Posters selling their Z for a GT

LuckyJinx · 12-04-2010, 09:19 PM

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Originally Posted by m4a1mustang

You have any pics of the GTM setup?

Yep have to get them when I get home. I think I have a video of a friend of mine,Sarah, trying to drive it.

The BlueMax · 12-04-2010, 09:50 PM

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Originally Posted by '10Anamoly

I drove the 5.0, and yes it has some really good kick from 3500rpms to redline but you prob want the 3.73+ gears because it sure isnt anything like a 6.3L LS3 motor down low. That and the interior is typical Ford blandness, BOOORING and uninspired. The loaded ones are a great deal, no doubt, but I love my Z. Two seater, FR layout, awesome interior, excellent handling, reliability, near top of the line V6 in power, enough potential for upgrades, and its looks simply smash the 5.0, its a clear winner for me.

Add the fact that you can get them up to around 360-370hp at the crank with full exhaust/intake and tune and you're not that terribly far off from the 5.0. Yes it will win and it kicks harder down low, but its not going to be smoking you like a new vette would at that point. I'd probably take my $35k and buy a C5 Z06 in mint shape with low miles if I wanted max power for the money. It will handle the 5.0 just fine and then some.

I only had to be in that car for about 2 sec before I was done. When I left, I felt like I was back in a Ferrari sitting in the 370Z interior after the 5.0.

Cant argue though, feeling faster or not the 5.0 will out run you unless you have FI. It all comes down to what you want. Miata's feel amazing until you see the speedometer slowly crossing 50mph after about 6-7 sec.

I have to agree with 10Anomoly I really miss that low end torque and V8 sound. I think the evolution will follow with a redesinged G37 hybrid that will put out around 400HP but there will be compromises in weight, price, and useful operating time. Hyundai refuses to slow down and wants to offer the Genisis Coup with a V8, which would give you that magical marriage of an asian sports car with advanced V8. I'm starting to listen to Nissan Titan Pickup V8s, [Invinity M56s are rare]. I hope they don't offer a hybrid 370z, the
5.6L V8 would be my first choice followed by some sort of detuned Skyline motor. A Ford GT 5.0 would have to be concerned with a V8 Genesis Coup on the road.

m4a1mustang · 12-04-2010, 09:57 PM

Well I say keep it coming. It's only a matter of time before Gubment comes in and shuts down the horsepower war.

Jessobear · 12-05-2010, 01:54 AM

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Originally Posted by FL 4Motion

yeah, you know, b/c of the turbo, 4 doors, awd, based off of a boring compact commuter car...ohh, wait

The problem with the Evo and Mustang is that they put the entire budget into the engine and drivetrain. Then they had to come up with the rest of the car for pennies. The Evo in particular never lets you forget that you're driving a car that's based on pretty much the worst car Mitsubishi makes. Similarly with the Mustang, I feel like there's a lot of obvious cost cutting to be able to give you what you get performance wise for what you pay.

To some people, that's fine. But to me, driving a cheap car, regardless of how it performs, just detracts from the overall experience. I think realistically I'm just way to old for either one of those cars.

Educ8r · 12-05-2010, 09:37 AM

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Originally Posted by Jessobear

driving a cheap car, regardless of how it performs, just detracts from the overall experience.

The American mentality.

m4a1mustang · 12-05-2010, 11:30 AM

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Originally Posted by Jessobear

The problem with the Evo and Mustang is that they put the entire budget into the engine and drivetrain. Then they had to come up with the rest of the car for pennies. The Evo in particular never lets you forget that you're driving a car that's based on pretty much the worst car Mitsubishi makes. Similarly with the Mustang, I feel like there's a lot of obvious cost cutting to be able to give you what you get performance wise for what you pay.

To some people, that's fine. But to me, driving a cheap car, regardless of how it performs, just detracts from the overall experience. I think realistically I'm just way to old for either one of those cars.

If you were talking about older Mustangs I would agree with you, but nothing about these new ones is cheap. Its every bit as good, if not better in some areas, as my Z was.

Unfortunately your view is a widely held stigma, which, while no longer true with this generation, is going to take some time for the Mustang to break.

Trust me, if Ford was still putting out Mustangs like the 2003 I had I never would have even bothered looking at the car.

FL 4Motion · 12-05-2010, 06:47 PM

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Originally Posted by Jessobear

The problem with the Evo and Mustang is that they put the entire budget into the engine and drivetrain. Then they had to come up with the rest of the car for pennies. The Evo in particular never lets you forget that you're driving a car that's based on pretty much the worst car Mitsubishi makes. Similarly with the Mustang, I feel like there's a lot of obvious cost cutting to be able to give you what you get performance wise for what you pay.

To some people, that's fine. But to me, driving a cheap car, regardless of how it performs, just detracts from the overall experience. I think realistically I'm just way to old for either one of those cars.

/\ Gotcha. Can't argue too much with that mentality, to a certain extent I feel the same way (esp regarding the Evo, although the X has improved the interior compared to previous generations).

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Originally Posted by m4a1mustang

If you were talking about older Mustangs I would agree with you, but nothing about these new ones is cheap. Its every bit as good, if not better in some areas, as my Z was.

Unfortunately your view is a widely held stigma, which, while no longer true with this generation, is going to take some time for the Mustang to break.

Trust me, if Ford was still putting out Mustangs like the 2003 I had I never would have even bothered looking at the car.

/\ Agreed. The newest generation mustang is leaps and bounds ahead of the previous ones in fit and finish, they really turned out a nice car this time. I still think the interior is kinda bland. It just doesn't really feel sporty to me compared to the 370z, but materials wise, it's very good and worlds away from the 2003 era stangs and still better than the last gen too.

You know what turns me off the most about the stang? That dammed radio antenna. Why in 2010 are any cars still coming with one?? It really cheapens the look of the car imo. (ok, rant over now

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Educ8r · 12-05-2010, 07:32 PM

We get it, we get it...the Mustang looks cheap. It's pretty cool that my "cheap" Mustang runs neck and neck with an "expensive" M3.

papashango · 12-05-2010, 08:29 PM

What do you guys think about the exterior of the 2011 mustang?

SmoothZ · 12-05-2010, 08:33 PM

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Originally Posted by ClemsonWill

Most made the move because they wanted the extra power and torque while still remaining in the same price range. For what it is the GT is a great buy.

That's what I heard. I have to admit, the new ones look pretty good and sound great. It's tempting.

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Originally Posted by MellowGuy91

I don't get why Nissan can't do the same if they want more sales?

That's like comparing apples to oranges.

Mag350Z · 12-05-2010, 10:05 PM

The Jan 2011 Car and Driver picked the Mustang GT as one of the 10 best cars of the year.
No 370Z..no Corvette for that matter either

SmoothZ · 12-05-2010, 10:13 PM

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Originally Posted by Mag350Z

The Jan 2011 Car and Driver picked the Mustang GT as one of the 10 best cars of the year.
No 370Z..no Corvette for that matter either

I wouldn't put too much weight on that. C&D whore out their opinions all the time. The new Mustang is a good car, so they're going to say what they can to make it even better to sell mags.

m4a1mustang · 12-05-2010, 10:15 PM

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Originally Posted by SmoothZ

I wouldn't put too much weight on that. C&D whore out their opinions all the time. The new Mustang is a good car, so they're going to say what they can to make it even better to sell mags.

That's all fine and dandy, but you know you'd be praising them if they chose a Z... just sayin'.

SmoothZ · 12-05-2010, 10:21 PM

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Originally Posted by m4a1mustang

That's all fine and dandy, but you know you'd be praising them if they chose a Z... just sayin'.

I wasn't being negative on the Mustang. Maybe I should have written it better, but we all know the mags will write up the major manufacturers to benefit the market, especially if it's a newly designed car. Again, nothing against the new GT. If you read some of my previous posts, I gave it praise.

m4a1mustang · 12-05-2010, 10:22 PM

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Originally Posted by SmoothZ

I wasn't being negative on the Mustang. Maybe I should have written it better, but we all know the mags will write up the major manufacturers to benefit the market, especially if it's a newly designed car. Again, nothing against the new GT. If you read some of my previous posts, I gave it praise.

I'm not saying you're knocking the Mustang, I'm just saying you know you'd be praising C&D if they called the Z one of their 10 best. Just exposing a double standard, is all. But it's a Z forum so it's not like that's bad or anything...

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12-05-2010, 07:32 PM	#128 (permalink)
Educ8r Enthusiast Member Join Date: Nov 2008 Location: Houston Posts: 397 Drives: a car Rep Power: 16	We get it, we get it...the Mustang looks cheap. It's pretty cool that my "cheap" Mustang runs neck and neck with an "expensive" M3. __________________ imagination + creativity = endless possibilities

12-05-2010, 10:05 PM	#131 (permalink)
Mag350Z Base Member Join Date: Nov 2009 Location: South Florida Posts: 95 Drives: 2011 GS Corvette Rep Power: 16	2011 Car and Driver 10 Best The Jan 2011 Car and Driver picked the Mustang GT as one of the 10 best cars of the year. No 370Z..no Corvette for that matter either

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