times

kenchan · 12-07-2010, 05:42 PM

mustang- that's one clever sig you got there. lol!!

this...

i lol'ed.

IDZRVIT · 12-07-2010, 05:51 PM

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Originally Posted by kenchan

mustang- that's one clever sig you got there. lol!!

this...

i lol'ed.

Indeed!!!

wolf370z · 12-07-2010, 11:15 PM

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Originally Posted by GZ3

alright alright alright so in conclusion 370Z > 5.0 lol ahh good times

*Checks website URL*

jeffreyfranz · 12-08-2010, 02:13 AM

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Originally Posted by theDreamer

For you it 'felt' faster, but under what conditions?
-Did you drive them back to back?
-Faster from 0mph, 20mph, other?
-Did you put your foot to the floor on both?

The Z and the Mustang are both quick cars, as to why some are switching is more multiple reasons. Some want to get away from the VQ engine, others are big fans of a Mustang but the 4.6L was 'meh' to them, and some just like to change vehicles.

Definitely growing tired of this engine, but if I were going to make a move it would be one of two ways:

Up to a Cayman S, or older M3 or 911,

or

Down to a more agile, supple, cheaper to modify and track car, like the MX-5 Miata.

But a Mustang? Completely different car, to me.

12-07-2010, 10:40 AM	#184 (permalink)
GZ3 A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: SATX Posts: 3,296 Drives: Z Rep Power: 21	pretty dam good launch, yes...i went to the mustang sites and geez allot of those guys are cutting 1.6 60' or better...dear god....i also wonder if the Z's rear can handle it... i mean our cars where built for track, 5.0 was designed by a panel of mustang enthusiasts geared fro drag... __________________ 09 GT-R 12' 370Z 7AT HANDED DOWN 12'+13' 5.0 SOLD

12-07-2010, 03:04 PM	#189 (permalink)
m4a1mustang A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: Northern VA Posts: 55,385 Drives: on two wheels Rep Power: 6962	Seriously, it's best to just give up the discussions. These things go on forever and we never get anywhere. Well, at least there are some level-headed folk among us. Wolf __________________ - Steve Zs & Coffee - Saturdays at 10AM in Fairfax, VA and Columbia, MD (Click the banner!) LIKE us on Facebook!

12-07-2010, 05:38 PM	#191 (permalink)
GZ3 A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: SATX Posts: 3,296 Drives: Z Rep Power: 21	alright alright alright so in conclusion 370Z > 5.0 lol ahh good times __________________ 09 GT-R 12' 370Z 7AT HANDED DOWN 12'+13' 5.0 SOLD

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12-07-2010, 10:36 AM	#182 (permalink)
Jeffblue A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: NY Age: 36 Posts: 9,192 Drives: Z32TT & 335xi Coupe Rep Power: 37	so those times are with the Z getting a good launch?

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Endgame A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Nov 2008 Location: Phoenix Posts: 1,613 Drives: Nothing Now! Rep Power: 224	Indeed. I think it all comes down to what floats your boat. Some love their Z's, some love their Stangs. Some like Oreo Cookie Blizzards. I would like to see how many of the new 5.0's running on the streets can take on my old (now my dad's) 575HP 610 Pound Feet to the ground 02 GT! That baby is a beast....

12-07-2010, 05:42 PM	#192 (permalink)
kenchan A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Aug 2009 Location: N/A Posts: 76,801 Drives: N/A Rep Power: 141521	mustang- that's one clever sig you got there. lol!! this... i lol'ed.