Posters selling their Z for a GT

Dreezy562 · 12-06-2010, 11:07 PM

i think they are ugly too. looks just like the v6 plus 2 lights and a badge. nothing really special about it.. its like. oh look another mustang.. but! to each their own.

ImportConvert · 12-07-2010, 01:40 AM

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Originally Posted by GZ3

Red, i really believe the 370Z will see high 11's with stickies and boltons...its coming...

Does your definition of bolt-ons include some high-rpm engine internals or nitrous or something? If not, then no. Not happening. Full bolt-on Z's seem to be running high 12's on a tire.

You can only get just so much from a 3.7L V6 at a certain RPM with a certain amount of head-flow.

christian370z · 12-07-2010, 02:00 AM

Aren't the heads on the VQ37 pretty good to begin with?

m4a1mustang · 12-07-2010, 09:04 AM

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Originally Posted by Nismoracer

(There are Hidden Secrets in this car)

Please tell us the hidden secrets.

So far all the NISMO has proven to us is that it's a 370Z Base + Sport with body kit and marginally better suspension.

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Originally Posted by Red370

I dont think that will ever happen to be honest. Loved my Z, but 11's w/ slicks and full bolt-ons wont happen. 11's for TT'ed Z's is a stretch.

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Originally Posted by GZ3

how can you say that when theres a 12.3 out there with bolt ons and street tires? just asking on your logic here

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Originally Posted by ImportConvert

Does your definition of bolt-ons include some high-rpm engine internals or nitrous or something? If not, then no. Not happening. Full bolt-on Z's seem to be running high 12's on a tire.

You can only get just so much from a 3.7L V6 at a certain RPM with a certain amount of head-flow.

Jnaut has run a 12.30 on an RE-11 tire. He has LTHs, CBE, Stillen G3 (I think), clutch, flywheel, 4.08 gear, probably a pulley and maybe a couple of other things that, IMO, qualify as "bolt-on." That's with a 1.8s 60'.

IF he can run a MT ET Street without shattering the rear end, snapping an axle, or delaminating the driveshaft, I think he could dip into the high 11s on a 1.6x 60'.

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Originally Posted by christian370z

Aren't the heads on the VQ37 pretty good to begin with?

I'd say the heads are pretty well optimized but we'll never know for sure until someone cracks VVEL.

Jeffblue · 12-07-2010, 09:14 AM

if modded Z's start beating modded 5.0's on the drag strip, ford is doing something wrong.

m4a1mustang · 12-07-2010, 09:15 AM

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Originally Posted by wolf370z

Yes, base vs base the 370z would have to win hands down in terms of fit, finish, quality, feel (interior), etc. However, I think a premium Mustang GT is a good comparison vs the base 370z but at that point you're looking at a $34k mustang vs a $28k 370z. I just cannot justify the price difference, which is pretty upsetting.

And there's where I disagree. You can't compare the two trim levels because you get so much more out of the premium Mustang than you would the base Z. Leather, heated seats, bluetooth, premium sound, Sync, etc.

You can get the Mustang equivalent of a "Touring" 370Z starting around 30k invoice.

I think the car is priced pretty competitively. Compared to my 370Z, I paid about $2k less and get a lot more in terms of options and creature comforts. It's gobs cheaper than the Challenger and Camaro which is what really matters, and it compares nicely price-wise to cars outside of it's class. All I know is you know Ford has done something right when the people buying the car are coming from every direction... from Camaros to 370Zs to BMW M's... It's a good car.

Nissan did the same thing with the Z. How many former BMW and Porsche owners do we have here? That says a lot for the car, IMO.

GZ3 · 12-07-2010, 10:23 AM

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Originally Posted by ImportConvert

Does your definition of bolt-ons include some high-rpm engine internals or nitrous or something? If not, then no. Not happening. Full bolt-on Z's seem to be running high 12's on a tire.

You can only get just so much from a 3.7L V6 at a certain RPM with a certain amount of head-flow.

the head flow comment i agree with, but i hear our heads are pretty good to begin with....

and yes with no internals or nitrous...just full bolts+ gears and slicksi think the 370Z will see a very high 11. i mean theres already a 12.3 on streets...

GZ3 · 12-07-2010, 10:24 AM

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Originally Posted by m4a1mustang

And there's where I disagree. You can't compare the two trim levels because you get so much more out of the premium Mustang than you would the base Z. Leather, heated seats, bluetooth, premium sound, Sync, etc.

You can get the Mustang equivalent of a "Touring" 370Z starting around 30k invoice.

I think the car is priced pretty competitively. Compared to my 370Z, I paid about $2k less and get a lot more in terms of options and creature comforts. It's gobs cheaper than the Challenger and Camaro which is what really matters, and it compares nicely price-wise to cars outside of it's class. All I know is you know Ford has done something right when the people buying the car are coming from every direction... from Camaros to 370Zs to BMW M's... It's a good car.

Nissan did the same thing with the Z. How many former BMW and Porsche owners do we have here? That says a lot for the car, IMO.

i agree with this fully!

m4a1mustang · 12-07-2010, 10:25 AM

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Originally Posted by GZ3

the head flow comment i agree with, but i hear our heads are pretty good to begin with....

and yes with no internals or nitrous...just full bolts+ gears and slicksi think the 370Z will see a very high 11. i mean theres already a 12.3 on streets...

The problem is the 12.3 is already on FULL bolt ons and in ideal conditions with a great launch. So that extra 3 tenths has to come from the launch. I have a feeling the weakest link in the drivetrain will be found while attempting to go for that 11.90. It is going to have to be done with ET streets on the back and some skinnies up front.

Now, if the rear end can take that kind of abuse, we're in business.

Though Jnaut is working on his rear-mounted turbo setup so I bet when he hits the 11s it's going to be with the turbo.

GZ3 · 12-07-2010, 10:26 AM

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Originally Posted by Jeffblue

if modded Z's start beating modded 5.0's on the drag strip, ford is doing something wrong.

maybe modded vs stock 5.0...but after mod vs mod the no way. The 5.0 is a fawking caged beast...

Jeffblue · 12-07-2010, 10:28 AM

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Originally Posted by m4a1mustang

The problem is the 12.3 is already on FULL bolt ons and in ideal conditions with a great launch. So that extra 3 tenths has to come from the launch. I have a feeling the weakest link in the drivetrain will be found while attempting to go for that 11.90. It is going to have to be done with ET streets on the back and some skinnies up front.

Now, if the rear end can take that kind of abuse, we're in business.

Though Jnaut is working on his rear-mounted turbo setup so I bet when he hits the 11s it's going to be with the turbo.

what is the trap speed on that 12.3 run?

GZ3 · 12-07-2010, 10:29 AM

111mph which is indicative of an 11sec pass

m4a1mustang · 12-07-2010, 10:29 AM

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Originally Posted by Jeffblue

what is the trap speed on that 12.3 run?

111.69. That really shows you he's making all his time on the short-end of the track.

GZ3 · 12-07-2010, 10:30 AM

his highest trap is 113

m4a1mustang · 12-07-2010, 10:31 AM

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Originally Posted by GZ3

111mph which is indicative of an 11sec pass

But only just. With a 1.6 60' you might be able to run an 11.9x with a 111 trap.

12-07-2010, 02:00 AM	#168 (permalink)
christian370z A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Jul 2010 Location: Newport Beach Posts: 3,900 Drives: 2010 370Z/Saab 900se Rep Power: 432	Aren't the heads on the VQ37 pretty good to begin with? __________________ -320whp / 259wftlbs- SP Rays -- RE-11s -- SpecialtyZ Tune -- Swift Springs -- Stillen 25R Oil Cooler -- Stillen G3 Intakes -- Berk HFCs -- F.I. 12" CBE -- Stillen Sway Bars -- Es14 Spring -- INGS+1 lip -- CF Spoiler -- GTR Start Button -- VLED Parking Lights -- PWJDM V2 shift knob

12-07-2010, 10:29 AM	#177 (permalink)
GZ3 A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: SATX Posts: 3,296 Drives: Z Rep Power: 21	111mph which is indicative of an 11sec pass __________________ 09 GT-R 12' 370Z 7AT HANDED DOWN 12'+13' 5.0 SOLD

12-07-2010, 10:30 AM	#179 (permalink)
GZ3 A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: SATX Posts: 3,296 Drives: Z Rep Power: 21	his highest trap is 113 __________________ 09 GT-R 12' 370Z 7AT HANDED DOWN 12'+13' 5.0 SOLD

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Dreezy562 Enthusiast Member Join Date: Oct 2010 Location: Long beach, ca Posts: 419 Drives: 40th Rep Power: 15	i think they are ugly too. looks just like the v6 plus 2 lights and a badge. nothing really special about it.. its like. oh look another mustang.. but! to each their own.

12-07-2010, 09:14 AM	#170 (permalink)
Jeffblue A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: NY Age: 36 Posts: 9,192 Drives: Z32TT & 335xi Coupe Rep Power: 37	if modded Z's start beating modded 5.0's on the drag strip, ford is doing something wrong.